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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:32 PM
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Richard Perle : "It may take 200 years to find WMDs in Iraq"
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 01:33 PM by indictrichardperle
(speaking for America in Moscow) Perle stated " We are absolutely certain there are WMDs hidden in Iraq, we have no idea where to look for them, we never did have any idea where they were. It may take dozens of years to find them". Perle added, "with 30,000 armed supporters of Saddam in Iraq, our troops cant leave Iraq".

"There were many reasons to invade Iraq", "mass graves" were cited by Perle.



http://www.middle-east-online.com/english/?id=6490

(How is this LIAR speaking for my country in Russia ?)
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Jivenwail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:35 PM
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1. OMG!
They never had any idea where they were??????????? Is this asshole for real?????????? If it wasn't so ridiculously funny, I'd be crying. They just heap lie ontop of lie ontop of lie. When will it ever stop????

And none of these crooks speaks for me, I can assure you!
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:50 PM
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10. Then Powell was lying his ass off
He did say, didn't he, that we knew where this stuff was? I think Cheney and/or Rummy did too.

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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:37 PM
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2. More of shrub's faith-based foreign policy
"I strongly believe..."
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CarlBallard Donating Member (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:40 PM
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3. Right mass graves
Who could forget the famous line in the state of the union "The British have learned that Sadam tried to purchace mass graves in Africa" or on the eve of war when he told all those grave inspectors to get out of the country. I'm no security expert but I'm pretty sure mass graves in Iraq aren't a threat to us. I've never heard anyone afraid of mass graves being set off in the subway.

And if soemeon is already in a grave it's going to be pretty hard to save them. To my mind that's the difference between Iraq and say Liberia.
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Pallas180 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:43 PM
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5. what happened to Iraq can launch attack within 45 minutes?
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 01:45 PM by Pallas180
Pretty hard to do if they hid the WMD so deep
it would take 200 years to find them.

And making our kids run around in 115 degree heat
in hot chemical suits to gild the lily on they would
be attacked by chemical weapons as soon as they
approached Baghdad. Iraq never said that. Rumsfeld
did.

lying thieves. Cheney Halliburton Rumsfeld dipshit

PS - oh yeah. we should find out what corporte buddy of
theirs manufactures chemical suits. Bet he made a fortune
on that trick. Wonder if we could trace the kickbacks?
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:22 PM
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16. yeah, and what happened
to all the people who would embrace us and lead us to the weapons programs? you know, the 52 people on the deck of cards? the ones that we have what, 30 of in custody? surely ONE of them must know something.
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study_war_no_more Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:45 PM
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6. mass graves as a result of our betrayal of the kurds and shites in 91
and how about that US produced nerve gas saddam used while he and kissinger drank tea.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:41 PM
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25. Call me evil, callous, and cruel, but that's a great line.
"I've never heard anyone afraid of mass graves being set off in the subway." :evilgrin:

I'm sorry my mood is a little darker than usual today.
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edzontar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:42 PM
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4. Let's send the creep over there to find them, then...
God I hate this guy!!!!:puke: :puke:
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corgigrrl Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:48 PM
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7. Guess Richard and Rummy better compare notes!
Secretary Rumsfeld claimed on March 30th in reference to weapons of mass destruction, "We know where they are. They're in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south and north somewhat." (The Guardian, Whitaker, Brian and Rory McCarthy, 5/30/2003)
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sfecap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:49 PM
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8. No idea where to look for them?
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:02 PM by sfecap
"We know where they are. They are in the area around Tikrit and Baghdad."

Donald Rumsfeld March 30, 2003


Oh well, just another lie...

Did I mention that I hate these people?



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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:49 PM
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9. Perle is one of the most disgusting excuses for a
mouth breather that I have ever seen.

I wish to god/dess that the earth would swallow this piece of shit and vomit the slimy thing into a volcano.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 01:56 PM
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11. That’s How Long They Said It Would Take UN...
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:26 PM by jayfish
Inspectors to do the same. Remember? Because Iraq was the size of California and all. We needed to attack right then because we could not wait that long. What a crock of shit, and no-one will call them on this. I'll find the quote.

Jay


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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:06 PM
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12. after 50 years.....
the 'WMDs" should have degraded to something as dangerous as cole slaw, real FUCKIN "Imminent", this threat was, wasnt it ?

We have been snookered by some LYING con-artists, like Lard ass Perle. But the real victims are the Iraqi innocent civilians and our mis-used troops.

God damned sickening......:puke:

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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:30 PM
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19. Just half a decade
for nerve agents to degrade. The low grade quality of stuff produced by the Iraqis and found by weapons inspectors would degrade within weeks.

Blistering agents are more stable.

But I wonder how many decades it will take to clear Iraq from all the unexploded ordnance.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:19 PM
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15. And Here It Is.
From our good ole buddy Ari Slicer.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/20030127-8.html

-SNIP-
And let me address this issue about what has been found. The United Nations reported at the end of the 1990s that Iraq possessed 30,000 chemical warheads and chemical munitions. The inspectors, in the eight weeks that they have been in Iraq have found 16 chemical warheads. At the pace that Iraq is cooperating with the inspectors, it will take the inspectors another almost 300 years to find the remaining weapons the United Nations says Saddam Hussein possesses. And this is why the inspectors are doing their best job, but the more time they get, the more they're getting the runaround from Saddam Hussein.
-SNIP-

Jay
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xtreme_ Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:13 PM
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13. OK, way to change quotes there slick
Did anyone actually read the article he posted? If you had, you would realize that Perle's comment was not "It may take 200 years to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq", :

Asked by a reporter when he thought the evidence of those weapons may be found, Perle joked: "I hope this will take less than 200 years."

He was joking people, remember jokes? You can't take a joking comment and make it a factual statement on which you base your argument. Well, I suppose all of you can...

Perle also said:

"It would be irresponsible to leave while 30,000 of the most brutal supporters of Saddam are sabotaging the country," he said.

But of course we don't talk about that comment, oh no no no. And who cares that he didn't speak of exactly how the removal of such individuals could be acheived, what exactly was he supposed to say? Was he supposed to go into a week long dissertation of the processes the military uses to round these fellows up? If that's the case, I can sum the strategy up for you rather simply:

Look around, ask around. Follow up on any leads. If those leads turn out to be good leads, go in and get the people who are threats and either get them to surrender, or kill them where they stand. The end.
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indictrichardperle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:16 PM
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14. sorry Freeper
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:29 PM by indictrichardperle
the headline says 200 YEARS

He says in all SERIOUSNESS it could take DOZENS of years, he says we had NO IDEA where the WMDs are and NEVER DID.

LOL

(i recommend people click on the link and read that story,the headline reads "it may take 200 years, with a subtitle of "never knew where wmds were"......there is an Outstanding photo of Perle that captures his evil porker face, very well) :evilgrin:
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:22 PM
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17. You are missing the point!
I think it is pretty obvious that the reasons used to try to convince the American people to support this war, that is that there were Weapons of Mass Destruction that could be used against the US or other countries to cause massive death were overly inflated at best, and a pack of lies at worst.

Many of us didn't believe it at the time, and we have been shown to be correct. Many people bought the excuse that the administration was giving, and they now look like a bunch of FOOLS!
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:26 PM
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18. 'round people up?'
Our military is going to round up supporters of Saddam Hussein? I bet most Iraqis, at one point or another, swore and oath to protect Saddam. I also bet that most of the guerrilas attacking our forces are not, in fact, Saddam loyalists, per se, but more interested in driving a foriegn invader out of their country.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:30 PM
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20. Jokes?
Yeah, I remember jokes. I just don't apply them to the false reasons whey our govt. pushed for preemptive war. Forgive me for not finding the humor in this.
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xtreme_ Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:32 PM
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21. What happens if we do find them?
Silly question I know, but what happens when proof of WMD does surface. When the weapons *multiple* countries said were there are found. Do we start a new thread based on the "planted weapons" conspiracy theory? Maybe we should start one now so we can get warmed up! I think that's a good idea personally, someone start one up!

The only thing that will convince you all is going over there yourself, and finding them yourself. Sadly, if one of you did actually pull that off, the rest of you would just discredit that person...and he would immediately become a part of the conspiracy. Oh well, carry on...carry on.

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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:36 PM
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22. Here is a good link to get you started.
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:47 PM by lfairban
Pentagon Whistleblower Reveals CIA/ DoD Fiascos

In a world exclusive, Al Martin Raw.com has published a news story about a Department of Defense whistleblower who has revealed that a US covert operations team had planted “Weapons of Mass Destruction” (WMDs) in Iraq – then “lost” them when the team was killed by so-called “friendly fire.”


http://www.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=9474〈=en

If that doesn't work, paste this:

www.iraqwar.ru/iraq-read_article.php?articleId=9474 & lang=en
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xtreme_ Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:46 PM
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28. Links not working
Haven't seen that article and would actually like to read it, but I can't get the links to work. Keep getting SQL errors...have any other sites I can get to it on?
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5thGenDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:41 PM
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24. Make a long answer short for all us dummies then, Genius
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:42 PM by 5thGenDemocrat
Where are the WMD then?
John
If Hussein had them before we bum-rushed him what kept him from handing them off to the Fedeyeen or Al-Queda or any of the many other brown boogiemen out there? Aside from that, you're asking us to believe that Dopey's administration has told the truth at any time in the past two years (and change).
I'm no weapons expert. But I know bullshit when I hear it, and I know fascist enablers when I read them. Nice try, Ari -- but I ain't buying. And the day I believe Richard Perle is the day I believe pigs can fly.
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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:48 PM
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29. If WMD are not found, the US is proven guilty of a war of agression
Edited on Fri Jul-25-03 02:51 PM by ze_dscherman
We talk about the reason for a war of agression here - one of the gravest crimes to commit under any law. The Nazis were hanged in Nuremberg for this.

The war we are talking about has killed about 7.000 civilians, most of them probably children, and crippled many more still. Got that?

Now add an unknown number of ordinary soldiers (hey, the were forced to fight, remember) defending their country. Several thousand at least.

Finally add all those American and British soldiers that were killed or crippeled.

Add some billions of dollars and the Middle East in turmoil, some people royally pissed off and waiting to pay it back to any American they can grab hold of. Patient and dedicated people not afraid to die, if you know what I mean.

That's some of the cost of the war we are talking about. Got it?

Now lets look for the official reason this war was waged. And that was an imminent threat by weapons of mass destruction. Claimed by the U.S. government, the British and a few others. This was not believed by the majority of people elsewhere - several billion more of these exist who are not Americans, remember? They did not allow the U.S. to attack - that's what a Security Council is good for (short history lesson: when the U.S. still believed in democracy it founded the UN).

But the U.S. said it had to defend itself against a threat - remember, someone was talking about pre-emptive strike. So the reason given WAS weapons of mass destruction. Enough to threaten the U.S. in a way that gave reason to WAGE A WAR that killed thousands, destroyed a country and costs billions.

So please explain where the reason for war is now?
It's the duty of the U.S. to prove that an imminent threat of attack on it's territory existed.

Otherwise, it is guilty of MASS MURDER.


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DeathvadeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:41 PM
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23. We can go on for 200 years complaining......
Question is when are the American people going to do something about these clowns in office. We are like sedated Sheep. They should deserve to do anything they want, say what they want, attack who they want.. The American People just look the other way. Sorry but I'd say we are as much to blame as they are.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:42 PM
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26. They WANTED to create mass graves?
Maybe I read that wrong.
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Mokito Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:44 PM
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27. 200 years !!!???
And they gave the UN-inspectors what? two to three months before going in?

This is utter bullshit!
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lazarus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-25-03 02:53 PM
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30. old news
3 days old, not LBN.
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