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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:48 PM
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Multiple US officials: Sorority obsession seen in anthrax case
Source: AP via Raw Story

Monday August 4, 2008

The top suspect in the 2001 anthrax attacks was obsessed with a sorority that sat less than 100 yards away from a New Jersey mailbox where the toxin-laced letters were sent, authorities said Monday. Multiple U.S. officials told The Associated Press that former Army scientist Bruce Ivins was long obsessed with the sorority Kappa Kappa Gamma, going back as far as his own college days at the University of Cincinnati.

The officials all spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case publicly.

The bizarre link to the sorority may indirectly explain one of the biggest mysteries in the case: why the anthrax was mailed from Princeton, N.J., 195 miles from the Army biological weapons lab the anthrax is believed to have been smuggled out of.



Read more: http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Multiple_US_officials_Sorority_obsession_seen_0804.html



Curiouser and curioser every moment.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:50 PM
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1. And yet none was SENT to the sorority? Odd.
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 02:53 PM by aquart
Do you get the feeling they're throwing everything out there hoping it will stick or at least make the evidence so confusing we just give up and accept their verdict>

I still want to know who uses powdered anthrax and how Ivins (no relations to Molly, right?) could have made some without being noticed.
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:51 PM
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2. Officials: Suspect had books written by Hannity, Savage, and Coulter
oh wait wrong story... :sarcasm:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:53 PM
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3. What sorrority did Condi Rice belong to? n/t
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Sheltiemama Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 06:33 PM
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21. Condi was in Alpha Chi Omega.
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 06:35 PM by Sheltiemama
I'm not proud that I know this, but as a former sorority girl (Pi Beta Phi), I do.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:57 PM
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4. Actress Sophia Bush was in Kappa Kappa Gamma, but no relation to George W. Bush.
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 02:58 PM by IanDB1
So did Leslie Bush (Olympic gold medalist in diving) but no relation to George W.

Here is a list of other "Famous Kappas"


Jane Pauley - host of Today Show
Nancy Olson - actress, Disney's "Pollyanna"
Jann Carl - anchor of Entertainment Tonight
Jean Bartel - former Miss America
Kate Spade- designer
Helen Wagner Willey - actress, "As the World Turns"
Molly Stanton - actress, "Passions"
Nancy O'DELL - anchor of Access Hollywood
Mrs. Campbell (of Campbell's Soup) - ever wonder why there are fleur-de-lis on the can?
Jennie Ann Lindstrom - actress, daughter of Ingrid Bergman
Lou Henry Hoover - wife of President Hoover
Lucy Webb Hayes - wife of President Rutherford B.
Hayes Phyllis McGinley - recipient of Pulitzer Prize
Carey Boone Nelson - created sculpture of Gen. LaFayette for US Bicentennial Celebration
Ruth Pollac - 1st woman VP of IBM
Doris Hart - won every major tennis tournament
Julia Ward Howe - author of Battle Hymn of Republic
Donna Devarona - swimmer, 2 Olympics gold medals
Patty Berg - golfer, won US Open
Leslie Bush - Olympic gold medalist in diving

More:
http://www.uky.edu/StudentOrgs/KappaKappaGamma/history.html
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 02:58 PM
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5. Anonymous officials say the damndest things. n/t
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:54 PM
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12. Good one!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:05 PM
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:21 PM
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7. obsessed?
obsessed. evidence?
:wtf:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:20 PM
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15. pfft! why ruin a good lie with evidence??? nt
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:28 PM
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8. Isn't it wonderful how suddenly these leaks appear even though they
are not supposed to. I do not believe one word of any of it. They just want to once again degrade someone who is defenseless and end this before the real culprits have been caught. How could it have taken the FBI this long to find the anthrax mailer unless it was a government cover-up? This anthrax was apparently not the typs available at the lab where Ivins worked and the lab was filled with cameras everywhere.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:42 PM
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9. Now that's hard evidence!
Rock hard, but not fit to print.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:44 PM
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10. "Multiple U.S. officials" & "officials all spoke on condition of anonymity" says it all.
Lord knows we have PLENTY of reason to believe US "officials."
Especially the anonymous ones.

Case closed.
This explains EVERYthing- NOT!!!!!

Do they REALLY believe that we buy this crap?

BHN
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:50 PM
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11. Distractions, distractions. I'm not bothering to read any of this crap until someone with real cred
comes forward.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 03:58 PM
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13. Oh, ok. So THAT'S why anthrax was sent to Democratic
senators and the Enquirer photographer. Of course, silly me, I don't know why I didn't have that figured out a long time ago.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:05 PM
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14. Right. John Hinckley Jr. had an obsession with Jodie Foster...
the stories never change, just the names.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:53 PM
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16. They're just making stuff up now.
This is ridiculous.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 04:56 PM
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17. They're really desperate ---
Edited on Mon Aug-04-08 04:57 PM by defendandprotect
anyone who gives this case even a minimal of thought quickly understands

the dark government hand behind all of this ---

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 05:14 PM
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18. Does Putin stoop to this embarrassing cr@P!?
He and his government off people all the time. At least he doesn't embarrass himself into the bargain.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 05:17 PM
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19. Except for the assertion that no powdered anthrax was produced
at Ivins' facility. So he might have had an obsession, but where did the anthrax come from?
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-04-08 05:21 PM
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20. C'mon, secretly every straight man is obsessed with college girls.
Just not in a creepy, antrathaxian way.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:06 PM
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24. Ridiculous!
I don't know anyone who keeps it a secret :evilgrin:
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 12:57 PM
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22. Well, you can always tell what they're really worried about by how much they lie
about it. That's one usefulness of Associated Pukes' stories.

I've had fun figuring out Rumsfeld's scheme for getting Venezuela's oil partly by reading between the lines of Associated Pukes 'news' items.

It started way back with AP's ubiquitous "his critics say..." re Hugo Chavez being a "dictator," which I tracked to a rightwing Catholic Venezuelan cardinal who had spent his entire career in the Vatican finance office. There have been innumerable stories along this line since then, until, lo and behold, Rumsfeld's op-ed in the WaPo of 12/1/07, "How to Defeat Tyrants Like Chavez," in which he--among other things--urges "swift action" by the U.S. in support of "friends and allies" in South America. Next we hear the Bushites have reconstituted the 4th Fleet (a nuclear fleet) to roam around off the coast of Venezuela this summer. This Caribbean region of coastal Venezuela just happens to be the oil-rich state of Zulia, which--surprise, surprise--I learned, from non-AP sources--has a cabal of fascists who want to secede from Venezuela, and take the oil with them--a scheme that Rafael Correa, president of Ecuador says involves secessionist cabals in three oil-rich countries--Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia. The secessionist plot in Bolivia is in-progress, as we speak, but was rather crimped by the election of a leftist as president of neighboring Paraguay, which I believe was to be the launching pad for U.S. military support of the Bolivian white racist secessionists.

Anyway, to justify U.S. military support of fascist secessionists in Venezuela, you have to paint Hugo Chavez as a "dictator." Then you can tout the fascists as merely wanting their "independence." Zulia is also adjacent to Colombia, which the Bushites have larded with $6 BILLION in military aid, and where the U.S. Embassy appears to have a "war room" for orchestration of U.S./Colombia operations, such as the bombing/raid on Ecuador in March.

Much of this and more you can learn from following AP stories, if you know how to read them--and have some supplemental sources for particularly opaque propaganda. The allegation that Chavez is a "tyrant" was rather a hoot to begin with--as if Bushites are all pro-democracy and hate tyrants. But when you learn the facts, it becomes darn mystifying. Why are they be going on and on about a president who was actually elected--in quite transparent elections, no less? (--and who enjoys a 70% approval rating). I mean, besides being jealous. Well, there are a lot of reasons besides the oil--and there have been a lot of Bushite schemes to topple him, that haven't worked (coup d'etat, assassination, crippling oil professionals' strike, USAID-NED-funded recall election, the CIA-type "suitcase full of money" caper out of Miami, slander, dirty tricks, the lot). These have been inspired by various Venezuela projects for regional self-determination (such as the Bank of the South). But, hey, where's the oil, there are murderous, thieving Bushites scheming to get their hands on it, right? It's mainly the oil. (They are quite upset to see oil profits used to benefit the poor.) "How to Defeat Tyrants Like Chavez," who waste oil profits on schools and medical care, when all else has failed? If you can't separate Chavez from the presidency of Venezuela, then separate the oil from Chavez, with secession of the state with oil.

Could go forward this summer. Be alert. Get good at reading between the lines. And watch for intensified lies as the red flag for Bushite crime, coverup and more war.

The anthrax stories smell to high heaven. And you gotta wonder, why now? Did somebody get the goods on them? Did Ivins? What has prompted this furious coverup?
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:08 PM
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25. Whoever it was seems to be right on the brink of exposing themselves
What FBI agents were desperate enough to blackmail Duley and try to bribe Ivins' kids? What exactly do they know about the real anthrax killer?
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 01:05 PM
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23. are they trying to see how bizarre a story they can make up and
still have the Limbeciles believe it?

:wtf:
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RandomKoolzip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 05:02 PM
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26. "Was obsessed with..." Hmmm. What does that even mean?!
Was he jerking off over their logo? Did he get Kappa Kappa Gamma tattoos on his inner thighs? Did he sit in the lab all day, drooling and mutterring "Kappa Kappa Gamma" in gutteral tones over a vial of anthrax? Why would ANYONe be "obsessed" with a particular sorority? Did the girls in KKG steal his pants and humiliate him one day while he was in college?

This is just hilariously vague (and stupid). They don't REAAALLLY expect us to believe this shit, do they?!
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arewenotdemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-05-08 05:30 PM
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27. I believe it. Truth is often stranger than fiction.
I expect a healthy percentage of DUers will still doubt Ivins' guilt when we do hear more.

His brother seems to think he could have done it. And I don't think his therapist was making her story up.

Religious nutjob. Obsessive personality. Juggler.

It's all there, if you want to admit it.

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