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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:27 PM
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McCain sides with ban on affirmative action
Source: USA Today

Republican presidential candidate John McCain said Sunday that he favors a proposed referendum in Arizona that would ban affirmative action, reversing a position he took a decade ago.

It's the latest example of McCain changing positions that had once put him at odds with conservative Republicans, including his new proposals to extend President Bush's tax cuts and expand offshore oil drilling.

In 1998, McCain described an anti-affirmative action effort in his home state as "divisive." On Sunday, McCain backed a proposed amendment to the Arizona Constitution that would ban "preferential treatment" on the basis of "race, sex, color, ethnicity or national origin."

"I do not believe in quotas," McCain said on ABC's This Week With George Stephanopoulos. "But I have not seen the details of some of these proposals. But I've always opposed quotas."



Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-07-27-mccain_N.htm
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:29 PM
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1. Anyone keeping track of McJackass's flippity-flops? Does this make 67 or 68 now?
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:38 PM
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2. A pandering, senile fool.
He will do anything and say anything in the hopes of getting what he thinks is his due for his time as a POW: The Presidency.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:50 PM
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3. Sounds more like he thinks it's his due as an FOW
Fat Old Whiteguy.

Couldn't resist... repugs are such easy targets. They just line themselves up and pull the punchline trigger for ya.
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Blaq Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 12:53 PM
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4. Yeah, may be they'll ban the hiring of old people
Especially those funky old conservatives who run for president.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 03:10 PM
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5. I know this black gay guy who is a repuke and supports the old man
Edited on Mon Jul-28-08 03:11 PM by SemperEadem
he just quit where I work to go work for the old man's campaign on Friday... wonder how much he's liking his job right about now.
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Bleacher Creature Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-28-08 04:28 PM
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6. Straight Talk!!!!
What a jerk.
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McTorture Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 05:59 PM
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7. Affirmative Action
"...All men are created equal..."

- Source: Declaration of Independence (1776)

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain

unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

- Complete quote: Source: Declaration of Independence (1776)

These words were written by 'white aristocrats' that owned 'black slaves'

...They knew full well that they never fully intended to meet the obligations of the contractual agreement that they had

entered into as they later signed the Constitution, a 'contractual agreement' defining obligations between individuals and

the state.

IMHO, After 220 years of institutionalized racism, its nice to see that we as a nation are doing something, anything, to pay

reparations to the very people we once treated as property.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:03 PM
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8. He is trying to set a Political trap
It's not about AA, it's all about making Obama come out publicly FOR AA and painting him as someone who is only looking out for Blacks.

Reparations will be next.
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McTorture Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-29-08 06:05 PM
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9. All aboard ...the straight talk express...

McCain Defends Vote On Waterboarding
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/02/20/politics/main3852533.shtml?source=search_story

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The House passed the US Torture Bill that retroactively pardons all members of the Bush administration for torture.

McCain argues that torture works. Sure torture works. It worked with the Medieval Inquisition during the 12th and 13th century. And it worked again with the Spanish Inquisition during the 16th century, when, to gain a confession of heresy, and because it believed they were a threat, the Catholic Church waterboarded Jews and Protestants.

Torture surfaced its ugly head again with the Salem Witch Trials of 1692 when the guilty were burned alive.

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To gain a confession of heresy and because it believed they were a threat, the Catholic Church waterboarded Jews and Protestants in the 16th century.

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The Spanish Inquisition - (16th century)
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In order to interrogate the accused, the Inquisition made use of torture, but not in a systematic way. It was applied mainly against those suspected of Judaism and Protestantism, beginning in the 16th century.

"In order to interrogate the accused, the Inquisition made use of torture, but not in a systematic way. It was applied mainly against those suspected of Judaism and Protestantism, beginning in the 16th century. For example, Lea estimates that between 1575 and 1610 the court of Toledo tortured approximately a third of those processed for heresy.<31> In other periods, the proportions varied remarkably. Torture was always a means to obtain the confession of the accused, not a punishment itself. It was applied without distinction of sex or age, including children and the aged."

Introducing a cloth into the mouth of the victim, and forcing them to ingest water spilled from a jar so that they had impression of drowning.

"The methods of torture most used by the Inquisition were garrucha, toca and the potro. The application of the garrucha, also known as the strappado, consisted of suspending the criminal from the ceiling by a pulley with weights tied to the ankles, with a series of lifts and drops, during which arms and legs suffered violent pulls and were sometimes dislocated.<32> The toca, also called tortura del agua, consisted of introducing a cloth into the mouth of the victim, and forcing them to ingest water spilled from a jar so that they had impression of drowning (see: waterboarding).<33> The potro, the rack, was the instrument of torture used most frequently.<34>"

"The assertion that "confessionem esse veram, non factam vi tormentorum" (the confession was true and free) sometimes follows a description of how, presently after torture ended, the subject freely confessed to the offenses.<35>"

- Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#The_trial

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Medieval Inquisition - (12th and 13th century)
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Torture methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death were forbidden.

"Torture was used after 1252. On May 15, Pope Innocent IV issued a papal bull entitled Ad exstirpanda, which authorized the use of torture by inquisitors. Torture methods that resulted in bloodshed, mutilation or death were forbidden. Also, torture could be performed only once. However, it was common practice to consider a second torture session to be a "continuation" of the first. People were also tortured by getting hung by their wrists, and have weights hung by their ankles."

- Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_Inquisition#Torture

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