CNN BREAKING: WH may allow an indep. commission

[dennis4868]

They said Cheney was calling lawmakers today trying to put together the terms of a independent probe of the Iraq intelligence....

this is a joke!

[Sean Reynolds]

1. MAY?

There should be NO may. It should be they WILL allow. This is fucking unbelievable that they're getting away with this shit.

[dennis4868]

2. I am sure....

cheneys phone calls were meant to get the repub lawmakers in line that under no circumstances can there be an investigation of the WH!

[calimary]

24. But then later they'll say he put no pressure on 'em, right?

Just like the folks in the CIA whose necks he and Scooter Libby breathed down, every day.

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[Pikku]

46. Bush is mistaken

We aren't ASKING him for an independent investigation into 9-11, we're TELLING him there is going to be one, whether he willingly participates or not.

It isn't up to him to decide if the investigation will take place. If he decides to stall and delay, though, he'll face the repercussions.

[aquart]

50. Actually, the word "allow" ticks me off just as much.

The WH thinks it has the right to allow or not allow too damn much.

[arcane1]

3. The Dick is setting the terms???

ah yes, makes sense. It's just like when Clinton put together the terms for the Whitewater investigation :crazy:

[mouse7]

4. White House threw out a "may" as a companion to terra alert.

Clearly a BS companion to run behind the BS terra alert to pretend Dumbya remotely gives a crap what anyone thinks about him.

[onebigbadwulf]

5. Since when did independent investigations become optional?

....Talk about pissing on the constitution.

[hang a left]

18. Not to worry I hear that either James Baker or Henry

Kissinger are going to head the investigation. Just sit tight, we'll find out what happened.

[JohnyCanuck]

22. Or maybe Scalia is free n/t

n/t

[reprobate]

67. Scalia should not be free.

He should be serving life for murder of the constitution.

[0007]

29. If Baker or Kissinger are gonna head the investigation,

I'll be able to sleep better for sure.

[stevedeshazer]

6. When Dick Cheney talks...

...people listen.

This is a pre-emptive strike. Something is going down. Right now.

[a_random_joel]

7. Why not... It's Friday afternoon before the Super Bowl!

Good timing, no?

[Ediacara]

12. no joke man....

Cheney could get caught in bed with an elephant, the doctored WMD photos, Osama bin Laden and 30 kg of coke, and it still wouldn't pre-empt superbowl sunday...

[calimary]

25. It would for me. But then again, I'm no football fan.

I'm certainly not going to watch the Superbowl. I can use that time to do beading. None of us particularly has the sports gene in my family, except for the martial arts. Not even my husband. One of many reasons why I married him!

[Ready4Change]

8. Terms?

It's an independant investigation. Possible subjects of the investigation don't get to dictate "terms." They get to deliver information via testimony and releasing papers.

And speaking of papers, Mr. Cheney...

[arcane1]

14. why not?

he got to go on a romantic hunting vacation with Scalia, paid for by the very energy lobbyists that are supposed to be investigated, along with The Dick

rules no longer apply to Repubes

[Ready4Change]

53. Do we know this?

Is it documented that the trip was paid for by energy lobbyists? Not doubting it, just would like a link to reference if some of the people a chat with dispute this. Thanks!

[arcane1]

68. there was a link on DU somewhere

they flew to the hunting trip in a private plane, belonging to ????

[The_Casual_Observer]

9. Can you imagine the chaos going on in the WH over this!

It would be a glorious site to behold! Perhaps they sense a problem here.:party:

[Beetwasher]

10. Cheney's Terms

I'll pick the Chairman and the members of the commission. We'll give you what we feel like giving you to look at. Only Repubs can look at it, and they have to do so under my glare..errr, I mean supervision and in my office. They can't take notes or release any of it to the public. You will find that there was sufficient cause for the invasion or you don't get your grandchildren back.

[Danieljay]

16. Exactly.

this is lame.

[calimary]

26. And we'll give you the next three whole hours in which to complete the

investigation. OOOP! That's on London time, of course, so that means your time is up. Investigation complete! Time to move on. Let's not be dwelling on the past, 'eh? Next?

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[mn9driver]

64. Also, "The results cannot be released before the election" nt.

[JohnOneillsMemory]

11. panel of: Rand Beers, Joseph Wilson, Karen Kwiatkowski, Coleen Crowley,

and the widows of John O'Neill and David Kelley.

I'd get cable to watch those hearings.

Looks like the White House knows it better get involved and keep the wash looking white so they can get a 'Hutton' pass like Blair's. But since the UK public is disgusted with their recent white wash, Blair's ticket to virtue will last as long as sushi on the dashboard of a Baghdad Hummer.

I predict the WH will try to control the investigation and coordinate it with the 'Spring Offensive' in Afghanistan so they can claim that discussing intel would prevent them from finding bin Laden. Unlike announcing their plans to the press months in advance to balance against the Kay headlines.

Someone here at DU has a signature quote that's perfect:::
"No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up."

[a_random_joel]

17. The "real" panel...

Is bound to have Kissinger...

[Jackpine Radical]

23. "No matter how cynical I get, I can't keep up."

I think that's a Lilly Tomlin quote.

Everything I needed to know I learned from Yogi Berra and Lilly Tomlin.

[DoYouEverWonder]

13. Cheney is going to try to pull a Hutton?

n/t

[Danieljay]

15. Always ahead of the game..

this is a fraud and there is a good chance the America people are going to fall for it. Make it look like they were fooled by bad intelligence, find a couple of scapegoats in the intelligence agencies, fire them, take credit for getting to the "truth", play the victim, and George Bush is again a hero! Joe Public then froths at the mouth and waves their American flags, re-elects Bush in November for protecting us from terra and solving the intelligence problem. Ha, now there's a contradiction for ya, George Bush solving a problem of intelligence.

Can you say Diversion? Gotta hand it to Rove...he plays the public like a fiddle.

[acmavm]

20. For God's sakes, give the American public some credit. I sincerely do

not believe that these buffoons can get away with anymore crap. There is just too damn much information out there, and I highly doubt that career intelligence officials and operatives are going to feel like taking the blame for this.

Like the old saying goes, 'there's a fine line between love and hate' and I truly feel like they crossed that line a long time ago. The history of the lies that have come out of this administration has shown people what a bunch of thugs and cretins they are. Bush has proven his ignorance a thousand times. No, it just won't work.

[catmandu57]

57. Thar's the way I feel also

we're not giving the public much credit. This boat has so many holes in it, that the neoconvicts can't bail fasr enough to keep it afloat.

[Malva Zebrina]

65. does it matter if we give the American people more credit?

we marched by the millions, we American people, to tell Americans we KNEW Bush was lying. Is it feasible to think that the American people will not believe Bush when wimps wimp up to suppport Bush in the congress. Hell, I mean, if not a one of them says a thing, well then, I guess Bush is right--yup,CIA is just plain dumb -- as the richest most powerful country in the world who practically owns the world, our intelligence agency is dumb as rocks--yup and they will believe it.

I don't like to be so cynical either--but time after time we have seen it happen -- over a period of three years. We saw a blank check given to Bush to wage an immoral, and an unjust war based on things he made up and thousands are now dead. Yup--Congress gave it to him--and no one can tell me they did NOT know . Sure they will not say a thing about this because they are in the position now where they have to agree--they believed the "bad intelligence" too and that is why they gave Bush the blank check--that is how it will go. With the exception of those who did have enough integrity and honesty to call a spade a spade.

So, don't be too hard on we cynics and skeptics. We have become suspicious ,and lost some of our faith and hope.

[Danieljay]

66. first it was Kean..then O'Neill

now this...oh, and lets not forget Wilson. How many more will it take for people to wake up and smell the coffee? Each time its explained away and quietly swept under the rug. I'm still hoping that eventually these stories will take root, and become so abundant in number they will no longer be able to keep the truth from coming out. I don't wish to sound negative..and I'll hold a higher conscousness as to the possibility of change... I am feeling just a bit dis-heartened lately. Thanks to those continuing to hold the high watch while I have my pity party, I'll be done shortly!

[Fovea]

69. And the the incredible hit on the whole Bush gang

delivered by Susskind and Phillips.

But I think we should make sure the Neil
get his day in the sun, don't you?
Maybe we could get a regular instalment
with Neil and Bill Bennett, on the road.

[ThoughtCriminal]

19. The usual terms I presume

Compliant members with conflicts of interest, no testimony under oath, limited resoureces, limited access to classified data, closed hearings, no findings until after election...

[Just Me]

21. Just another "focus group" thingy.

Appears to me that they are starting to spin on their own spinning. The "focus group" dependency is having a fragmented effect because we, the American people, actually are a very diverse, quite educated, very resourceful and independent bunch of people. Sure, we may be so gullible as to have faith in and trust those who are supposed to be acting in our best interests. We may even, for some time, engage in denial or resistance of a horrendous betrayal against us by those in whose charge we have placed our security and interests. But, eventually, we get it (a helluva lot sooner than in the past) and the propagandizing through "focus groups", with the intent of "selling" something other than the principles which most Americans simply find priceless,...will leave this administration dizzy and bankrupt! At least, I sincerely do hope that my perception plays out as being right on target.

[David Zephyr]

27. They Had No Choice. McCain's Vote on the Committee Assured It.

White House will "allow" an independent commission.

It was all over once McCain called for it yesterday.

[ramblin_dave]

28. This will be like the 9/11 so-called independent commission

The regime will want to name the chairman and half the members, and limit the range of inquiry.

[stevebreeze]

60. don't forget tat some members had to interrogate themselves.

now that's independence.
:kick:

[Cocoa]

30. the big question...

will the commission be made up of Cheney's duck-hunting buddies or his fly-fishing buddies?

[truthisfreedom]

31. ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha

that cheney is such a card! oh, wait... then what is card?

[short bus president]

48. I believe

Card is the designated burger fetcher.

[grasswire]

32. anyone find a link yet?

I've been looking. This may be a little hyped by CNN.

[fizzana]

33. They will have an independent inquiry

however, as this is the CIA all documents are classified so therefore no-one on the commission is allowed to have access to any documents. THey'll get documents that are totally blacked out to study to their hearts content.

All this time Cheney's people will be writing the report.

[librechik]

35. David Brooks on the NewsHour said an inquiry is almost certain

(tonight)

just need to hear the contralto warble...

[Jacobin]

34. Can they get Lord Hutton to head the inquiry?

He just did a BEAUTIFUL job white washing Blair's little problem.

[DianeG5385]

42. Or maybe Ken Starr?

I don't get where the Whitehouse gets to decide when and if and the terms of an investigation. It's time for all the cards to be shown. We know there is no national security issue involved since supposedly the "intelligence was so bad. How could they then have been so positive???? C'mon! We know we were manipulated and deceived, but how are they allowed to keep spinning??? Something is seriously stinky with the PNAC crowd!

[Oilwellian]

36. This is what McCain suggested today

The findings of the independent investigation will NOT be released until AFTER the November election. That's what Peter Jennings reported on ABC Nightly News.

[moondust]

38. There's nothing to find.

If there were no WMD there certainly was no intelligence on them beyond that which was fabricated. (Apparently Lord Hutton didn't get the memo either.)

[Democat]

39. How is it independent if Cheney sets the rules?

Maybe they missed the "independent" part?

[annagull]

40. Cheney looking to appoint Lord Hutton to chair the inquiry

Or a close American facsimile.

[markses]

41. WHITEWASH Imminent...WHITEWASH Imminent

Bushie learned a thing or two from Tony Baby over in that there Lon - duh-n. Whitewash imminent!

And for those of you who say "Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't," you good and goddamn right. That's what happens when you shoot your credibility to shit by stealing elections and murdering thousands of people for financial and personal gain. You get damned.

Fuck you, Bushie, you murderer.

[maggrwaggr]

43. CNN.com -- "White House open to options on WMD probe"

said Cheney: "we welcome any probe or investigation that guarantees to not only exonerate us completely, but will also continue our lies to the American people and convince them that in fact Syria is our next target."

(I'm making that up)

What a fucking asshole. Open to options? How about this option, Cheney. What size rope do you want?

[The_Casual_Observer]

51. It would have to be a thick one

The guy has to weigh at least 300 lbs.

[leesa]

44. What arrogance! The criminals are demanding the terms.

[maggrwaggr]

47. I gotta get off DU. My head's gonna explode.

I mean how fucked up can this country be? This is like letting Ted Bundy be the judge in his own fucking trial.

Why is it taking so long for these guys to go down? We shouldn't be having elections, we should be having a TRIAL.

[grasswire]

49. here is the transcript of the "breaking" news

It seems as if the story was hyped -- no other news outlet is carrying this.

KAGAN: All right. Kelli Arena, with the latest from Washington. Thank you for that.

We also have some breaking news from the White House as well. For that, we go to Suzanne Malveaux -- Suzanne.

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well Daryn, it is a significant development. There has been a lot of discussion over whether or not there should be an independent commission to investigate the prewar intelligence on weapons of mass destruction. We heard that from former weapons inspector David Kay. We also heard from that from Senator John McCain.

There is a growing movement among those on the Hill toward this independent commission. Well, what we have gotten from congressional and administration sources, they tell us that the White House is looking at a range of options and that Vice President Dick Cheney today called key lawmakers to let them know that the administration is looking at a number of options that perhaps they would use to independently investigate this prewar intelligence. Now, they say that this is preliminary, there are no decisions that have been made on this manner. But, of course, this certainly indicates that the White House is more open than it had previously suggested or even publicly suggested for an independent probe to get to the bottom of this.

And very interestingly enough, President Bush that was asked today twice about this, whether or not he approved of an independent commission. He said he only wanted to get to the bottom of this, to get to the facts.

http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0401/30/acd.00.html

[LiberalFighter]

52. What happened with the Watergate hearings?

Nixon didn't give permission for the investiagtion did he?

It was conducted by Congress.

The problem we have now is that Congress is controlled by the repugs.

[SoCalDem]

54. "may allow".. How positively "regal" of them

:puke:

[dusty64]

55. Another "independent" commission

dictated by the WH. Isn't it unbelievable how EVERYTHING changes when rethugs are in charge. Expect ALL the old rules, laws, and ways to return in a hurry if a Democrat is allowed to get elected.

[underpants]

56. Like the Plame investigation they are trying to set the parameters

Look this can't be more obvious. Do the American people need to be smacked in the head with a boat oar to wake up and figure this out?

[spanone]

58. Cheney should keep his fucking mouth shut.

This asshole should be in jail. CNN said Cheney was negotiating. WTF???? How independent will any investigation be???? 0

[matcom]

59. WH ALLOW? Then it is NOT an 'Independant Investigation'!

by default.

if the WH "allows" the investigation, then it is by default NOT Independent

[DubyaSux]

61. Faith based inquiry?

Maybe they'll call this the "Immaculate Deception"

[colonel odis]

62. cnn just announced the howard, fine and howard law firm

will head the investigation.

nyuk nyuk nyuk!

[JohnOneillsMemory]

70. "S-O-A-P...hmm...Soup!" The stooges go to Baghdad. lol. n/t

[laylah]

63. Who the fark

are they to "allow" an independent commission? WTF is Congress? Oh, I forgot, up their backsides. Arrogant, rotten, sleazy, incidious s.o.b's! :mad:

Jenn

[Kusala]

71. investigations

how's that Valerie Plume investigation going? How about the 9/11 probe? Like a WMD probe will go anywhere.