'Obama' Hate Messages, Graffiti Cover 60 Orlando City Vehicles

[Fluffdaddy]

Source: ORLANDO, Fla. local news channel six

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Vandals spray-painted "Obama Smokes Crack" and other hate messages on 60 city vehicles parked across the street from City Hall in downtown Orlando.

Investigators said the vandals painted the messages -- which appear to be politically motivated -- after dark Saturday night.

Local 6 showed several vehicles covered in different colors with the "Obama" messages.

A passing motorist initially spotted the damage and called police.

"I'm driving by and every car I see has been hit with spray paint," witness Mike Lowe said. "There is so much damage to them. There are messages written on them and the vandals left their business card, which is crazy."

Special business cards left near the damaged vehicles contained negative messages about Sen. Barack Obama and Sen. John McCain. However, there were positive words about Sen. Hillary Clinton, Local 6's Kimberly Houk reported.

Some of the vehicles also had opened gas tanks.

Orlando police are investigating the incident and the business cards left at the scene.



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[NJmaverick]

1. Another right wing terrorist attack

conservatives are an immoral bunch:puke:

[Fluffdaddy]

2. And the right-wing hate campaign starts. It will only get worst

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

5. Nah. It's a little more simplistic than that.

There are a lot of our high-school-age people who have been totally and completely indoctrinated into an extremely far-right mindset. From what I can see, it is caused by a mixture of right-wing DJ's on the "morning zoo" types of programs, some O'Reilly(who they seem to listen to), definitely Savage, who they listen to and quote chapter and verse and use dog-whistle racism in their invective, and peer pressure that grows the mindset in a cross-pollenating fashion. You also have racist and/or skinhead groups that are quite resurgent and every kid wants to be part of a group.

For some of them, it is all they have known for the last 8 years. It has just been the way things are and they way things are supposed to be. Without any thought of question. These are some of the most intolerent, racist, violence-loving people I have ever seen. Thouroughly indoctrinated and each one trying to outdo the other. There is going to be some big problems with them. They are totally and completely incapable of recognizing any of the challenges facing this nation. They are completely wedded to a status quo that doesn't exist, except in the minds of the right-wing squawkers that fill their heads with an agenda that runs directly counter to their own best interests. They support a militaristic, violent and authoritarian government. They consider it just peachy to go to war with any country that has oil, to make it ours.

They are well worth NOT ignoring.

[Doctor_J]

13. Nicely said, TS

It could be that the election of Obama will actually spark the civil war that's been simmering ever since Limpballs, Hannity, Weiner, and their ilk took over the airwaves. Some of them, like Weiner, openly advocate for violence. If/when this finally blows, I hope:

1. Our side is ready. There is a tendency, I think, to believe that all of hate radio listeners are like the hosts - devout cowards who curl up in a ball or head for a gated neighborhood as soon as trouble starts. witness Limpballs' behavior after his disciple Tim McVeigh killed a bunch of innocents. But many hate radio listeners are like McVeigh, and will actually be ready to rumble when the time comes. Luckily we outnumber them by 1000:1 or so, but we still need to beware.

2. These vandals and others like them aren't deluded enough to think that their "heroes" like O'Reilly and Hannity and Ingram and Limpballs and Weiner and Gallagher and Coulter and Liddy and Buchanan and Morgan Medved and Malkin and all the local "morning zoo" hosts are going to stand with them when the going gets tough.

I hope that Obamans can marginalize these people though progress, positivity, and the Constitution, but we need to have a plan in case it doesn't work.

[RedLetterRev]

33. To put a finer point on it

They support a militaristic, violent and authoritarian government. They consider it just peachy to go to war with any country that has oil, to make it ours.

...so long as someone else is doing the actual bleeding, hurting and dying. Right-wing types never dirty their own hands when it comes to actual work. Never have, never will. This strikes me as another typical right-wing operation -- underhandedness under the cover of darkness. Sociopaths, liars, and worst of all, cowards.

What these little thugs fail to realize is that since the dawn of human history, types like them have been used to promote tyrants who will never ever let them have the crumbs from the table they help to set up.

[bluesmail]

50. Recommended. We need more threads on their psyops.

Any and all of them. :hi: on edit nada to edit.

[DBoon]

61. I bet some Germans wished they hadn't ignored them in 1927

nt

[Altean Wanderer]

65. Pretty scary for our future n/t

[goddess40]

77. You're right, the right doesn't need to "organize" this stuff

There brainwashed nasties devise and carry out their own crap, just like the pro-fetus loonies that bomb medical centers because some women might be having an abortion. They just get the ideas flowing that it's honorable to stop the enemy at any cost and the wing nuts take care of the rest.

In '04 there was talk on line and in the news about people tampering with voter registration and we had to young guys taking registrations downtown that never got filed any where. The stupid thing is that we have registration at the polls so it didn't work as well as it did for the jerks that did it in Nevada.

[John Kerry VonErich]

26. Doubtful that it is right wing

Whoever did it must be a real sick individual. But what kind of right winger would leave business cards saying "legalize marajuana" and "stop building prisons"? To my best knowledge I don't think a right winger had anything to do with it if they left those messages.

[kimmylavin]

32. Strange, huh?

Perhaps it was right-wingers trying to frame lefties?

All in all, whoever they were, they were a bunch of idiots: witness Obama spelled "Oboma" on one car...

[newmajority]

42. false flag operations

just like those "eco-terrorist" groups that you never heard of before Chimpy was in office, and don't know anybody who belongs to them, regardless of how many actual left wing activists you know.

These alleged "eco-terrorists" have even been known to "torch" new subdivisions of McMansions that weren't selling after the sub prime mortgage scam collapsed. When did insurance fraud become an "environmental" cause?

[Zuiderelle]

43. Not that smart actually. Would only really fool people who don't think.

But I guess smart enough to fool some people. Have you ever met anyone stupid enough to so obviously implicate themselves? Have you ever met anyone who pretends to be something they're not to implicate someone else.

[niceypoo]

27. All of this kind of racist crap will just backfire on them...

...let the cards fall where they may..

[VeraAgnes]

57. They, the GOP just love the Obama-Clinton hatred.

They are keeping our Democratic Party divided to serve THEM. Too bad it has done so here at DU as well.

[whistle]

3. KKKarl Rove rat fuckers in action here, beyond dirty tricksters

[apetheticvoter2780]

59. Probably not Rove

Karl Rove? Please dude... Robert Byrd would not be in the Senate if he was a Republican and of course that would be the right thing to do.

[Lorien]

4. That's within walking distance of my home

I think I know what garage they were parked in too. Shouldn't be hard to find the vandals-all of the garages near city hall are fairly new and fully equipped with video cameras!

What a bunch of dumbasses. I hope they are forced to pay for the repaint on each and every vehicle!

[Trillo]

46. Funny thing about video tapes,

when they show "the wrong people" (those in power) doing something illegal, they tend to disappear or have a "malfunction". If the tapes don't disappear, then I'd guess that it wasn't those in power doing the deed.

Consequently, the only way for surveillance video, those showing public spaces, to be equitable is for everyone to have access to the cameras, such as through the Internet, in an open-source type of model.

Nobody's discussing that.

[Jackpine Radical]

55. Now, THAT is a bizarrely interesting idea!!

Public-access video cams in public places.

[CookCountyResident]

71. Right. Otherwise...

It's very Big Brother. George Orwell was amazingly far-thinking.

I'm already sick to death of the new Tollway "big brother" cameras here in Chicago.

Their excuse for putting them up was to monitor the traffic during the construction period, but of course they'll stay up long after that.

[heliarc]

78. I would guess this might be called ...

the "Street View Model" Its sort of what Google is offering a visitor. Of course I'm loathe to let google replace our representative democracy.

[onehandle]

6. Central Florida is full of right-wing extremists. The billboards showing aborted fetuses...

...to all passing children on their way to Disney World are a perfect example of how nuts they are.

[Lorien]

8. Never seen any of those, and I've lived here for 19 years

Orlando voted for Democrats in the past two presidential elections.

[onehandle]

12. The city is Democratic like most large cities.

But the areas surrounding the city is like the panhandle. Republican.

The Billboards are on the "Ronald Reagan Turnpike" going South to Orlando. My wife and I drive down twice a year and are greeted by billboards featuring imagery of Orlando attractions and dead babies.

They don't always have the imagery. Sometimes they're just pro-life slogans. But they've been along the turnpike at least since the early ninties.

[Lorien]

15. Ah, well that's the Ronald Reagan turnpike for you

I've only driven it twice, thank goodness. On a turnpike with a name like that you'll probably find yourself wandering pointlessly throughout the most redneck areas of the state with no memory of where you've been and no idea of where you're going.

[Orangepeel]

68. parts of Orange County surrounding Orlando are represented by Tom Feeney

hard to get more extremist than that Tom Delay wannabe.

[SeanQuinn]

24. But Orlando is Democratic, and this was just a prank.

No RW hack plan here.

[tuckessee]

7. Freepers in action. n/t

[liberal1973]

41. I agree

[ensho]

9. the neo cons are still afraid of Hillary

this is just the beginning of the troubles to come

[AlbertCat]

10. B-b-b-but...

they had anti-McCain slogans too, and pro Hillary ones. I know! It musta been Hillary supporters, not Right Wing operatives!


Actually, the kids that did this probably don't care who is president. That or it's a bunch of 30-something white men. "We'll make it look like Hillary supporters! MWHAAAHAHAHAHA!"

[Fluffdaddy]

14. The Freepers are saying the same thing........hummm

[Faygo Kid]

16. Not so sure. If you visit some Hillary sites, their seething hatred is palpable.

Please note that I said, some. Head on over to hillaryclintonforum.net and tell me that folks posting there aren't capable of this outrage. Of course they are.

[roseBudd]

19. Check out the PUMA blog too

[Fluffdaddy]

21. Just saying " PUMA blog " don't help............have a link?

Thank you

[roseBudd]

45. sorry here is the link

http://blog.pumapac.org/

[Fluffdaddy]

20. wow never been to that site. ..........As a HRC supported

I'm sad I never visited that site doing the campaign. But It's over and BHO won, I now support him.

You are right, after just reading a few of the posts over there.................There are some Real Haters.

In fact I'm a little shocked about the stuff/hate over there............lots of GOP talking points about BHO :(

[awoke_in_2003]

30. They aren't really Hillary supporters

they are right wing trolls trying to stir shit up. Two of the leaders were interviewed on Fox. One second, the guy says he has always voted for the Democratic ticket. Not 30 seconds later he said he didn't want the DNC to do to him what the RNC did to him in 2000 (support the "wrong" candidate). He couldn't keep the facade up for a 5 minute interview.

The ones who did this vandalism are RW trolls, too. They want democrats at each others throats.

[quark219]

35. I hope you're right.

Unfortunately, after seeing videos of the HRC supporters at the meeting of the rules committee, it's all too easy to believe those posts are, indeed, what they appear to be.

[awoke_in_2003]

37. I would like to believe they were plants, too.

The right wing has long labeled Hillary as a "bitch". They want to drive this message home by making it appear that her supporters are just like what they think she is. They want us divided, because that is the only way McSame can make it into office. Are there some bitter supporters out there? I am sure there are, but nowhere near as many as is portrayed by MSM. Would they want to sabotage an election? Really don't think so.

[liberal1973]

39. Plants- it wouldn't surprise me

This is how stupid these bastards are. Calling cards?

[quark219]

34. The attitudes on hillaryclintonforum.net are unbelievable.

I just spent 10 minutes reading posts over there and it is unbelievable. I had no idea how bad the situation is with some of the HRC die-hards. Worse than I could have imagined. In the interest of NOT stirring up division over here, (I'm a former HRC supporter, now an Obama supporter) I'll refrain from saying anything more.

But just permit he to shake my head here silently. Wow.

[CookCountyResident]

72. Yes. and

that's the scary part.

[jwirr]

29. Thirty-something white men wearing hoods. Not grown up yet.

[riona]

11. Their calling card is, as usual, bad spelling

[boomerbust]

17. I wondered

what Jeb was up to.

[ensho]

18. preparing to step in for McC

nt

[HooptieWagon]

22. My theory

Spray-painting vandals tend to be younger, and male - not what you'd expect the typical bitter Hillary supporter to be. The Hillary angle is probably an attempt to throw off authorities or to foster divisiveness. My bet is that the perpetrators are youngish, white, male racists - neo-nazi's, skinheads, or extreme RW bible-thumpers. JMO, of course. If the business cards were printed at a printing shop (rather than a PC), these guys should be fairly easy to track down. And if this was a city parking facility, there may be surveillence video that hasn't been mentioned yet.

[SeanQuinn]

25. No, knowing the area of town, they were teenagers and don't care about politics n/t

[niceypoo]

28. My first thought exactly...

[HooptieWagon]

36. If it was teens

then someone probably put them up to it... provided the paint, and business cards, perhaps even paid them. I'm thinking it was more likely males in their very early twenties.

[INDIA]

51. probably not. Probably just stupid kids looking for attention..and guess what?

THEY GOT IT. The media and everybody on this thread has given them exactly what they wanted.

Step 1) Do something stupid
Step 2) Tie it to the general election somehow (bonus points for referring to Obama in a racist manner)
Step 3) Step back and watch the national media breathlessly report this "late breaking exclusive scoop!!!!!!!!!!"
Step 4) Watch the sheeple's OUTRAGE!



No thanks. I'm going to forget this ever happened and ignore any follow up stories in the future. It just doesn't matter.

[SeanQuinn]

23. They love Hillary, though.

According to when I heard this story on the local news this morning.
Just kids screwing around.

[merwin]

40. Do kids often leave business cards when they vandalize things?

I would think it's right wingers trying to point the finger at Clinton supporters

[HooptieWagon]

44. Kids might leave cards

if someone provided them and was paying them to vandalize...

[bluestateguy]

31. McCain must reject and denounce

We need to demand that he reject and denounce every racist attack on Obama. That way he is forced to alienate the GOP's racist base.

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[merwin]

38. Appears to be politically motivated????

Spraypainting city vehicles with anti-Obama messages is political? No shit!?!?!?

[TheWarIzaLie]

47. Probably just some young punks..

Looking at the pictures, I noticed that they misspelled "Obama" and "smoke". Fuckin morans...

[TBF]

49. "Young punks" carrying business cards? Heh.

[treestar]

70. It is easy to make business cards on the computer

My ten year old nephew made himself a business card!

[Earth_First]

48. The article clearly states that BOTH Obama AND McCain were targeted...

Yet the headline omits McCain's name and leads one to believe that Obama was the sole target.

Fuck, I wouldn't be surprised if it were WKMG themselves!

[Ian David]

52. It was probably The Paultatrds. n/t

[apetheticvoter2780]

60. AGREE

Yaaay... somebody agrees with my theory!

Paul brings out the worst in some people. Him and Alex Jones got one of my friends. Little too paranoid if you ask me.

[Ian David]

62. Unless maybe Linden LaRouche hasd crawled outa the woodwork.

It COULD be LaRouchebags.

[tblue37]

53. My guess is that it's either teenaged boys being smart asses or

some sort of GOP dirty trick to try to further the Democratic divide.

But when I went to the hillary forum.net site, I found this comment in the thread about the vandalism:

The business cards tell us all we need to know: Hillary supporters would not put down John McCain! <emphasis added>This is clearly Obama's camp trying get the victim card.

That comment really bothers me, because it shows that at least some Hillary supporters still think John McCain is a white knight who deserves their active support, rather than the reactionary misogynistic jerk he really is.

[Nevernose]

54. Dirty tricks to divide Democrats

The business cards were there to emphasize the attempt at divisiveness, and were clearly not provided by teenagers, even if teenagers were the ones who performed the crime.

It takes an act of god to get a teenage boy to bring a pencil to school; I just can't see them showing the initiative to print out business cards beforehand.

At least, that's my conjecture.

[cstanleytech]

56. Shouldnt the Secret Service be investigating this also? Just wondering.

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[superconnected]

64. Enjoy your short stay.

[lewtang]

66. Ah yes....

I post something someone doesn't agree with so I have to be threatened with getting kicked off the board.....nice

[treestar]

69. Disgruntled Hillary supporters don't fit

They would tend to be middle aged women, and this is not their style.

[lonestarnot]

74. Well I hope some of us give you diarrhea.

[and-justice-for-all]

67. Obama Smokes Crack?

That is all they could come up with?? Kids these days.

[goforit]

73. Certainly some one caught these asses on film.

[knixphan]

75. Lived in Orlando for a few years -

And all my neighbors were fairly conservative - Could have been a fluke.

[goddess40]

76. which appear to be politically motivated - too funny

not the damage the fact that the news can't seem to just admit it's politically motivated.

this is two in one hit. Nasty about Obama and trying to blame it on Clinton supporters. Not only does it give out bad messages about Obama it also attempts to divide an conquer the democrats - sadly, both of which will work to some extent.