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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:04 AM
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bushs approval hits new low 23 percent
Source: Think Progress


Only 23 percent of Americans said they approve of President Bush’s job performance in a new Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg survey, which is a new low for him in that poll. Seventy-three percent of respondents said they disapproved of the job Bush is doing.



Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/24/bushs-approval-hits-new-low-23-percent/ç




That's the whole article. Maybe someone can find a direct link to the poll.

Looks like * is down the the 20 or so percent who will always vote for the biggest ape regardless of any confusing things like issues.
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hadrons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:12 AM
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1. John Dean said this would be his absolute low ....
These people (the 23%ers) are immunized against reality.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:18 AM
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3. 23% represent the worst we have
a very vocal minority that has screwed this country up pretty bad. Dellsuional, misinformed, fanatical and greedy. I'm sure there are other characteristics that could easily be included in that little list of detriments, but they all just boil down to the worst the U.S. has to offer.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:37 PM
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15. But you're not prejudiced or anything.
No, you know all about "them" without knowing a thing.

They're Americans. They have a RIGHT to their opinion, even if it isn't yours. Even if it isn't mine.

They have families. They have fears. You might want to find out something about that before you start calling them the "worst."

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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:41 PM
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16. are you for real? Are you Part of the 23%
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 12:46 PM by fascisthunter
sorry, but my OPINION still stands, aquart. They truly are the worst this country has to offer. If you diasagree, just say so. Nowhere in my post did I say I knew everything about them but the consequences of the support for a criminal speak for themselves.

PS - spare me the lecture
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:29 PM
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24. I agree with you.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:44 PM
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28. I thought your description
of the 23% was inspired! It actually brought Michelle Malkin's name right to my head. You nailed it.


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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:24 PM
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38. thank you
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:39 PM
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26. they are the worst. they enabled us into a war and shouted down
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 03:50 PM by roguevalley
the opposition. they are the shock troops for this admin. you are the one who needs to get a grip. they are delusional and the worst. Geez.

edit: this is for farther up the thread. these sure fall down the thread quickly.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:46 PM
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29. Their opinion has screwed the rest of the planet. They may have a right to their opinion but
everyone else has a right to think they are the worst this country has to offer. Supporting Bush in 2000 was one thing, supporting him today is a whole different ball-game. Ignorance is one thing, willful ignorance is another.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:49 PM
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31. My Opinion is in agreement with fascisthunter's. They are the worst this country has to offer. (nt)
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:13 PM
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39. Sorry, but there *is* a problem with people who still support bush.
The list of bush's crimes and other horrors he has visited on America and the world is a mile long. Anyone who still doesn't acknowledge this fact is a danger to the Republic, whether they have "families" and "fears" or not. These are the "Muslim Obama" people. They are killing our country.

They have a right to their opinion. But their opinion is wrong. Dead wrong.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:09 PM
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45. There is nothing redeeming in the 23% that think...
...Bush is doing a good job. If you can say in a poll that you think Bush is doing the right thing, then you are saying lying us into an immoral and illegal war is a good thing, spying on American citizens without warrant and judicial check is a good thing, waterboarding is just good ol' frat house fun and a good thing, ignoring Katrina while people died of thirst is a good thing, two multi-trillion tax giveaways primarily to the top 2% while our infrastructure rots and our social security grows insecure are good things -- no, there is nothing redeeming in anybody who approves of the job Bush has done. The best you can say is that they are woefully ill-informed and only dimly intelligent.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:26 PM
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47. Fuck all that noise; they are drooling, knuckle-dragging morons with shit for brains
Fuck them. American society would be better off without them.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:18 AM
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2. Gee, that makes even -me- more popular than him...
:D
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:37 PM
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25. That makes mildew, herpes, fire ants and Hummer drivers
more popular than him.
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Hugin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:08 PM
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36. Yeah, all of the popular kids.
*sigh*


( :rofl: )
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:21 AM
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4. dead -enders
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:25 AM
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5. Imagine how low it would be if the media reported the truth about what is going on in Iraq
If they did I don't think he would be president anymore.
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DeeDeeNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:30 AM
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6. Excellent point
Not just the truth about Iraq but a whole spectrum of issues that do not get reported by the corporate media.
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iaviate1 Donating Member (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:47 AM
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9. Well who is protecting him now? 23%?
No, the Dems are. He should be out of office.
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Kaleko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:19 PM
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43. That is what drives me to the brink...
that we are being betrayed by so many elected Democrats as we speak.

And the whole world is paying the price, not just US.
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Stuart G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:36 AM
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7. Lowest ever in any major poll....Greatest disapproval rating ever..73%


Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 08:16 AM by Stuart G
Here is a link to see all recent polls at once..

http://www.pollingreport.com/BushJob.htm
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 05:17 PM
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40. bush's *disapproval* number is higher than Clinton's approval number!
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 05:18 PM by mwb970
Wasn't Bill around 70% approval at the time he was impeached over nothing? Now the criminal bush is at 73% disapproval, impeachment is off the table, and he is held responsible for not one damn thing. Ever.

Makes sense to me! What a great democracy we have!

edit: typo
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boomerbust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:42 AM
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8. HERE
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:50 AM
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10. Mission not Accomplished ---- yet.
I've read where Bush and Cheney, and a few other neocons don't believe they're doing their job right, until their approval rating hit's ZERO.

Just imagine how much catching up he's got to do in the next 7 months. :scared:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 11:50 AM
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11. well * got his wish he never wanted to be "popular" president.
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Bush_MUST_Go Donating Member (378 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:00 PM
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13. Out of the 23%, I doubt very many HONESTLY don't think he's a total disgrace.
If people were given a truth serum before they were polled, I doubt his approval ratings would be higher than 5% tops.
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wilt the stilt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:00 PM
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12. I believe you could impeach both
and that the dems would be celebrated by the populus
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douglas9 Donating Member (762 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:02 PM
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14. Link to Poll
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 12:05 PM by douglas9
Bush’s job approval rating: Voters disapprove of the job George W. Bush is doing as president by
more than three to one - 23% to 73%, a new low in Times and Times/Bloomberg polling, and a
rating that places the president in rarified company. According to the Gallup poll, only two
previous modern presidents were given a vote of such low confidence by their constituents. In
February 1952, the Gallup poll found only 22% of Americans approved of the job Harry Truman
was doing as president at the time, and when Nixon left office in 1974 under the scandal cloud of
Watergate, his approval rating stood at 24%.

http://www.calendarlive.com/media/acrobat/2008-06/40351172.pdf
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:35 PM
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20. Thanks. And, of course, those two other low ratings led to a power shift.
Truman lost to Eisenhower. Nixon resigned and his pick, Ford, lost to Carter.

Absent massive fraud, we should get a major power shift this Fall, methinks.
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davekriss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 08:19 PM
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46. However...
...massive fraud will not be absent. Expect the worst.
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Edleft Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 12:50 PM
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17. He's a uniter
I am amazed that none of the articles point out how W has so totally united us.

23% for him, 73% against - that only leaves 4% undecided. That is astounding that so few people are left not declaring him a saint or a sinner.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:54 PM
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34. Welcome to DU
Nice first post! :hi:
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debunkthelies Donating Member (290 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 01:51 PM
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18. Damn...
is it really that high?:woohoo: :sarcasm:
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:40 PM
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22. Considering the poll was conducted in GOP headquarters...
Sounds about right to me.

:rofl:
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daggahead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 01:59 PM
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19. So?
BushCo don't care if they sink to 0.01% approval (the same percentage of the ultra-rich base). They simply don't care about anything but their control of power and money.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:40 PM
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21. As a related topic, a great site for watching *'s continuing slide into oblivion
http://pollkatz.homestead.com/

I especially recommend the Gasoline/Monkey Approval graph and the (upper left) Approval graph.

Just when you think he's hit absolute bottom, he slides still lower!
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Xenocrates Donating Member (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 02:52 PM
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23. Breaking News? What about drilling for oil?
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 02:53 PM by Xenocrates
So people continue to disapprove of Dubya? Who knew?

The poll, http://www.calendarlive.com/media/acrobat/2008-06/40351172.pdf ,brings up a more interesting question about whether Americans support opening more land for drilling? (See Q45A)

Dems: Do Not Allow, 31%; Allow with controls, 50%; Allow All, 10%; Don't Know 9%.
Reps: 24%; 55%; 13%; 8%.
Indies: 22%; 65%; 5%; 8%.
Male: 25%, 55%, 14%, 6%.
Female: 22%, 56%, 12%, 10%.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:49 PM
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30. Well, I think of it as news because it's CHANGING. This is a NEW low, and
most indicators I have looked at seem to imply that Mr. B, after leveling off for many months at the 30% level, has been starting a further slide over the last month or two toward the 20% level.

Two interesting things about this might be: a) why has this happened? and b) how might that be important to Dem strategy going forward.

I would suggest, as an interesting hypothesis, that perhaps Obama's relatively tough words against the BushCo policy (compared to Dem candidates of recent memory) have knocked a good-sized chink in the chimp's already tattered armor. Also, it kind of seems to me that Obama's popularity may have given some media types a little courage to begin standing up to the Rethugnican bullshit they've been so afraid of for the last decade or so. Just theories, but based on observation and logic and perhaps good food for thought.

As far as going forward, I would hope that this information (i.e. that *, already generally despised, is becoming significantly MORE so) would encourage more progressive stances and platforms on the part of Dems running for (and/or holding) office currently.

Also, as Obama referred to in his speech on race in Philadelphia a few months ago, there is an old leftie tendency to see American culture and politics as static when, in fact, they are dynamic. Bush had pretty lukewarm approval for his first nine months, became wildly popular after 9/11, began sliding quickly from that, was revived by the invasion of Iraq, fell some more, got a bump from the capture of Saddam, slid further, lost some after letting hundreds die after Katrina, bottomed out at 30% last summer, climbed slightly last winter, and now has begun to slide dramatically. See for a nice graphic of this.

As far as drilling goes, maybe we should take heart that, given some good leadership, people are actually capable of WAKING UP! (In that they ought to be thinking shift to alternative energy and don't drill, not drill with controls.)
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:43 PM
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27. Carter's lowest was 22%; well within the MOE.
Nixon's was 27%, iirc. And I think Truman's was the worst, at around 19%. How low will Bush go? If I was a betting man, I wouldn't got to single digits, quite. But 12-13% isn't out of the question.
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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:54 PM
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33. I think in Jan. ARG gave * 19% (see graph above).
Anyway, it's hard to compare across decades, not to mention across pollsters. Interesting to me is that * is getting MUCH WORSE since last winter, and well below his worst ever before last month.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:51 PM
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32. I wonder what Deadeye Dick's approval rating is...
We never hear that but surely it must get polled every now and then. I bet he's about 3%. Bill Kristol and people who are willing to get shot in the face comprise that group of patriots.


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DLnyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 03:59 PM
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35. WSJ 6/8 Dick (or Darth) Cheney Very Positive 6%, Somewhat Pos 17%
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 04:13 PM
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37. Must be 67-percent in Congress, though.
Otherwise, they would've impeached the traitor by now.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:49 PM
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42. LOL....
You know... you might just be right about that.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 06:15 PM
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41. As many as 23%? I know some of them, and they are starting to reconsider!
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 07:34 PM
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44. so why are dems in congress buckling under to him?
makes one wonder.
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flaminbats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 09:45 PM
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48. Most conservatives are embarrassed
Bush came in with every advantage..a budget surplus, a strong economy, and strong public support after 9/11. He wasted the budget surplus on tax cuts which did nothing to stimulate the economy. He used support from 9/11 to go on a nation-building binge in Afghanistan and Iraq. even conservatives have lost faith in their agenda now that we are trillions more in debt, sinking deeper into stagflation, and suffering under the iron grip of the Patriot Act and FISA .

Conservatives once claimed that nation building wasn't a role the founding fathers intended for government, now Republicans like Scott McClennan refuse to defend an administration which makes this the central role of the federal government. Conservatives once blamed the high taxes and price controls of the 70's for stagflation, now the gas prices of the Carter years look like paradise for most voters! Conservatives once warned us of the dangers of gun control and centralized government, now Bush portrays gun ownership and privacy as nothing more but effective tools for potential terrorists. :scared:

Most Republicans can't tell you what a conservative is, Bush is a patriotic nightmare come true. Those who still support Bush are not conservative, they are the fascist core of a rotten apple.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-25-08 10:50 PM
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49. Feels like it should really be .023% -- !!!
Edited on Wed Jun-25-08 10:51 PM by defendandprotect
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