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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:51 PM
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Ashcroft Praises Austrian Police Unit
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-3675593,00.html


Ashcroft Praises Austrian Police Unit
Thanks for the complete obliviousness to the irony, Heinrich!



From the Associated Press

Ashcroft Praises Austrian Police Unit


Tuesday January 27, 2004 6:16 PM


By WILLIAM J. KOLE

Associated Press Writer

WIENER NEUSTADT, Austria (AP) - An armed police commando rappelled down a concrete practice tower Tuesday and kicked in a plate-glass window. ``What a way to get in!'' U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft exclaimed.

Ashcroft, wrapping up a three-day visit to Austria, used the stop at a military base to hold up the country's elite Cobra police unit as an example of the resolve he said is needed to keep terrorists at bay.
(snip)

``The defense of freedom always requires courage and determination,'' the attorney general said after Cobras clad in body armor used their bare hands to scale the tower in subfreezing temperatures at their training camp in Wiener Neustadt, 40 miles south of Vienna.

``Good job! No blood!'' he said as shards of window glass showered the pavement below.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, the United States expanded its force of sky marshals - law enforcement officials who are trained to stop hijackings. The Bush administration intends to require foreign airlines to put armed agents on certain U.S.-bound flights.

Since the attacks, Austria and the United States have shared information on training and deploying sky marshals, who wear civilian clothes and carry special bullets designed to kill without penetrating the metal skin of an aircraft.

Cobra agents have flown undercover aboard more than 40,000 Austrian flights to the Middle East since 1981.

``Ve look forward to learning from Austria and working vis Austria,'' Ashcroft said.

(snip)
The U.S. government's decision to impose marshal requirements on foreign airlines serving key American cities has sparked some opposition in Europe.


(snip)
Asked if the ruling dealt a setback to his anti-terrorism initiatives, Ashcroft said: ``I haven't read the decision. The courts from time to time ...,'' before pausing and declining to elaborate.

Ashcroft has come under fire from civil liberties groups, members of Congress and others who contend the Patriot Act, enacted after Sept. 11, is too intrusive.

Critics cite provisions that let federal agents secretly seize library reading lists and other personal records.
Guardian Unlimited © Guardian Newspapers Limited 2004
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:53 PM
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1. Let us remember that Adolf was born in Austria
Maybe Asscroft went there to get inspiration......
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eek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 07:37 PM
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18. err..yeah. That's why I referred to him as "Heinrich'
as in Heinrich Himmler.
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Dark Star Donating Member (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:54 PM
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2. .
:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 02:55 PM
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3. he is one sick f***
I mean, seriously
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:02 PM
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4. Kristallnacht...the night of the broken glass...asscroft is following
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 03:56 PM by amen1234



hitler's mein kampf exactly....


Reinhardt Heydrich, the man who felt it was his duty "to save the world from intellectual and moral decay"


Jewish shops broken up by hitler's secret police, under orders from hitler's attorney general, Heydrich...."to save the world from intellectual and moral decay"....

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/kristalltoc.html


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/kristallnacht_order.html
orders from SS-Grupenführer Heydrich to all State Police Main Offices and Field Offices, November 10 1938 (before Kristallnacht, the "night of broken glass," the first large scale pogrom against the Jews).

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Secret

Copy of Most Urgent telegram from Munich, of November 10, 1938, 1:20 A.M.

To

All Headquarters and Stations of the State Police

All districts and Sub-districts of the SD

Urgent! For immediate attention of Chief or his deputy!

Re: Measures against Jews tonight

Following the attempt on the life of Secretary of the Legation vom Rath in Paris, demonstrations against the Jews are to be expected in all parts of the Reich in the course of the coming night, November 9/10, 1938. The instructions below are to be applied in dealing with these events:

1. The Chiefs of the State Police, or their deputies, must immediately upon receipt of this telegram contact, by telephone, the political leaders in their areas – Gauleiter or Kreisleiter  who have jurisdiction in their districts and arrange a joint meeting with the inspector or commander of the Order Police to discuss the arrangements for the demonstrations. At these discussions the political leaders will be informed that the German Police has received instructions, detailed below, from the Reichsfuehrer SS and the Chief of the German Police, with which the political leadership is requested to coordinate its own measures:

a) Only such measures are to be taken as do not endanger German lives or property (i.e., synagogues are to be burned down only where there is no danger of fire in neighboring buildings).

b) Places of business and apartments belonging to Jews may be destroyed but not looted. The police is instructed to supervise the observance of this order and to arrest looters.

c) In commercial streets particular care is to be taken that non-Jewish businesses are completely protected against damage.

d) Foreign citizens – even if they are Jews – are not to be molested.

2. On the assumption that the guidelines detailed under para. 1 are observed, the demonstrations are not to be prevented by the Police, which is only to supervise the observance of the guidelines.

3. On receipt of this telegram Police will seize all archives to be found in all synagogues and offices of the Jewish communities so as to prevent their destruction during the demonstrations. This refers only to material of historical value, not to contemporary tax records, etc. The archives are to be handed over to the locally responsible officers of the SD.

4. The control of the measures of the Security Police concerning the demonstrations against the Jews is vested in the organs of the State Police, unless inspectors of the Security Police have given their own instructions. Officials of the Criminal Police, members of the SD, of the Reserves and the SS in general may be used to carry out the measures taken by the Security Police.

5. As soon as the course of events during the night permits the release of the officials required, as many Jews in all districts – especially the rich – as can be accommodated in existing prisons are to be arrested. For the time being only healthy male Jews, who are not too old, are to be detained. After the detentions have been carried out the appropriate concentration camps are to be contacted immediately for the prompt accommodation of the Jews in the camps. Special care is to be taken that the Jews arrested in accordance with these instructions are not ill-treated....

signed Heydrich,

SS Gruppenfuehrer


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


By April 1934, Heydrich ran the Prussian Gestapo, the largest political police force in the Reich, also known as the Security Police.

Since the war, the man who felt it was his duty "to save the world from intellectual and moral decay" (13) has become notorious as one of the most heinous Nazi war criminals of the Holocaust. The surviving comrades of Heydrich's assassins erected a monument in their honor.

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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:45 PM
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9. Wow, what a post!
There was to be a lecture at the near by university on that anniversary but it got axed much to our dismay. Thank you. Where'd you get a copy of that telegram?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:14 PM
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14. (link) and another photo of 'night of the Broken Glass"
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 06:59 PM by amen1234
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/kristalltoc.html




broken glass in Jewish stores...Berlin 1938

here is a very good explanation of everything that hitler did...how he assumed power, hitler's financiers, the Public Relations spinners, the media control...and the KILLING...

those who spoke out, those who went along with hitler, those who fled, those who were silent and therefore accepting...it's all here...a very good site for Holocaust information

although the site does not mention that one of hitler's financiers was bush*'s grandfather, Prescott Bush, convicted of 'Trading with the Enemy (hitler)'

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/holo.html



The burned-out synagogue of Aachen, Germany,
one of nearly 200 synagogues destroyed during Kristallnacht.



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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:27 PM
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15. Thank you for the reminder -
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:25 PM
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5. Truly a sick and dangerous man.
'Ve vould like to know more about your methods of kicking in ze vindows und shtomping on ze heads of people who resist us.'
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:01 PM
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7. why is asscroft watching Krystallnacht demos in hitler's Austria??
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 04:07 PM by amen1234

seems to me that the Attorney General only has DOMESTIC authority over the FBI and has nothing to do with INTERNATIONAL stuff...does asscroft's authority extend to INTERNATIONAL policing? can someone clarify this????



has asscroft made any progress at all in his required DOMESTIC duty to find and prosecute the Anthrax KILLER(s)??

...isn't it odd that after TWO years, asscroft has made absolutely NO progress to find these murderer(s) who tried to KILL a U.S. Senator, and actually did kill several FEDERAL EMPLOYEES????


-more snips from the Guardian article-

Ashcroft has come under fire from civil liberties groups, members of Congress and others who contend the Patriot Act, enacted after Sept. 11, is too intrusive.

Critics cite provisions that let federal agents secretly seize library reading lists and other personal records.

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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 03:59 PM
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6. You're funny!
"Thanks for the complete obliviousness to the irony, Heinrich!"

"``Ve look forward to learning from Austria and working vis Austria,'' Ashcroft said."

However, that should be 'vorking'.

ROFL.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:14 PM
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8. How much more evidence do we need?
Month after month.......year after year he causes controversy. This person demonstrates his complete ineptitude for the job. Why isn't the media questioning Bush's weird decision to choose him?
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:51 PM
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10. So which Austrian police officers came in for special praise?
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 04:51 PM by hatrack
Did Artur Seyss-Inquart get the gold star, or did Ashcroft award it to Ernst Kaltenbrunner?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:52 PM
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17. photos of ernst and artur...notice how closely bush* follows hitler
Edited on Tue Jan-27-04 06:54 PM by amen1234
these bios and photos are from the Nuremburg trials


ernst kaltenbrunn

In the magazine of the SIPO and SD, issue of 15 May 1943, it is stated:

"It redounds to his credit that in this important position he succeeded through energetic leadership in maintaining the unity of the Austrian SS, which he had built up, in spite of all persecution, and succeeded in committing it successfully at the right moment.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Kaltenbrunner.html


artur seyss-inquart

I had a conversation of over two hours with the Fuehrer on 17 February 1938, in which I explained to him my point of view. I would only be able to make statements about the content of this conversation if the Fuehrer would grant me permission. I left this discussion as a very sincere man and with a feeling of great happiness to be of help to the Fuehrer." (3271- PS)
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/Seyss_Inquart.html

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ScotTissue Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 04:55 PM
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11. As a poster of Austrian descent....
I can do without the stereotypical implication that all Austrians are Nazis and that a modern, elite police squad in Austria is necessarily a unit of 1932 stormtroopers.

Please.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 05:24 PM
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12. Ashcroft has this effect upon us....
There is nothing wrong with the police unit, but our Attorney General's response is worrisome. The memory of how the great nations of Germany & Austria succumbed to National Socialism haunts us now, in our great nation.

A thread in the DU lounge mentions that today is the birthday of Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart. The work of this great Austrian will continue to bring joy to the planet long after the Republican fools are dust.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:33 PM
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16. & bush* grandpa was CONVICTED of 'trading with the enemy' hitler


bush*s grandpa, prescott bush, was CONVICTED of 'trading with the enemy' hitler...prescott bush provided the finances and personally supervised Jewish slave labor at Auswitz....from that business, prescott made a million and half dollars (a HUGE amount of money in the 1950's, which was used to finance the bush1 rise to power as the US President)....

bush* inherits all that blood money, and President of the Florida Holocaust Museum has suggested that reparations are required (reparations would require that bush* blood money inheritance be given to the Holocaust survivors and families of those murdered with prescott's financial assistance and supervision...

the victims of prescott's criminal activities)....read the whole sordid details in this artical, written with the President of the Florida Holocaust Museum....

http://www.clamormagazine.org/bush.pdf
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-27-04 06:06 PM
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13. it frightens us, here in America, that we too are falling like you did

so much public relations spin, our civil rights removed by our attorney general under the U.S.A.P.A.T.R.I.O.T Act...

many of our citizens 'disappears' into government custody, without access to attorneys, their families have no idea where they are, there are no charges, and no public trials...just gone...thousands of American citizens were seized after 9/11 and we do not know why or where they are...no public trials allowed....

we are NOT trying to attack Austria, which has made major efforts to overcome such a ghastly history...but we are trying to keep it from happening here, because we feel on the brink of re-living such horrors....sadly, it seems so easy, nobody pays attention, the public cheers for a non-elected pResident and the elevation of bush* to being sent by God to attack Iraq...even in bush* own words: a crusade....
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