McGovern, former Clinton backer, endorses Obama

[babylonsister]

Source: AP

http://www.kxmc.com/News/236037.asp

McGovern, former Clinton backer, endorses Obama

May 7 2008 9:56AM


By DENNIS GALE Associated Press Writer SIOUX FALLS, S.D.

(AP) Former Sen. George McGovern, an early supporter of Hillary Clinton, is urging her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race.

McGovern says he has decided to endorse Barack Obama.

After watching the returns from the North Carolina and Indiana primaries Tuesday night, McGovern says it's virtually impossible for Clinton to win the nomination.

McGovern says he is calling former President Clinton to tell him of the decision and adds that he remains close friends with the Clintons.

That is all.


Read more: http://www.kxmc.com/News/236037.asp

[YDogg]

1. sweet

[nichomachus]

2. The party elders are sending the gentlest messages they can

Let's hope the Clintons take the hint before someone has to take off the gloves

[Better Today]

3. My first post ever, Great NEWS!

I've just recently been sent to this site by a friend. I haven't registered because I was afraid I would partake in the vitriol against the Clinton supporters. But as of last evening, well, my USERid says it all.

[livetohike]

5. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Better Today]

7. Thanks!

[NorthCarolina]

21. Welcome to DU

:hi:

[FatDave]

27. Welcome Better Today

Tomorrow may be even better yet.

[NikolaC]

43. Welcome To DU

:hi: and grats on the first post.

[lonestarnot]

51. Cool.

Welcome to DU! :hi:

[livetohike]

4. I worked hard on campus back in 1972 for McGovern

that's why Obama's campaign makes me smile so much. It reminds me of my youth....

I hope the Clinton's will take his advice.

[Jackpine Radical]

37. Indeed I remember those days.

I was a grad student, a few years back from Vietnam, and out campaigning for George. Odd--I stumped a lot with another grad student I had recruited to the campaign. She switched from an academic career as a developmental psychologist to one as a business professor (I&O Development-type courses). I just recently ran across her name when I was searching for something else. In 2007 she made a fairly substantial contribution to Huckabee. It floored me. Wow. Mary, what happened to you?

[livetohike]

58. I was a Sophomore and went out stumping with a Senior

who was the Pres. of the Student Govt. Assoc. A few years ago,I read in an alumni magazine that he ran for Congress (Dem), but lost.

Yeah, what happened to a lot of our generation??? Where the heck is everybody?

[ptolle]

61. same story

Same story here although evidently I didn't get as good a jump on the educational process. I was 5 years back from indian country undergrad and really my first political involvement. Busted my hump for the old Liberator pilot even though I had a good inkling of which way things would go. All the results did was energize me to stay involved and realize that maybe Clarence Darrow was right and that "lost causes are the only ones worth fighting for". And maybe a bit like another poster above part of my attraction to the Obama campaign is that it does remind me of those heady days. And really it has to be said that either of the two Democratic candidates are infinitely preferable to Mcinane.

[barnel]

6. she's sticking her neck out with the 5 million self loan

it puts her in the possible future position of being a very rich person passing the hat to people who may feel she cost democrats the election to pay for a debt to herself

i know what my answer would be 'you're still a lot richer than I am, thanks in part to your support of H-1b and outsourcing'

[Imagevision]

8. Looking better every day, GOP doesn't want to go against Obama...

[ToughLuck]

9. Amazing how terrified they are of Obama. We need to be ready for the attack dogs.

[bdamomma]

40. just shows what cowards the repigs are.

[ckramer]

10. McGovern, former Clinton backer, urges her to drop out

Source: yn

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. - Former Sen. George McGovern, who backed Hillary Rodham Clinton, is urging her to drop out of the Democratic presidential race.

McGovern said Wednesday he has decided to endorse Barack Obama.

After watching the returns from the North Carolina and Indiana primaries Tuesday night, McGovern says it's virtually impossible for Clinton to win the nomination.

McGovern says he is calling former President Clinton to tell him of the decision and adds that he remains close friends with the Clintons.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080507/ap_on_el_pr/mcgovern_clinton

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It made sense.

Hillary needs learn a lesson from Mitt Romney. She's too smart to make a right/correct political move.

[LakeSamish706]

11. She just won't go away... Like a dog with a bone... Geez.. What the hell is...

it going to take to get her out of this thing?

[BRLIB]

20. It's that "testicular bite"- lockjaw, that Rush warns about.

Or used to, since he is now her favorite fan!

[catalinacat]

67. SINCE

when did you believe anything Rush said??!! That's how far gone you obamaniacs are.

[natrat]

24. who knows what her deal is ? sure is mirky though

[GoneOffShore]

25. I had some mirky once, it's pretty tasty.

Sorry, but it's "murky" -

I'm a spelling freak, what can I say.

Besides we don't want our friends the Moran's to pick up on these things, do we?

[ckramer]

12. haha I beat babylonsister by 2 minutes

oh sorry, actually hers was earlier than mine.

[suston96]

13. McGovern? I remember him. He should know. He won only Massachusetts and DC in 1972?.....

...He is an authority. Listen to him, Hillary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._presidential_election,_1972

Uh, those days blue was Republican. Use your magnifying glass to look for the McGovern wins.

Also check out this:

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Clinton/Maps/May07.html

http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May07.html

[Warpy]

15. Yeah, but it felt good to sport one of those

"Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts!" bumper stickers for the next 4 years, even though I'd been living in DC when I cast the vote and moved back to Massachusetts right after it.

Face it, we were right and the rest of the country was wrong.

Clinton can't win now unless there is a miracle last minute conversion of all Obama's superdelegates away from him. That is unlikely, to say the very least, and would provoke a tremendous amount of acrimony within the party. She'd gain the nomination but lose a huge amount of support from people who would see a parallel between that and the BFEE's dirty dealings to get Stupid into office.

I really wanted to like Clinton. I knew her voting record closely resembled Obama's and that she had a slightly better health plan (although Edwards had the best). I knew she was a good, solid candidate. Unfortunately, her DLC election team got desperate and started to hand out the sort of advice--which she took--that sank both the Gore and Kerry campaigns, that of pandering to conservatives instead of her own party.

It really is time for her to quit the race for the good of the party and ultimately for the good of the country. She will likely be in a very good spot in 2012, as the winner of this election will be blamed for all the hardships arising from 8 years of Stupid's fiscal bungling, so her loss will be minimal.

When she comes back in 2012, one hopes she will have left this deplorable campaign team behind. The country will be more than ready to vote for her.

[ckramer]

17. agree - but 2012? don't you think Obama would have the 2nd term?

but meanwhile, Hillary will have plenty of time contemplating on her erroneous stand on war the next 4 - 8 years.

[Warpy]

18. No one will get a second term

because the problems are massive and systemic and the pain that people who work for a living are going to feel is just beginning.

Governments are reactive and don't tend to fix basic, systemic flaws until their collective back is against the wall and angry mobs are at the gate. That bodes very ill for a second term for anyone right now.

Clinton would be in a perfect position to swoop in on her husband's record of peace and prosperity in 2012.

[kay1864]

16. McGovern? I remember him. He was in Congress for TWENTY-FOUR YEARS.

But heck, what does he know?

:eyes:

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[FatDave]

28. Somebody wake up on the wrong side of Indiana?

[ronnykmarshall]

30. Excuse me?

You want to expand on that?

[FatDave]

52. *sigh*

It was a play on "woke up on the wrong side of bed". As if to say you are cranky because last night's primary didn't go as you'd hoped. I don't remember exactly what your now deleted post said, but I believe it was along the lines of "shut the fuck up" in reply to some fairly innocuous praising of George McGovern. It was an obvious lashing out, and I attempted to call you on it. In the future, I'll try to speak more simplistically to you so there's no confusion.

[krkaufman]

36. chuckle. great line. n/t

[Megahurtz]

69. Lol!

:D

[awoke_in_2003]

29. who the hell are you

to be telling people what to do? If you don't like what someone says, put them on ignore.

[ronnykmarshall]

31. Excuse the fuck out of me.

But back when McGovern endorsed Hillary he was attacked by supporters of Obama and Edwards and it pissed me off.

I don't agree with what McGovern is doing since I'm a Hillary supporter, but I sure as hell won't stand by and see him trashed again.

And if YOU don't like what I said, I suggest you put me on ignore.

[snooper2]

32. now now now...

no need to be bitter :rofl:







GOBAMA!

[femmedem]

35. I think you misread the poster you replied to.

No McGovern-trashing going on there.

[ronnykmarshall]

53. I did and I'm sorry for that.

I don't want to see anyone trashing McG.

[krkaufman]

38. Ummm... then you should direct your energy at someone who was trashing McGovern ...

... instead of someone who was defending him. (Note the rolly eyes. The post to which you replied was a sarcastic shot at an earlier post in the thread, here, deriding McGovern's 1972 GE performance.)

[awoke_in_2003]

39. Oh, I see what you were doing now

but I think you aimed your comment at the wrong post. Post 13 made light of McGovern's career, and post #16 (whom you replied to) made not of his long congressional career. Don't know about you, but I can't wait until these primaries are finished, regardless of the candidate.

[ronnykmarshall]

54. I did and I'm sorry.

I knew when I ready the post about McGovern people would start trashing him like they did when he first endorsed Hillary.

I'm sorry for that.

[awoke_in_2003]

59. No problems

I got a bit snippy too. It is hard to be otherwise around here lately. There are a lot of shit stirrers here lately, and we sometimes get pulled offsides by them. My apologies, also.

[catalinacat]

66. I voted

for mcgovern too but I don't admire anyone that bows down under pressure and switches. He supported clinton as a gut reaction, now he wants to look good so he's switching, there is no good reason for him to do that now. He's taking the easy way out, just like the black civil rights icon Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), that supported Clinton at first, and then switched because of all the pressure from his black constituents and the obama campaign. That is NOTHING to admire. It's amazing how money talks isn't it, lets follow the money, that's what it's all about. It doesn't matter that the obama campaign tells you how to THINK.

Hillary is tougher than both of them put together.

[Freedom Train]

72. You are right on the money here.

Sad...

[Krashkopf]

22. George McGovern put being RIGHT on Viet Nam ahead of winning the election.

Hillary needs to put the interests of the Democratic Party ahead of her own.

[CANDO]

42. Electoral votes are for the GENERAL election....

in case you didn't know. In this PRIMARY contest she is having her ass handed to her. It's over. Throw your tantrum and get your head on straight and support your country by supporting the Democratic nominee. This was never going to be Hillary's coronation. I and many millions more like me, who are hard core Democrats, will never forget the royal screwing the working class took from Bill and his DLC cronies giving us NAFTA. Now why the hell would I take another chance with his wife? Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Not this Teamster. Not this Navy Veteran.

[klook]

57. "There's an old saying in Tennessee..."

"I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me (l-o-o-ong pause) - you can't get fooled again."

Just wanted to provide the correct text of the homily you referred to. :evilgrin:

I agree with your comments about not needing another DLC regime, although (after a few weeks of hand-wringing and throwing things at the TV) I would have eventually mustered up the resolve to support Clinton in the GE against McAint. I'm very glad I instead get to support a candidate I feel good about.

[wilt the stilt]

14. A true American hero

McGovern was my first vote and by my estimate one of the classiest people ever. I wish he had become President. A truly moral man who would have changed the course of America for the better.

[llmart]

60. Mine too.

My husband voted for Nixon and I'm still rubbing it in:)

[krkaufman]

34. "She's too smart to make a right/correct political move."

Huh?

[KillCapitalism]

19. Nice.

I want her to drop out as soon as possible. We don't need her & McCain (two republicans) running against each other.

[GoneOffShore]

26. Thank you Senator McGovern.

K&R

[RufusTFirefly]

33. My first political hero

I worked my heart out for George McGovern in 1972, staffing booths at local fairs, licking envelopes, and knocking on hundreds of doors. Although it would be another five years before I was old enough to vote, no candidate since has inspired me like George McGovern did.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

41. Well, now my father can stop yelling at Keith every night.......

....."WHO DID MCGOVERN ENDORSE, KEITH??? WHY DON'T YOU REPORT THAT???"

[Krashkopf]

44. George McGovern, former Clinton backer, urges her to drop out

Source: Associated Press

Duplicate - withdrawn

Read more: http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90GS75G0&show_article=1

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Duplicate - withdrawn.

[gateley]

45. "McGovern says he is calling former President Clinton

to tell him of the decision and adds that he remains close friends with the Clintons."

He THINKS he remains close friends with the Clintons. I wouldn't bet on it. Wonder if they're still close friends with Ted Kennedy?

[asjr]

56. Interesting that he called Bill and not

Hillary. I am sure he remains close friends with Hillary, but after all she is a woman. Some people who are oldtimers in the Democratic party seem to think they carry a lot of weight. I used to like McGovern but he could have kept it to himself. Now he has only drawn attention to himself and probably made Hillary mad as a hornet. I still don't like it when someone wants someone else to give up before the race is over. I remember when they chose the nominee at the convention. He could have waited before betraying Hillary Clinton.

[gateley]

71. There has to be a reason --

or some reasoning -- on the part of these people who are coming out and switching like this.

McGovern has nothing to gain at this point in his life, so I wonder what the motivation is?

I keep hearing that it always used to go to the convention, so again, I wonder what is it about THIS election that is making these people come out and encourage an end to this race. Even Diane Feinstein. I'm not sure what has made this time so different. :shrug:

[Lucky 13]

46. Interesting.

Think he will have any effect?

[99th_Monkey]

47. Hey, you beat me to it! I was just going to post this from Raw Story... GOBAMA!!

George McGovern defects, calls for Clinton to drop out
Beverly Davis
Published: Wednesday May 7, 2008

Ex-Clinton consultant cheers McGovern's 'guts'

Former South Darkota Senator George McGovern has reversed his endorsement of Senator Hillary Clinton and urged her to drop out of the race for president following her showing in Indiana and North Carolina.

McGovern says he now endorses Barack Obama. He was the Democratic nominee in 1972, when he lost to then-President Richard Nixon.

McGovern himself was instrumental in the current nominating process, which weighs caucuses and primaries more heavily than superdelegates. The 85-year-old Democrat was named chairman of a Democratic Commission on Party Structure and Delegate Selection in 1969. In part, due to his urging, the commission cut back the power of party officials and insiders and increased the roles of caucuses and primaries.
Ex-Clinton White House strategist lauds call

"Bully for him for having the guts, wisdom, and leadership to say it because that's what's on the minds of a lot of people in the party these days and they don't have the guts to say that they don't want Hillary to be the Democratic nominee," Kitty Kurth, a former Clinton White House consultant and Democratic strategist from Chicago, told RAW STORY Wednesday. "That doesn't mean that we like Bill or Hillary any less. It's just that different times call for different leadership."
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/George_McGovern_defects_calls_for_Clinton_0507.html

[indio55555]

48. Lock your doors at night McGovern.

[dsharp88]

49. OT - My former college professor!!

McGovern taught a class - History of the Presidency since WWII - at the University of New Orleans about 20 years ago. I was lucky enough to get in that class and also interview him as I was Editor of the student newspaper. He was (and, I'm sure, still is) an extremely smart and kind man.

Way to go, Senator!

[no1dolo]

50. Now if he was an actual SD instead of just being from S.D. n/t

[pjt7]

55. McGovern is a good

man & his words are very clear & honest.

[no1dolo]

62. Agreed..but BO needs superdelegates right now. This endorsement should help with other SDs.

[babylonsister]

68. He helped, I'm thinking:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5870078

[ekwhite]

63. George McGovern was the first presidential candidate I ever voted for

way back in 1972. His endorsement means a lot to me. Good for you George! :yourock:

[EdieUNN]

64. I am so glad............

that Sen. McGovern has seen the like; Hillary has no one to blame but herself and the team, including Bill, she uses. They are the most craven and cynical gang I've seen in years.
Day after day Sen. Clinton is abandoned; the longer she runs the less they, and we, can believe in her.

[pjt7]

65. It's up to superdelegates to endorse

Obama immediately & Clinton supporters that are big enough to get behind the Democratic choice.

[Faux pas]

70. I was thrilled silly when I watched McGovern! He said it was

time for the party to UNITE. Sounds like sage advice to me....Hillary(?)...hint, hint. He had already spoken to Willy by then. The moran news woman asked McGovern if Bill was mad at him. Duh, like even if he was, did she really think that old George was going to bust out with, 'yeah, he was pissed as hell.' LOL

I'm dancing here on the left coast. :woohoo: