'Vast right-wing conspiracy' leader's paper backs Clinton

[RamboLiberal]

Source: AP

Could it be the "vast right wing conspiracy" is having second thoughts? Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton was endorsed Sunday by the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, whose owner and publisher, billionaire Richard Mellon Scaife, personally funded many of the investigations that led to President Clinton's impeachment in 1998.

It was one of a handful of endorsements the New York senator has received from Pennsylvania newspapers before the state's primary Tuesday. Most of the state's major papers have endorsed Barack Obama.

In its endorsement, Tribune-Review editors said Obama is too inexperienced to be president and that his recent comments about bitter voters living in small towns showed a lack of respect for middle-class values.

"In sharp contrast, Clinton is far more experienced in government — as an engaged first lady to a governor and a president, as a second-term senator in her own right," the paper said. "She has a real voting record on key issues. Agree with her or not, you at least know where she stands instead of being forced to wonder."

Clinton met with the Tribune-Review's editorial board, including Scaife, last month. Afterward, Scaife wrote an editorial titled "Hillary, Reassessed," declaring how impressed he had been by the former first lady.



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Hell has frozen over.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

1. she's become what she hated

She is part of that vast right wing conspiracy.

This is a huge shame, because when the Clintons left the White House they still had good
standing as democrats. (To a degree, except for those people close to them and who were burned by them).

Now this effort to regain the White House for the Clinton name has blown up on them.

[RamboLiberal]

2. BTW here's what Pittsburgh Post-Gazette said today

Obama's moment: On Tuesday, Democrats should dare to be different

In this old commonwealth, the past throws a long shadow and what is familiar tends to muscle aside the promise of change. As Pennsylvania Democrats approach Tuesday's primary, they need to meet the historic moment with the historic courage it demands.

The safe and timid choice would be Sen. Hillary Clinton. Not surprisingly, the former first lady and senator from New York has the support of the familiar forces of the status quo -- party relics and old-style politicians for whom tomorrow is more about today and yesterday, the same old same old.

To be sure, Mrs. Clinton would make her own history if she were nominated and became president as the first woman to reach such heights. And as we observed in Wednesday's editorial endorsing Sen. Barack Obama, Mrs. Clinton is thoughtful, well-versed on the issues and generally qualified to be president.

But Mrs. Clinton is yesterday's woman too, one part of a two-part act with her husband. While the presidency of Bill Clinton may seem a glorious time of peace and prosperity to Americans still suffering the disastrous reign of George W. Bush, the reality was not so rosy. The Clinton years were leadership delivered as soap opera with bitter, partisan division being its stage.

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With Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama differing little on the issues, Democrats can dare to be different and vote for the truly fresh force in this race, the one who has sparked an excitement and energy not seen since the Kennedy years. The bold choice is Barack Obama, who is uniquely placed to bridge America's most bitter divisions. History now calls on Pennsylvania to lead this nation into the future -- and all it requires is the courage to believe.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08111/874707-192.stm

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

6. "soap opera with bitter, partisan division "

thats what some call "Clinton fatigue".

[Liberal Gramma]

12. That's what happens when ambition overtakes integrity.

[SteveM]

3. Good post (nt)

[Dr.Phool]

4. Murdoch, now Scaife. What more could you ask for?

You'd think Lieberman would wise up by now,:sarcasm:

[natrat]

5. she is like a bad distasteful joke

[cstanleytech]

7. Some of you might wanna take a step back.

You are falling into the trap that those on the far right are laying which is to try and divide the party early on, my advice is relax and let the vote continue and if Hillary wins so be it or if Obama wins same thing but dont be foolish and fall for the far rights trick.

[Shoelace]

8. amen to that, Rove must be laughing through his turd blossom

at how easy it is to divide us.

[Canuckistanian]

14. Rush Limbaugh is open about it - he supports Hillary

His "Operation Chaos" is supposed to further division in the "Democrat Party" (I think he has a mental defect that prevents him from saying Democratic.)

Toally ineffectual of course, because rabid RWers are VASTLY outnumbered by the enthusiastic and motivated Democratic supporters.

[Mz Pip]

9. But will they endorse her

in November? I kind of doubt it.

[RamboLiberal]

10. They will do for her what they did for Gore in 2000

In the final days of the 2000 presidential campaign, Pittsburgh Tribune-Review publisher Richard Mellon Scaife, a longtime conservative activist, ordered all photographs and prominent mentions of Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore removed from the front page of the paper. As a result, the paper’s pre-election Sunday edition had a front page featuring George W. Bush in every campaign-related headline and photograph. A story about a Gore rally held in Pittsburgh, originally slated to run alongside a Bush piece on the front page, was moved to the inside of the paper. According to an account in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Tribune-Review managing editor Robert Fryer ‘tried to dissuade Scaife but was overruled.’

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/395.html

[Mz Pip]

13. I wouldn't be surprised

if he did the same to Clinton, if she's the nominee. Reminds me of the story of the fox that sweetly convinces a poor critter to let him carry him across the river. Before they get to the other side he tell the critter that he's going to eat him. THe shocked critter doesn't undertand the fox's change of heart. THe fox says, "You knew I was a fox when you climbed on."

I don't trust, Scaiffe, Murdoch, Ailes or any of them. These guys are hard core foxes.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

11. When I saw the reports

of Hillary meeting with Scaife, I really thought it was a joke.

But it wasn't.

So now we know that Monica wasn't the only fellatrix in the Clinton White House.

[roamer65]

15. Scaife is something right out of a dog's ass...

whoops...sorry that is really insulting to dogs.:silly:

[Vogon_Glory]

16. Scaife Likes His Money

There was an interesting article on Richard Mellon Scaife in Vanity Fair magazine not too long ago. One of the things that has turned up about Richard Mellon Scaife is that he likes his money and, like other right-wingers, he hates paying taxes. He hated paying even Clinton's modest taxes during the 1990's so much that he became the VRC's major sugar-daddy. Since then, according to the article in Vanity Fair, it's dawned on the old boy that today's crop of right-wing Republicans, the guys he funded and helped organized, are fiscally irresponsible and incompetent at governing. So, in order to keep his money (Although just how long Scaife is likely to last into President 44's or even President 45's term of office is up for doubt), he's decided that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the best candidate available this year, even including the various Rethugs who ran for the nomination this year.

Scaife has made no apologies, shown no remorse for what he put the country through, but he's decided that the Rethuglies he helped finance are incompetent. Scaife's erstwhile proteges' incompetence would affect his wealth, either through currency devaluation, inflation, or by causing the economy to tumble into turnmoil. Such a fine, high-minded sense of civic responsibility towards the great American Republic! We are truly indebted to this man. :sarcasm:

I will leave it to Renaissance scholars and Comp Lit majors to describe where Dante placed people like Scaife in the afterlife.

:grr:

[area51]

17. Shocked.

I'm shocked, shocked, I tell you, that a member of the nazi party endorsed Hillary Rightwing Clinton, who wants to give us Newt Gingrich's idea of forcing people at gunpoint to buy rightwing health insurance, and who also wants to give American jobs to foreigners. What possible reasons would rightwingers have for voting for her? :eyes:

[calimary]

18. Hot damn, there it is again! That keyphrase that all of these black-or-white, this-or-that,

you're-with-us-or-you're-ag'in-us, either-or thinkers is "agree with her or not, you at least know where she stands..."

Holy Cow! bush said that over and over when he was running for election in 2004, "you may not agree with me but you know where I stand." And, incredibly, people bought this! They actually bought that. Like they repeatedly bought reagan even though his ideas and policies generally resulted in one giant hose-job on the poor, needy, middle-class, unions and union workers, and basically anyone who wasn't in the elite one percent of the one percent.

This mentality is REALLY IMPORTANT to keep in mind. This mentality is a huge voting bloc. This is the mentality that helps to explain why people vote against their best interests. Somehow they've come to believe that certainty, just by itself, is everything. Nobody ever takes the next step and asks - what's that certainty about? Perhaps feeling as though you're correct is more important than actually being correct. Feeling - when they say "I dunno, I just like him." That's a siren going off, to me. We've GOT to pay attention to that simplistic, non-analytical, surface-only, knee-jerk mentality where they not only don't know the facts, they don't even WANT to know the facts. They just aren't interested. Perhaps it's too much "hard werk."

We've got to be on guard when up against that mentality. It is powerful, it's pervasive, and it's something we simply have to deal with. If we can communicate that sense of certainty, we'll get more of them.

I do have to say this, though - I think it took extreme guts and confidence for her even to enter the same room with richard mellon scaife, much less engage in civil discourse with such a beast. After everything he did and tried to do to make life miserable for her and her husband - I find that something to be admired. I also find it intriguing that she seems to have turned his mind around on her. This is interesting to me because I'm wondering how it might be applied to an enemy offshore - and we HAVE to start talking to people overseas who are against us. We have to talk to everybody. EVERYBODY. We HAVE to reach out. And I appreciate this particular manifestation. If she can have a meeting of the minds with as big an adversarial schmuck as scaife, I wonder what might happen if we put her in the same room with Ahmedinejad? Or Hugo Chavez? Or Kim Jong-il? There are increasing numbers of powerful and prominent people in the world whose minds, and whose distrust and revulsion of us - HAVE TO BE TURNED AROUND! Their now-deeply ingrained dislike of us HAS TO BE TURNED AROUND!!! And soon!!! So I like seeing this. If she winds up being the nominee, this is one of the things that will allow me to vote for her without holding my nose.

I can see how this can be viewed as a revoltin' development. I can see how distressing this comes off to many of us. In one way of thinking, it absolutely is. But my first reaction was one of being impressed. This was a point in her favor, in my view. And I'm an Obama supporter.