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Omaha Steve (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:24 PM Original message |
Breaking News: Nebraska Legislature won't apologize for slavery |
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merwin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. There's still a lot of racial hatred in this country. |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
48. I won't defend the action, but |
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keep_it_real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:29 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's a shame: no sympathies and no regrets; in other words. |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
3. Well is this kinda going backwards.... |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Can't say I disagree |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I see your point, and I think it's valid |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
76. Somebody is making a mountain out of a state north of Kansas |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. If CONGRESS would get off THEIR asses and show leadership, it might be easier |
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classysassy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. Young black men |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
7. When the economy goes bad, white men would do anything |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
8. What is so hard about apologizing? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. Nebraska was never a slave state. So, I think they got it right. |
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CanonRay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. That's what I thought too... |
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ChazII (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. Good point. n/t |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
49. It was legal in NY and MA long ago. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
70. Well, there actually was some slavery in Nebraska |
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lunaticmind (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
12. why apologize? for what? |
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matcom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. how about to help start a dialogue |
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lunaticmind (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. nice! |
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darue (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. ??? ??? ??? |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Although the individuals in question have little to no responsibility |
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TCJ70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. But Nebraska was never a slave state... |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
52. Have you checked the NE legislative web site? |
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darue (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. republican ratfuckers trying to create a divisive issue? - or not? |
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bluedigger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
14. Nor should they. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
17. Another thing for Americans to be "proud" about. This is sickening. |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. There was no slavery in Nebraska. nt |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. New Jersey was no "slave state" either, but had no problem making the apology. |
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BadgerLaw2010 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. How, exactly, did the Nebraska Territory benefit from Southern cotton production? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #20 |
77. Nebraska Corn Whiskey and Souther Cotton Gin |
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orangerevolution (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:19 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Southern Cotton Gin |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. According to wiki, New Jersey abolished slavery in 1846 |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. "Every state in this nation benefitted from that 'free labor'" |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Strain at the gnat and swallow the camel. You & I benefit even today from unpaid slave labor. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Again, the state of Nebraska didn't exist, and slavery wasn't legal |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Don't forget. They should also pay them money. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:52 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Are reparations also being discussed in the NE legislature? |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:27 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Not that I am aware. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 07:25 PM Response to Reply #31 |
71. I was born in Canada |
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MikeNearMcChord (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:31 AM Response to Reply #19 |
47. But wait didn't New Jersey have slavery in the colonial era? |
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darue (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. no, but there were slaves held in the state. not an apology anyway, an expression of regret |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Were there? Is this documented? And even if there were, |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Tell that to the slaves that were held there. Oh, that's right, they're dead. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:18 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Could you cite the documentation? Thanks. nt |
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darue (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. well |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. t’s unclear how many slaves or slave owners lived in Nebraska, |
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darue (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. it's not an admission of responsibility, just an expression of regret |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Here. |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Nebraska, Iowa, Kansas all paid heavily for their anti-slavery sentiments |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. Wouldn't Plessy v. Ferguson... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #54 |
61. Plessy v. Ferguson wasn't about slavery. It was argued in 1896, well after slavery ended. |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. You're thinking of the Dred Scott decision (1857) |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #17 |
44. I couldn't agree more, Zephyr. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. Thank you, zanne. |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
23. Is This An Election Year Thing Because of BO's Candidacy? |
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orangerevolution (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
79. If you are always referring to Obama as BO, |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
35. We all owe the descendents of slaves more than apologies. We owe big money for their ancestors labor |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:30 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Malcolm also said |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Why are you so defensive? |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-09-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. I'm someone who loves the people of the prairie states and knows their history. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. PERFECTLY SAID!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #39 |
59. I asked the same question on another thread. |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #39 |
83. Wow that's mature! |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Don't be an ass. I don't owe anybody anything unless I have/had |
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rayofreason (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
50. I've got Neanderthal DNA! |
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Throd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. Cro-magnon reparations NOW!!! |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. It would be the honorable and proper thing to do... |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:05 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. All eukaryotic life must apologize to prokaryotic life NOW! |
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Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 03:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Meh, they deserved it. |
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DrCory (862 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 02:39 PM Response to Reply #35 |
63. I benefit... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. My cousin still farms the land my ancestors got in payment for fighting for the Union. nt |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 07:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
72. Have you come up with a formula |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
51. Slavery abolished in 1865....Nevada statehood in 1867 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 06:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
66. Emily, this thread is about Nebraska |
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didact (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
56. Sons-a-bitches! |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Sarcastic in what sense? Please elaborate. -nt |
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GoddessOfGuinness (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-10-08 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
58. As we haggle over whether individual states should apologize... |
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Critters2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. Well said. Thank you. nt |
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orangerevolution (282 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-16-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #58 |
80. What are YOU doing? |
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tidy_bowl (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-11-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
60. I am still waiting.... |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
69. What can you expect for Nebraska? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
74. Corn huskers were a big slave holding state ? I doubt it |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-15-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. There's a map at the posted link |
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