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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:55 AM Original message |
Gun was being stowed, pilot tells police-Handgun went off inside cockpit of US Airways jet in flight |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. Why was it (un)locked and loaded? What if that had happened in |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. They are required to carry them in a holster while in flight |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Sounds reasonable, but the fact that the gun went off doesn't. . nt |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. why was the gun cocked? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Most Semi Autos don't have to be cocked |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. what a relief! |
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selador (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. what |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. They also busted that myth on Mythbusters. n/t |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:26 AM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Yep, takes a BIG hole for explosive decompression. |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #14 |
33. not just equipment, but someone could get shot |
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stlsaxman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:43 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Wasn't a whole window blown out in Goldfinger? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. Shooting a fuel tank full of fuel |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #25 |
36. Mythbusters also hit on this ... |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. also dangers with a bullet piercing vital human equipment |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Nothing. |
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Rick Myers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:18 AM Response to Original message |
4. The gun was stowed? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. He had to have taken it out of the holster most likely |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
29. Can I get a free glass of Prosecco? |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. Even if he was required to keep a gun on board - does this twinkie NOT |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:46 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. He's a pilot |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. Probably a Glock |
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sergeiAK (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. They carry HKs, IIRC |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I didn't know they had standards, thanks. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:50 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. I'm not as familar with HK |
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sergeiAK (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. I believe they do |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Aw, well in that case, so what? No problem, right? |
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michreject (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Not all guns have external safties |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. Airways Tower Supervisor Nathan Gundlach |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. According to what I've been reading |
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Thepricebreaker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
11. WOW Huge news... NOT.. |
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Algorem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 06:09 AM Response to Original message |
12. having your gun go off when you're trying to stow it in the cockpit. |
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DemoTex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
19. A friend who is an Airbus captain and FFDO for the same airline called me yesterday with the 4-1-1. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
20. I question the wisdom of stowing a firearm on a plane with a round in the chamber |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Makes no sense to carry in Condition 3 as protection against |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:18 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Hardened cockpit doors. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Mar-27-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Yeah but what if one barges his way in as one of flight crew |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
37. Gunshot possibly triggered by safety lock |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Faulty rules blamed for gun's firing - WA times.... |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Trigger lock? Bull. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Oh, God, a FULL 22 lbs? |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. "Excuse me sir, we're going to have to ask you to relocate your seat to balance the aircraft" |
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darue (383 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. uh... why was the safety off? |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Why was the gun loaded? I've had it drilled in my head you don't load unless you're about to shoot. |
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cullen2382 (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Why would it be unloaded? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Loaded doesn't mean having a chambered round |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. This is a gun, in the cockpit, whose door should be locked, and any commotion outside would give... |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. For the same reason a cops gun is loaded |
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DRoseDARs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. Cops are law enforcement agents who are expected to enter dangerous situations, pilots are not. |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. A lot of the newer guns don't have external safeties. |
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MaryCeleste (898 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. A lot? |
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sergeiAK (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Sig Sauer, Springfield XD, etc. -nt |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. The HK USP has a decock-only configuration... |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I believe the HK USP is sold in 4 different configurations. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Ha! Try nine, IIRC |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Most of the polymer frame guns sold today are. |
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Drum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Guns don't kill people, safety devices kill people. |
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skyounkin (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Bullshit! |
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greiner3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Lol; |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. So far no one has ask... |
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sergeiAK (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. There are double action semi-autos |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Many aren't like that any more |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Who puts a lock on a loaded gun? |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #51 |
59. Looks like the dumbasses in TSA decided |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Mar-28-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #37 |
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