Introducing the world's smallest gun that fires deadly 300mph bullets - but is just TWO inches long

[WarholPop]

Source: Daily Mail

Meet the pistol that fits in your pocket - and packs a hell of a punch. The SwissMiniGun is the size of a key fob but fires tiny 270mph bullets powerful enough to kill at close range.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=526655&in_page_id=1770

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This is insane! How much time, research, effort and money is expended in developing tools of destruction?! The company that is marketing this otherwise deadly gun is stating that it's just intended as a collector's item.

[meegbear]

1. Now even those less "endowed" can feel the power!

:thumbsup:

[superconnected]

31. hahahahhaha

:rofl:

[librechik]

2. countdown until a pair of these appear as earrings on a Bond Girl: 30...29...28...n/t

[Xithras]

3. LOL! I have a BB gun more powerful than that.

300MPH is about 440 Feet Per Second. A Daisy BB Bun can hit 550FPS. I guess it could be lethal if it hit the right spot, but so can a baseball. In reality, this thing would sting like hell, and it might even break the skin, but it isn't going to kill anybody. It's about as dangerous as an old, worn out BB gun. Just watch those eyes ;)

This is no danger to the public. Especially not at over $5,000 US. This is a collectors toy, nothing more.

[petronius]

10. Did you even bother to read the article?

"...as dangerous as a machine gun." It says so right there on the page. You don't think you know better than a newspaper article about guns, do you? ;)

</tongue in cheek>

[Xithras]

16. Yep. As dangerous as a machine BB gun :)

And I had a full auto BB gun as a kid, so that's saying something.

I gotta wonder about the claim in the article about 330FPS being strong enough to break skin. The author seems to be forgetting that penetrating power is a combination of velocity, mass, and diameter. A pillow fired at 330FPS might knock the wind out of you, but it won't break the skin. This things low velovity MIGHT be countered by its narrow diameter, but its rounds have no real mass to give it any sort of penetrating power. It's going to give you a nice welt, but that's about it. As someone else mentioned, you'd have to put this against someones eyeball and line your shot up perfectly with the optic nerve to get a fatal headshot. You'd have to put this against someones chest, perfectly aligned to the gap between their ribs (this won't break a rib) to hit anything internal. If you can get that close, a knife would be far more effective, do far more damage, and cost about $5,500 less.

[sofa king]

61. Don't bring a sub-BB pistol to a BB gun fight.

My Crossman 760 was nearly twice as powerful, with far better range and accuracy. It might have a chance against this, though.

Anyone who has paid a visit to the firearms section of the Smithsonian Museum of American History has likely seen David Kucer's superb collection of miniature firearms which are smaller, nicer, and also fully functional.

[lumberjack_jeff]

64. If my physics is right, your bb gun is not twice as powerful, it's like 8 times more powerful.

Your BB gun shoots "ammo" that is twice the diameter, (thus four times as heavy), at twice the velocity as this; the, uh, new "stealth weapon for serious criminals".

You'll shoot your eye out kid - but you might have to reload a couple of times.

[sofa king]

66. Oops. I must've left out that square at the end of m*v!

Now I wish I still had that gun. I could put an eye out with it!

[benEzra]

69. That's barely faster than a paintball. (n/t)

[defendandprotect]

4. Why worry? "Guns don't kill people . . . "

[bossy22]

13. this gun

def. cant

[sergeiAK]

5. Let's do some math.

Typical .22LR muzzle velocity: 1200fps.
This gun muzzle velocity: 400fps.
Typical .22LR bullet weight: 40 grains.
This gun bullet weight: 2 grains.

This gives it a muzzle energy of ~1 ft-lb. Considering that a .22 LR with a muzzle energy of 100+ ft lbs is considered weak, this falls under the "bloody useless" category. You'd have to put it into someones eye, with a contact shot, to even have a chance at killing them.

Useless, gaudy, very expensive. Yep, it's intended for collectors.

[WarholPop]

6. Cracker Jacks

. . . let's still hope it doesn't end up as a toy surprise in a box of cracker jacks.

[sergeiAK]

7. Can't be imported to the US.

So that's not too likely.

Granted, those import restrictions are a pile of bovine excrement in the way they're written.

Even if it could be imported, it would be regulated just like any other handgun.

[Lance_Boyle]

8. At roughly $6000?

Not likely.

Definitely collector's item territory.

[defendandprotect]

33. Maybe it will replace tasers . . . ???

[sergeiAK]

34. How? -nt

[defendandprotect]

35. How? . . .

By supposedly being less dangerous than a BB gun . . . etc as some are saying!!
Plus it's small . . . why wouldn't our police be interested in this?

[sergeiAK]

36. Because it's expensive, inaccurate, and not powerful enough to do anything?

Need I continue?

A bullet from this would probably feel like a bee sting and be significantly less deadly.

Let's see, $6k, ~.5" barrel, no sights, <1ft-lb of energy (most non-lethal systems, ie beanbags have ~25+), and so tiny it's hard to hold. Sounds ideal for Law Enforcement to me. :sarcasm:

[defendandprotect]

40. Sounds like an improvement on the taser . . . depends on how you're looking at this . . . !

[sergeiAK]

41. How in hell is that an improvement?

The taser is moderately effective, cheap, accurate enough, and large enough not to get lost? This trinket is none of the above.

[defendandprotect]

43. This "trinket" may hurt a lot less people . . .

than the taser is harming ---

Yet still look like a gun ---



:sarcasm:

[sergeiAK]

47. Why not just give them squirtguns then? -nt

[LostinVA]

9. They've been around for awhile and they're illegal in the US

And, it really is more of a collector's item at $6,000.

[LeftHander]

11. Now your preemee can hit the range with you....nt

[bossy22]

12. chill man

this gun is less dangerous then your dull butter knife.....it has 1/5 the power of an airsoft gun. its a collectors item because it is utterly useless in any other situation. It is not insane- it is interesting- and possibly a waste of money.....

[Traction311]

21. 1/5 the power of an airsoft gun?

Not doubting you, but I find that strange. I have an airsoft gun. If you get hit with it, it will bounce off and cause a red mark. How can any real gun be less powerful than that? Does it fire blanks? :)

[sergeiAK]

23. It fires a bullet ligher than an airsoft pellet, at a similar velocity.

Airsoft pellets weigh 2-4 grains. This gun fires a ~1.7gr bullet. Might as well be a blank, for all the .7ft-lbs of energy it carries.

[Traction311]

24. So this gun won't even pierce the skin?

Then what good is it? Meant to stun attackers?

[slackmaster]

27. What good are most things that people collect?

[Endangered Specie]

39. If you hit someone at point blank with your airsoft gun...

it would probably penetrate.

But keep in mind people tend to wear clothing when shot, so yeah, these things wouldn't do much more than put a hole in your clothes, esp if they are winter clothes.

[BadgerLaw2010]

55. Not likely. People wear clothing, jackets, etc, and its velocity barely penetrates skin as is.

And that is its muzzle velocity.

Handguns much larger than this are pretty ineffective against people. The human chest is actually a pretty heavily armored box with redundant components (lungs). If you somehow punctured a major blood vessel or the heart, yeah, this could be dangerous, but again, there are compressed air weapons that hit harder.

This does more damage if you put it between your knuckles and punch someone with it.

[benEzra]

70. What good is a Swiss mechanical watch? They don't keep any better time than a $20 quartz...

but there is the aspect of it as a finely crafted mechanical system. This has the distinction of being the world's smallest functional firearm. Quite an engineering accomplishment, even if it has no practical use.

[onehandle]

14. Yay Guns!

They make me feel like a MAN!

[bossy22]

15. lol...to

each his own

[Norrin Radd]

17. " Guns are for amateurs" - Brock Sampson

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[slackmaster]

18. As dangerous as a machinegun?

[Capn Sunshine]

19. Looks like a hoax to me

Firstly, how do you fire it? I think someone photoshopped the whole thing.
It's some kind of joke.

[slackmaster]

28. The part that looks like a trigger guard is actually the trigger

[meow2u3]

44. How the hell do you fit your finger in the trigger mechanism?

:shrug:

[Cronus Protagonist]

48. You don't, you pull the entire mechanism.

Look closer at it.

[slackmaster]

51. Your finger does not fit inside the "guard"

The spur down below is the actual contact area of the trigger.

[Jackpine Radical]

20. Dangerous? Not very.

A stupid, pointless excess? Most definitely. How to spend $6k and end up with nothing worth having.

[slackmaster]

25. Rare, unusual firearms increase in value over time

Anyone who would buy one would either consider it a long-term investment, or just an expensive knick-knack/toy/conversation starter.

It certainly has no value as a weapon.

[jmowreader]

22. The people who make these are unbelievably good machinists

I'd like to see them take a stab at making something useful.

[slackmaster]

26. "Useful" like mechanical watches in this electronic, digital age?

I'm sorry not everyone shares my appreciation for fine mechanical things. I don't believe that designing and making things that aren't practical is necessarily a waste of time or effort.

Making a fine machined thing, if nothing else, makes the person who made it a better machinist.

[Lex1775]

30. That is definitely a piece of art.

[Posteritatis]

32. Zuh, that is a thing of beauty. (nt)

[Ilsa]

45. Seeing this makes me feel better about humanity and our future.

It takes thought, focus, skill, and patience, development of the spacial areas of the brain, and it isn't used to kill anyone. At least, not directly.

[slackmaster]

52. A 2.3 mm revolver isn't going to be used to kill anyone either

Worst injury that weapon could inflict would be eye damage.

[Ilsa]

57. I know, I was talking in general. I have friends that are gun collectors

and I understand their appreciation for the devices. Like I said, I just meant in general, as opposed to someone developing a new nuclear, etc, weapon or something that causes pain. I have an appreciation for the talents of machining, gunmaking, sewing, anything where an item is devised and constructed.

[mainegreen]

54. Wow.

:wow:

That's gorgeous.

[guitar man]

29. hardly deadly

1.7 gr bullet at 396fps....I was just tapping my pen on my desk harder than that thing hits I bet...

[Dark]

37. How the hell do you load that thing?

nt

[sergeiAK]

38. With great difficulty -nt

[Bake]

60. I hear they're coming out with a tiny little speed loader

I bet that thing is tough to aim with any accuracy ...

Bake

[Trajan]

42. I do wish these 'news stories' would somehow 'accidently' post to the Gungeon ....

Stuff like this rises from the bowels of DU like quiet flatulence ....

[slackmaster]

53. It would be OT in the Gungeon

Maybe the Outdoor Life forum.

[NutmegYankee]

49. That story is sensationalist. My air pistol fires a .22 pellet at 550 fsp.

And my air rifle fires a .177 caliber BB at 870 fps. This gun fires a .092 caliber bullet (narrower than a BB, but longer) at 399 fps. My air pistols are deadlier!

Sorry, but I haven't seen too many successful murders with air pistols. There have been a few deaths, but it's rare.

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. I hate to say thius

but it is a collector's item

For that thing to actually kill you have to be point blank.

And yes it is cute, and no, don't preach to me, have seen plenty of what guns can do... both High Caliber (AK are fun, NOT) and even a cop who was stupid and blew his pinky off with a 25.

Now I can see this as dangerous in certain, very specific cases... but for the most part, it is a curiosity...

[Nihil]

56. One of the comments below the article is priceless:

> I don't think I'd want that one in my pocket.
> Looks like a groin injury waiting to happen.
>
> Perhaps that's intended by the manufacturer,
> it's really a gene pool screening device.

:rofl:

[lumberjack_jeff]

59. With the tiny bullets and low power, you'd have to do it twice to cause any meaningful damage. n/t

[alfredo]

58. A lot of these gun owners are going to lose tips of their fingers just

like Derringer users experience.

[slackmaster]

62. I've been trying to figure out how someone would hold such a small pistol to fire it

Maybe grip the handle between the thumb and index finger knuckle of one hand, and operate the trigger with the other.

You'd be likely to burn off some hairs on the back of your fingers.

[alfredo]

63. The recoil is a mutha.

[NickB79]

65. This will be perfect for the mosquito-hunting safari I'm going on!

Better use full-metal-jacket rounds though, you need extra penetration on those charging skeeters.

[-..__...]

67. More anti-gun hysteria?

:eyes:

Give it up already. The arguments and examples keep on getting more and more desperate and far reaching every day with some of you people.

Not only will your sobbing and paranoid concerns go unheeded, they will be met and beat down by every legislative and judicial means possible to myself and millions of other gun owners in this country.

And if that doesn't offend your precious sensitivities enough... we'll also continue to seek newer legislation that favors gun owners and overturn/repeal some of the existing gun control laws as well.

We have the money, motivation and numbers.

Count on it.

[HuffleClaw]

68. say hello to my LITTLE friend!

honey i shrunk the gun!



or how about, 'Cocktail swords, a hidden threat that endangers bar patrons everywhere!'

[benEzra]

71. 'Cocktail swords, a hidden threat that endangers bar patrons everywhere!'

Perfect example.

I can't believe (1) a newspaper actually published an "OMG!! SCARY!!!" article about this, and (2) some people were actually scared by it.

[DavidMS]

72. Do you think the same people fell for it...

that went out buying duct tape and plastic sheets every time Ashcorft talked about the DHS "I'm Skeered" chart...

Just wondering...

[benEzra]

73. Depends. Some people are just gullible regardless, but some people

who don't have a good "BS Detector" in the Carl Sagan sense substitute a "trusted source" information filter instead. So a gullible neocon might trust everything Ashcroft says and think (say) Russ Feingold is full of crap, whereas a Dem operating on the same paradigm might trust everything (say) the DLC says and consider Ashcroft to be full of crap. If one's trusted sources are indeed right all the time, the trusted-source model can work OK, but if one's trusted sources are flawed, then he/she may still blindly accept what the trusted sources say.

The problem is, I think some people--and a LOT of gun-404 reporters--are operating under a "trusted source" paradigm on the gun issue, and consider the VPC, FSA, the repubs at the Brady Campaign, etc. to be trusted sources. Hence they uncritically accept anything that comes out of the gun-control lobby regardless of how far-out it is, because those are presumed to be the "good guys" in white hats who always tell the truth without spin. Hence the hysteria in the OP about the miniature revolver, or .50 caliber target rifles shooting down 747's, or rifles with handgrips that stick out, etc.

[shain from kane]

74. Mini weapon of destruction. n/t