BREAKING NEWS: Hillary Clinton Wins Ohio Democratic Primary, NBC Projects

[Hissyspit]

Source: NBC News

With 54% in:

Clinton - 58% 674,415

Obama - 41% 475,732

Clinton wins Ohio; Texas still too close to call
N.Y. senator also takes Rhode Island, NBC projects; Obama wins Vermont

BREAKING NEWS
NBC News and MSNBC
updated 1 minute ago
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton threw up a roadblock to Sen. Barack Obama’s path to the Democratic presidential nomination by winning the giant Ohio primary, NBC News projected Tuesday night.

Clinton, D-N.Y., and Obama, D-Ill., split the smaller Rhode Island and Vermont primaries, according to NBC News, leaving Democrats to wait for Texas, the second big prize of the night, to provide clarity to the tight campaign. Results from Texas remained too close to call Tuesday night, NBC News projected.

Delegates to the Democratic National Convention are awarded proportionately, and those numbers will not be available until all returns are in. Going into Tuesday’s balloting, Obama led Clinton by 1,194-1,037, according to NBC News’ count.

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23463159

[BeatleBoot]

1. 57% HRC 41% BHO

Per MSNBC at 10:55 pm

[Zambero]

69. Too little and too late

Hillary will be the Dem's Huckabee, plodding slowly to an ultimate defeat. What's the story with Arkansas residents, past and present, that suspends reason and better judgment? The water perhaps?

[pnwmom]

91. She's no Huckabee. She's only 90 delegates behind Obama.

Huckabee was never even close.

[Zambero]

106. "Huckahill" Clinton will never pull even.

It would take 60%+ majorities in every remaining caucus and primary for her to catch Obama. She didn't manage that in Ohio, even with her slanderous smear tactics aka "Kitchen Sink". And weighing in Obama's anticipated edge in the Texas caucuses, he'll come away with a slight delegate lead in that state. Add up the delegates from all 4 states voting on March 4 and it's a virtual wash. Just when and where is this Clinton resurgent wave going to materialize? Mississippi? Nope! Oregon? I don't think so! North Carolina? Doubtful! Yes, Huckabee was never close, but losing by one vote gets the the same result as losing in a landslide. Hillary will end up somewhere in-between.

[pnwmom]

113. She doesn't need to pull even.

All she has to do is win enough votes to keep Obama from getting the super-majority he thinks he's entitled to -- even though the majority of the US public still supports her candidacy over his.

Then the superdelegates will have to decide -- do they go with the candidate who has pulled more delegate votes, or the one who consistently has had the support of the majority of ordinary Democrats?

[Zambero]

133. If it's down to a handful of "Superdelgates" and not the will of the voters

Then you can effectively hand off the entire election to McCain. The backlash will be deafening.

[Xenotime]

128. She will come out ahead and get the nomination

[mysteryman2]

72. Thats what I thought Barack needs to tighten up

[El Supremo]

2. She won't get enough delegates.

Who cares if she wins a state. This ain't the electoral college.

[Tarc]

10. Enjoying them sour grapes, chief?

Boy, does it feel good to put an O-Bot in his place tonight!

[swag]

21. Enjoy an expected victory while you can, even without the

delegates required to fill the massive gap.

Hillary endorsed McCain over Obama, on the basis of a disastrous policy position that she shares (pro-Iraq-war). On the basis of this, from one person's perspective, she is a presumtuous and opportunistic lowlife.

And she is losing in the delegate count.

And she will very likely not be the nominee.

Thank goodness or whatever.

[mitchtv]

42. I can see how she won

People are beginning to see it is between 2 POLITICIANS neither being a savior.

[Tarc]

44. "Hillary endorsed McCain over Obama"

I stopped reading there. Go peddle your deceptive bullshit to someone more gullible, please. No one with a clue around here buys it at all.

[swag]

50. For your edification:

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/03/01/politics/fromtheroad/entry3896372.shtml

FORT WORTH, TEXAS -- Hillary Clinton told reporters that both she and the presumtive Republican nominee John McCain offer the experience to be ready to tackle any crisis facing the country under their watch, but Barack Obama simply offers more rhetoric. “I think you'll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say,” she said. “He’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.” Clinton was referring to Obama’s anti-war speech he delivered in Chicago before entering the United States Senate.

Of course Obama's position was dead right, even prophetic, while Clinton's and her buddy McCain's positions led to full-on disaster.

[Tarc]

61. It is a slam of Obama, not an endorsement of McCain

Stop being intentionally obtuse, please.

[swag]

64. Who's being intentionally obtuse?

“I think you’ll be able to imagine many things Senator McCain will be able to say — he’s never been the president, but he will put forth his lifetime of experience. I will put forth my lifetime of experience. Senator Obama will put forth a speech he made in 2002.”

So McCain's not superior to Obama according to Clinton in that declaration?

Regardless of her intentions in praising McCain's alleged "experience" over Obama's, it must be said that Obama was exactly correct about Iraq in 2002 and Clinton and McCain, having evidently never managed to learn much in their "lifetimes of experiences," were exactly wrong.

[spoiledrotten]

87. if I felt like betting - I'd bet that

you'd have voted for war funding on the same day she did. I would like to know how many Dem's voted to fund the war and how many voted against it. Was every Dem that voted to fund the war wrong? Don't think so. I think they voted based of inaccurate information from the intelligence community. Further, I am really surprised that BO voted at all on the bill since his political strategy was to vote "present" on any vote that could come to haunt him. BO is a very risky business.

[swag]

137. I have copies of several letters to my senators and my representative

from as far back as August 2002 urging them to resist the insane rush to war.

It didn't take an intelligence genius to know that Bush was running on bullshit - the ladies' coffee-klatsch at my mom's ultra-fundamentalist church knew he was up to something deceptive.

[Maureen1322]

118. No so fast.

You can't ignore the fact that the states she won will go Dem. in the fall.

[rpannier]

3. How will the delegates play out in this???

Is this done on a statewide basis where the winner gets 57% of the delegates

or is it

On a county-wide basis where the winner of each region gets those votes?

[Torn_Scorned_Ignored]

31. self delete

[Ishoutandscream2]

4. Wow!!

Big win, with the kind of margin she's needing. Let's see how my home state of Texas turns out. This is getting more and more interesting by the day.

[lapfog_1]

5. Nope, she needed to win by 20 points

and she needed to win BOTH Ohio AND Texas by 20.

That isn't going to happen.

Party on now, but tomorrow there will be a great deal of pressure applied to her to drop out.

[aquart]

11. Not by me.

So sorry the Obamatrain didn't have a clean sweep. So very sorry.

[lapfog_1]

16. I didn't expect one.

Negative campaigns work.

But the math is still the math.

Congratulations to Hillary on her Ohio win. How many delegates did she get? How many did Obama get?

And Texas is going to be an Obama win, both Primary and Caucus.

The net result from tonight is that Hillary didn't close in on the Obama lead AT ALL.

And there are fewer and fewer places left for her to do so.

[Ishoutandscream2]

18. I'm not going to "party on"

I'm an Edwards supporter, who decided to vote for Obama. A somewhat neutral observer can still be fascinated by the process, so keep your pants on.

[The_Casual_Observer]

20. Tough ass, he lost!

[lapfog_1]

40. Lost what?

the Ohio primary... a primary he was NEVER ahead in?

Look, I don't care about who wins how many votes state wide in any state. It's meaningless.
There are no winner-take-all primaries. None.

And in Texas, they way they hold the primacacus, you could win the popular vote state wide and come out with FEWER delegates than your opponent.

It's all about the delegates.

How many delegates did Hillary net so far tonight?

How many will she have netted by tomorrow?

She needed to win +50 today. That's a fact.

I don't think she did it. All she did was stop the string of blowouts by Obama.

[spoiledrotten]

52. All she did was stop the string of blowouts by Obama.

and they will both be going to a brokered convention. The delegates will see through the Obama lies and she will be the nominee.

[cseper]

68. Let's see. A couple of states?

Like New York, California, Florida, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee, Texas, RI.... Need I go on? Hillary wins the big states that we will need to win in November. Obama wins Utah and Idaho, with the support of all three of the Democrats in Utah and Idaho. Obama wins in states the Dems won't carry. You guys have a bad case of sour grapes. It's a beautiful thing to behold. See you at the convention.

[pnwmom]

92. Oh yeah? According to whom?

She's only 90 delegates behind Obama now, including pledged superdelegates. So why is her situation so hopeless?

[moobu2]

6. Looks like Obama's forked tung r.e. NAFTA, hurt him in Ohio

[defendandprotect]

82. What did I miss . . . what did Obama say about NAFTA . . . ???

[bulloney]

112. Obama's stand on NAFTA didn't hurt him.

The perception in much of Ohio is that NAFTA has been bad for the state.

I agree with the statements that Clinton had led Ohio the whole time, the negative campaigning helped her hold on to the lead, and Governor Strickland was at her side at every campaign stop in the state. Strickland's currently viewed favorably by Ohioans.

[Obamaniac]

7. Cleveland and Cincinatti have only 2% reporting and...

...they are both going for Obama.

[Warren Stupidity]

8. A split decision. Ugh 7 more weeks of this crap.

One way or another I'd rather it were over tonight, but it looks like that is not going to happen.

[dana_b]

13. 7 weeks? what about Puerto Rico? n/t

[spoiledrotten]

54. I agree -

I wish is was over and we'd never have to hear the Obama name again - EVER! ! ! !

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[tinrobot]

12. How much of this win is Republicans voting for Hillary?

Just curious, because that's what Rush Limbaugh has been urging his listeners to do.

[Ghost Dog]

101. It's curious how nobody seems to want to answer that question.

What are GOP supporters doing voting in Democratic primaries?

Voting: a). for the D candidate they reckon their preferred R candidate can most easily beat; and
b). for the D candidate who, if elected to the presidency, would be most acceptable to GOP supporters

or the other way around. In this election it doesn't seem to matter, since HRC fits the bill in both cases.

[Igel]

131. Some have.

Anecdotally, at least as many have crossed the partisan boundary to support BO: It's what part of his claim of being a uniter is based on.

Exit polls that I've seen--you can Google them yourself--usually show more repubs going for Obama than for HRC. (1) Dislike of HRC, whatever Limbaugh says, and (2) dislike of McCain/Bush.

[bulloney]

114. Melon Head Russert's spin is that Clinton's wins Tuesday are great for McCain.

McCain can focus on the general election. (Never mind that the religious right, prominent talk shows and other factions of the Republican machine hate McCain.)

Meanwhile, Melon Head thinks the Democrats will go into their convention divided and bloodied, just like 1968, 1972 and 1980. And they lost the presidential elections in all three years.

Wishful thinking for Melon Head.

[TimmyTims]

14. Elephants crossed over big time

The Pugs threw a spanner in the works.

[merwin]

36. Yes, everyone is switching their political affiliation JUST to appease Rush.

Uh, huh. Somehow I think the number of Rush listeners who switched parties and voted Clinton is very very low. It's just Rush spouting his usual shit.

[tinrobot]

39. They didn't have to switch parties.

They just had to show up and vote.

[bulloney]

115. In Ohio you have to declare your political party to vote for that party's slate of candidates.

[Henny Penny]

127. So my dear bot...

In states where you do not have to declare your party affiliation... who did best. Obama or Hillary???

And in states where you had to be a registered Democrat who did best.... Obama or Hillary????

[Igel]

132. You vote in the Texas primary, you declare party affiliation.

It prevents you from voting in run-offs and some other things for the party you didn't vote for.

Many repubs and independents (whatever 'independent' means in Texas) may have asked for a dem ballot; but only dems could cast any votes for HRC or BO. The first question on the ballot is a loyalty 'oath': To vote is to accept it.

That means if they voted in the repub primary the last time they voted in a primary, they switched parties.

[emilyg]

15. I'm so happy!

[Dinger]

17. Cool! GO HILLARY!!!!!!!

:toast: :bounce: :toast: :bounce: :kick: :kick: :loveya: :loveya: :grouphug:

[swag]

19. openleft.com and others show that Obama may beat her in delegates

on the basis of how that state does delegates.

[aquart]

24. IOW, screw the popular vote?

[swag]

25. What world are you on?

The whole primary system general election are "screw the popular vote."

The Clinton campaign has screwed the popular vote where it could, and seeks to screw primaries and caucuses where it can through threatened lawsuits.

I didn't make the rules - the Democrats in power (i.e., the Clintons, et al.) did.

[spoiledrotten]

55. I rather be screwed than lied too

[swag]

58. Well, congratulations: you're probably both.

[spoiledrotten]

62. And both from Baracadumbdumb

[humbled_opinion]

124. Isn't it amazing how at one time the popular vote

was the Mantra of many Democrats and now because Hillary is losing the Popular vote the point is silenced!!...

If Obama Wins the Popular Democratic vote he will be the nominee no matter what her Heinous wants...

and it amazes me that people on this very forum would allow the disenfranchisement of so many voters what is the math now over a million more votes for Barrack then Hillary...

and if she even thinks about counting the existing FL and MI delegates she is in for a legal battle.

Why does this feel like Bush V Gore and which side are you on now? Think about it.

[jannyk]

22. Yeah!! You go Girl!!! Hillary Rocks!

[mysteryman2]

23. Hillary stomped the talk

Go Hillary from a true supporter see what happens when you follow your heart not polls

[OKthatsIT]

138. No...see what happens when The BILDERBERGS are on her side

When the Bilderbergs say they're putting her 'in'(as was announced in Ottowa, 2006), they send out their minions to get the job done.

And you thought they'd let Obama win...silly sheep.

[Soon2bRenditioned]

26. How did she win? She went after Obama by saying that John McCain is a better choice.

It makes it tough for party unity afterwards. I think negative campaining worked well along with a convenient leak by the diplomatic arm of Canada (something that their own Parliment came out to say was wrong and confirmed Obama's response).

I think it might be time for Obama to take off the gloves and return fire.

[mysteryman2]

28. Hillary is winning in the bigest populated states

for the most part what i have said. Texas is close he didn't stomp her not even close.

[Soon2bRenditioned]

136. Is that not a continuation of the big state strategy? Do you think Deans 50 state strategy is crap?

I have not see huge blowouts, exluding a few smaller states on both sides over 10 points. The maps have been drawn, the delegates allocated and at the end of the day Obama is winning. So should we just have elections with "the big states voting" because everyone else does not matter?

[spoiledrotten]

47. And she was right -

I've been saying for 4 months, if Obama is the candidate - consider my vote to go for McCain. I could never cast my vote for that lying piece of dung.

[kevinbgoode]

65. Sounds like you are a conservative

I can't imagine any Democrat voting for John McCain, particularly as he arrives at the White House to receive Bush's endorsement.

[Zambero]

70. Who needs Ralph Nader as a spoiler?

When right wing "Democrats" such as yourself will flock to the polls and cast their votes for John "Bush III" McCain?

[spoiledrotten]

75. One - I am definately not a "right wing" democrat

and my vote will NOT be for McCain - it will be against BO - and the stench thereof.

[Zambero]

104. I smell the stench of a wingnut lurker

who laments that McCain is not more conservative, but nevertheless loves his support of the war from day one (just like Hillary), his cozying up to Joe Lieberman, and his sucking up to dead homophobic Jerry Falwell for that matter. You'll also love his photo op with Bush tomorrow.

[mysteryman2]

73. Thats to bad you will have to live with it

[spoiledrotten]

76. like we all will if BO is nomintated

but I will NOT sell out to "a" sometimes a Christian and sometimes a Muslim and connections to organized crime like the Rezko deal.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

94. "Sometimes a Muslim"

I know what you are. I doubt it has much to do with supporting Mrs. Clinton, truth be known.

[spoiledrotten]

96. You don't know anything -

if you are referring to me. I could give a "dung" what BO is. But he needs to find out "what he is". And at this point, he doesn't seem that he knows, "what he is".

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

98. One thing I do know...

You are quite the little ray of sunshine on this forum.

Enjoy your stay.

[defendandprotect]

84. How could you possibly vote for 4 more years of Bush?????

[spoiledrotten]

89. I didn't know he was running for his third term?

John McCain is NO Geo. Bush.

[polmaven]

122. Please show me just WHERE, other than

actually having served in Viet Nam he is different?

Pro Iraq war, anti choice, anti gay rights, pro NAFTA with NO changes,....he may have voted against the tax cuts, but I really don't know why that was, other than maybe he thought they didn't cut enough for the billionaires....anti health care reform, anti public school reforms. ....

Just WHERE is he significantly different?

[defendandprotect]

130. Every Republican is George Bush . . .

[Soon2bRenditioned]

135. What has he lied about?? What am I missing? I really want to know.

[kamtsa]

105. John McCain is my second choice after Hilary

[Soon2bRenditioned]

134. So someone who wants to stay in Iraq for 100 years is better?

I want to know why there is such a bid divide here? You are willing to support a republican that is in line with Bush on every issue, has embraced the same divides, backtracked on immigration reform, etc. This confuses me.

[Politicalboi]

27. A spoiled victory

If you who support Hillary can justify her tactics then your just like the Republicans for Bush in 2000.

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[spoiledrotten]

48. What about that lying sack of dung Obama - Mr. Everything Can Change

He goes around like Ronald Regan with glowing speeches about how he can "change" everything. He'll be just like Jimmy Carter who was not a Wash. insider. He'll accomplish nodda.

[kevinbgoode]

67. Hmm....30 posts and a certain affinity for conservative cliches

People are tired of the "more-of-the-same" crap. And the message is that the Washington "insiders" have got to go - and that message is coming from huge numbers of the American people.

Obama most certainly does not "go around like Ronald Reagan" - though Reagan changed a whole lot of things - for the worse.

Don't mock the efforts of people who want to make the people of this country more represented in this government. The presidency is NOT an entitlement for "Washington insiders" only. . .and perhaps it is time for a constitutional amendment declaring it. I'm tired of old insiders telling ME that I MUST vote for THEM because THEY know everything. . .and then they do squat.

[spoiledrotten]

78. 30 thoughtful posts

or 1000+ of the same crap.

[acmavm]

111. If number of posts impress you, take a look at mine. And I say that Barrie

is a steamin' pile as well. He started off lying (he wasn't going to run) and he's spent all this time topping each previous whopper with a bigger one.

I don't like Hillary at all. In fact, I dislike Barrie even more for making me a Hillary supporter (I am/was and Edwardsite). The thought of another Clinton presidency makes me angry, but the thought of that lobbyist wet dream Obama makes the anger unbearable.

I think this is the funniest thing I've seen in a LONG time. It's just some kind of cosmic Karma that everyone who kept posting 'if Hillary doesn't win Texas and Ohio she needs to quit' have to face the facts that your wonderboy Barrie doesn't have the support in the real world that you wishfully think he does.

[bulloney]

116. And McCain or Hillary will accomplish what?

A continuation of the Iraq war, depriving our infrastructure in the process.

Economic policies that skew benefits for those who need it the least.

A virtual orgy for lobbyists.

I don't know if Obama can change that. But, at least he's talking about making the effort to change the status quo, while McCain and Clinton would keep it.

And don't play the experience card. What real experience does Hillary have? She was first lady, whoopdee do! She only has a couple more years experience as a U.S. Senator than Obama. But Obama has more experience as a state legislator.

McCain's been nothing but a double-talking political hack who took one too many hits to the head at the Hanoi Hilton.

[bulloney]

117. And McCain or Hillary will accomplish what?

A continuation of the Iraq war, depriving our infrastructure in the process.

Economic policies that skew benefits for those who need it the least.

A virtual orgy for lobbyists.

I don't know if Obama can change that. But, at least he's talking about making the effort to change the status quo, while McCain and Clinton would keep it.

And don't play the experience card. What real experience does Hillary have? She was first lady, whoopdee do! She only has a couple more years experience as a U.S. Senator than Obama. But Obama has more experience as a state legislator.

McCain's been nothing but a double-talking political hack who took one too many hits to the head at the Hanoi Hilton.

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[MADem]

56. My, what a broad brush. I will be sure to tell Sen. John Glenn you think he's a 'tard.

We know where you're coming from....and the place where you hail from ain't the drawer where the sharp knives are stacked, either, so I wouldn't be so swift to denigrate if I were you!

Hey, people from Ohio--this clown thinks you're STOOOOOOPID!

And those Ohio "morons" have produced no fewer than eight presidents...but... WHATEVER...



http://columbusoh.about.com/cs/historygenealogy/l/blmother.htm

A teaspoon of sugar might make those grapes a bit less sour.

[bulloney]

119. I'm from Ohio, but ashamed to say that the presidents it produced are some of the worst in history.

Warren Harding is considered by many historians as THE worst. (But I think Bush will unseat Harding from that status.) There hasn't been another Ohioan elected president since.

Then you have the rest:
William Taft
Ulysses Grant
James Garfield
Benjamin Harrison
William McKinley
Rutherford Hayes

None of them rate very high by presidential historians.

Some tag William Henry Harrison as being from Ohio. He was actually born in Virginia.

[MADem]

120. Well, all of them are better than GW Bush and his relative Franklin Pierce.

I think they were actually worse. Harding was simply a crook who did little, though he did like to drink and play cards.

They aren't the best, but not the worst, either. Grant was kind of interesting, and McKinley ended up biting the bullet at the end of the day....

Of course, they blame poor Texas for Bush...but he was actually born in Connecticut!!!

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

32. K & R

:kick:

[mistertrickster]

33. Looks like exit polls were "wrong" again. Funny, how that keeps happening when Clinton "wins."

Ohio was two points ahead for Clinton. And now she's 14 percent ahead in the hard count.

No wonder she hates caucuses.

No electronic voting machines . . .

[merwin]

38. Provide hard evidence, or please just shut up.

People like you are what make people think that machine tampering is joke.

[spoiledrotten]

57. As long as HIllary wins -

who cares if the machines are fixed - anything to shut that lying Obama up! ! ! !

[Hissyspit]

99. Screw honest democracy? As long as Hillary wins?

Wow. I don't need to say anything. You're doing fine by yourself.

[defendandprotect]

86. Yeah, they only tamper with the "machines" for federal elections . . . ??? !!!!

Don't think so ---

Which is why ALL of this is such a joke ---

[merwin]

88. We have hard evidence of tampering in general elections.

We have no such evidence (yet) in these elections.

I am a believer that elections are being tampered with in our country. I just like proof of it before I go spouting off about election fraud.

[defendandprotect]

129. I am pointing to what is likely and away from fairytales ---

What I am saying is that it is likely that we are getting steals in these elections and polls,
just as we've had steals in federal elections ---

and in fact this has been going on since the mid-1960's when computers first began to come in.
See: Votescam, The Stealing of America
http://www.constitution.org/vote/votescam__.htm

Two journalists -- Jim & Ken Collier -- wanted to do a story on elections and one of them
actually ran for office. They quickly noted that that their vote count moved up and then back
down and began to investigate. They wrote a book under contract to a major publisher only to
see the book suppressed. You can read or scan the book at the website which their family keeps
going.

And, btw, while the reality of computer steals is shocking to those who believe in fairytales,
let's also keep in mind the overt and covert political violence we've suffered over the past
decades at the hands of these criminal fascists. Do we think we've had assassinations but no
criminal interference with our elections?

[polmaven]

123. Well, sure, because it is quite obvious that,

If Hillary wins, she had to have tampered with the voting machines to do so.....

Give me a break!!!! :silly:

[MADem]

59. Yeah, because when OBAMA wins, it is a dramatic victory, but when CLINTON wins, it's

WAAAAAAAH.....she musta CHEEEEEEEEATED!!!!!

Her constituents have better things to do than smoke a bowl and hang out at the gym giggling. They've got jobs, grandparents or kids to care for, they're working their shift work jobs, serving overseas, changing bedpans at the hospital...you know, regular people, who can't get off work or skip that night class to go caucus.

Put some honey on those grapes.

[TankLV]

77. Noticed that too, huh? The obamababies are really incredible...

If the shoe were on the other foot, they'd be clamoring for her to "drop out"...

Well, the obamababies can BITE ME!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Their delusion is simply ASTOUNDING and dumbfounding...to say the least...!

And then if she wins by 2 or 10 percent - it's not a "real" win because she should have won by 20 percent!

what a bunch of SORE LOSERS!

America won tonite - thank god...

[MADem]

95. They're pathalogical. And I've never seen such fury when they're thwarted.

I guess it's that George Carlin "special" generation kicking in (GC has a special on HBO this month, pretty amusing, where he talks about how kids were coddled coming up in the past few decades--rather amusing).

They get SO pissed off when their Blessed BO doesn't permeate the contests decisively, and they don't spare the childish vitriol either. In the few links I've seen this evening, she's been called SATAN, Bride of Chucky, and (ironically, since Lieberman mentored Obama as a freshman) "Hillerman" with a pic of her poorly morphed with Holy Joe.

Talk about a "Kitchen Sink" attack! The thing they don't get, though, is that when you toss everything but the kitchen sink, the unsaid term is "everything RELEVANT but the kitchen sink!"

Blind, spiteful, foot-stomping name-calling just makes them look like what they are--not very mature.

[qnr]

34. Good Lord!

She batted this one right out of the old ball park.

[SIMPLYB1980]

35. K&R!

[greengestalt]

37. Remember, Obma or nobody

Don't know if I'll write in Obama or vote for the -ader word, but I will if Hillary is selected Democratic presidential front runner.

To the rich elite, this is a "Hot Potato" election. They want to lose, to Hillary, so they are shielded from and the Democratic party takes full blame for the consequences of Bush's fake terms in office.

[Pastiche423]

41. How can she win the nom

when mathmetically, it is impossible for her to get more delegates than Obama?

[swag]

45. She has an almost impossible path to the nomination at this point.

[Pastiche423]

53. If the Young Turks have it right

even if she wins Texas, she can't win the nom.

[spoiledrotten]

49. But Baraca Dumb Dumb

won't have enough delegates either - so it will be a brokered convention - now let me guess who'll get that one.

[Pastiche423]

51. I'll guess...

Al Gore!

[spoiledrotten]

63. Now that I would go for - for real ! ! !

[Hissyspit]

97. Baraca Dumb Dumb?

What are you? Five years old?

[frog92969]

107. In troll years.

And people keep feeding it.

edit- In post #47 it's talking about voting McCain.

[merwin]

83. She can potentially make it impossible for him to win it also.

Then it gets kicked up a notch

[mitchtv]

43. Fuggin Tweety must be crushed

hahahhahaha

[seriousstan]

46. My 83 yr old mom just won a dollar.

lololololololol

I am not kidding.

[Akimbo2112]

60. Hey Ho......

Way to go Ohio and Rhode Island!!!!!






Congrats to Barack and supporters on the win in Vermont!!!!!!


(Texas is still out...)

[anitar1]

66. If Hillary should by some chance be the chosen candidate, I am

expecting mass seppuku's from his supporters. What sour grapes there are on this thread .

[Donnachaidh]

71. ain't THAT the truth!

within the last few days there were polls being posted asking if Hillary supporters would vote for Obama if he was the candidate. And look at how his supporters are acting on this thread! The arrogance quickly turns to tantrums and threats. So mature. :eyes:

[spoiledrotten]

85. you're so right

and look at all the autocrats supporting BO.

[spoiledrotten]

80. If BO is nominated -

there will be a mass exodus from the democratic party - as there should be - and your reference to seppuku will for sure be a suicide by self-disembowelment for the party.

[TankLV]

74. CNN just announced that HILLARY WINS TEXAS OHIO AND RHODE ISLAND!

YES!

And obama still doesn't concede - what an ass - just as I expected...

If Obama won instead of Hillary, the obamaidiots would be clamoring for her to drop out...

I am SOOO happy tonite...

CONGRATULATIONS HILLARY!!!

[libbygurl]

79. WOO-HOO! GO, HILLARY!

:bounce: :toast: :kick: :yourock: :headbang: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[barb162]

81. Wonderful news. Delightful outcome for the Democratic Party

And Hillary.

[spoiledrotten]

90. Indeed it was - I am so over

listening to BO's line of BS.

[singilarpoint]

93. what then??

It appears that hillary is putting herself above the party and it will tear the party into a million little pieces, she is out according to the math. congratulations; only 10,000 years left to go in iraq!!!!! impeach mccain--out of iran.. i'm just trying to get ahead of the game!!!!!

[kuratowa]

100. Looks Like It Cuts Both Ways

I see a lot of people here saying Obama supporters are sore losers, and in the same breath show themselves to be ungracious winners.

Does name calling like this really help anyone?

[kentj44]

102. heres the scenario

clinton wins the nomination,loses the presidency,dems lose house and senate,we are right back where we were in 2000.a rethug government i'm starting to believe its true dems can't win elections but they can govern but can't get that win to govern.

[Divine Discontent]

103. ha..

this mini-win, which gives her a couple delegates more than Obama, sure looks good in the news, but fact wise, it's not what she needed. It sure gave some of the people I rarely see post, a chance to get their Obama-hate on tonight though! I haven't heard him called an ASS in a while, but I'm not on often. Ah, that tank is one good person!


thankfully, this will all be over sooner than we can imagine, and Obama will be the nominee, even Hillary knows this, she's just banking on a miracle, and it's not going to happen for her.

[happygoluckytoyou]

108. BETTER SEE SOME COOPERATION HERE

i know they are fighting...BUT anyone fighting outside of the lines will be losing my vote

simple as that... sorry country, we need a democrat, but not at the cost of what we are as a party


I WOULD SOONER NOT VOTE, OR WRITE IN EDWARDS, THAN VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO HAS LOST OUR VALUES

... SADLY THAT WOULD PUT ME ON A PAR WITH MAKING EXCUSES FOR STEALING CIVIL RIGHTS,
"sorry but due to fear, we will support things in which we don't believe"
"sorry but fear of a republican has me voting for someone who cheated to win"

wish i could do it..

[Baby Snooks]

109. Gutter politics

Hillary Clinton decided to try the gutter and appealed to the racists and religious bigots. And it paid off.

[Prophet 451]

110. Well, that's a surprise n/t

[Baby Snooks]

121. The road to the White House...

The road to the White House is paved with Independents and some Republicans. Most of whom would vote for Obama over McCain. None of whom would vote for Clinton. You can open a can of worms over that with regard to "party purity" but "party purity" doesn't win elections.

I doubt many Republicans voted in the Democratic primary in Texas but a lot of Independents did. And became "registered" Democrats in the process. But that doesn't mean they will vote Democratic. Many of their votes went to Obama. And none of their votes will go to Clinton.

In any case, she didn't win Ohio or Texas by a landslide. She merely picked up enough delegates to be back in the running.

But she did so by wallowing in a gutter of racism and religious bigotry. And that is not going to endear her to the majority of Africa-Americans in this country whose votes she needs to win the White House.

[singilarpoint]

125. I agree..

Baby snooks wanna hear something scary? Can you name one red state that hillary can carry that Gore or Kerry did NOT carry...That is a very scary thought...

[AllexxisF1]

126. I am completely in the middle and I will support either, however.....

THERE IS NO WAY THAT HILLARY COULD MATHEMATICALLY WIN UNLESS THE SUPER DELEGATES OVERRIDE THE ELECTORATE.


...and that is never going to happen.



....if it does happen, you will see the biggest backlash in voter disenfranchisement in history and John McCain will win.


Is Hillary so wanting to be President that she would do all that is mentioned above just so she could have a chance to fight in the general election?


I'm not a Obamababy, I'm not a Clintonite ...I am a Progressive Democrat who wants to kick the living shit out of McCain. They are both excellent candidates but really in this time and place the PARTY HAS TO COME FIRST.

Looking at the numbers how the hell could any Hillary supporter be ok with her prostituting the super delegates in order to win?