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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:49 AM Original message |
Scalia: Constitution Doesn't Outlaw Torture |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Maybe it doesn't. But US treaty law does. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Here's a question for our Staunch Catholic Conservative |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. That's it. As a Catholic, he's an Inquisition denier. He doesn't think the Inquisitors did anything |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
52. I remember hearing he's opus dei, |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
97. I'm sure.... |
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zabet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
34. Laws of Armed Conflict |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #1 |
53. Weren't some Nazi judges on the high court sentenced for |
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babydollhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. cringe cringe...why do these guys represent The People? |
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shain from kane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well, it certainly doesn't outlaw stupidity! |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
4. Scalia's a vicious imbecile... |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
50. He's a real Dirt Bag |
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appal_jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
66. spot-on Birthmark!!! |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. We need some of these TV Constitutional Scholars |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 08:56 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Believe you mean the 9th Amendment |
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Birthmark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. The Tenth deals with both. |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
87. What a shame to have confirmed someone such as Scalia who should volunteer to allow himself to |
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davekriss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
100. Here's a quote from a while back |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. he has quite a legacy -- that one should never be forgotten |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
5. So , in this luntics twisted mind |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
21. He's being selective in his definition. |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
44. If you use that argument |
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Bear down under (289 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Cruel, yes... |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
69. Scalia is through the ice |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
6. How cruel and unusual from Fat Tony - but not unexpected |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
7. ack - dupe self delete |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
9. Scalia is a fascist liar. |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:10 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. DELETE DUPE |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:11 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. What Scalia sees when he reads it |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
70. Another good point. Torture would compel one to be a witness against oneself. nt |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
10. Can someone with Real Player |
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foxer (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Why don't you download realplayer, it's free |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. Several reasons |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
11. So let's just stand tall & proud and say |
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EmperorHasNoClothes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
12. Does the Constitution outlaw smacking a supreme court justice upside the head? |
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Sal Minella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Hmm. Since the safety and general welfare of the American people would be greatly enhanced if |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
15. Has Scalia never heard of . . . |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Well, Mr. Strict Originalist says: |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. Scalia is a degenerate inflicted with syphillis with one testicle stuck up his colon |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #15 |
88. The Ist Amendment is categorical, as is the ban on cruel and unusual punishment. |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:16 AM Response to Original message |
16. Torture is not used to get information. |
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rateyes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
17. What a dumbass. Sure, it does. The Constitution explicitly states |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #17 |
59. Scalia is nothing but a fascist Liar... you nailed it |
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Brigid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. Let's waterboard Scalia. |
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navarth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. let's taze him, bro n/t |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
23. Their security detail needs to be reduced to... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
24. The Constitution doesn't outlaw same sex marriage or evolution. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
26. roberts is worse... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. "Back to the late 1800's"?? Try back to pre-1648 (when the |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:04 AM Response to Original message |
28. Impeach That Monster |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It's my impression that SC judges can be impeached. |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #28 |
62. The Justices have the lowest burden of all impeachments. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:05 PM Response to Reply #62 |
90. Unfortunately |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:18 PM Response to Reply #90 |
106. Fortunately this was not a judicial ruling |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
29. This surprises anyone? |
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stubtoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
32. One more rec, anyone?? |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. done nt. |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
35. bullshit Scalia, |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
36. What a loathesome toad Scalia is. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. What country is this? |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
38. So, the way I keep reading this |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
39. Mr. Scofflia ignores a portion of the Constitution: treaties and laws Congress pass and are affirmed |
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FATCATs (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
40. Scalia is a political hack, FDR had the |
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ConcernedCanuk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
41. Scalia is dead on, again!! |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
42. Welcome to the American Inquisition. nt |
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Connonym (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
43. I suggest we try these tactics on Scalia |
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End Of The Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. torture, by its very definition |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. Scalia's Impeached Himself--Congress Must Follow Through |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
47. Scalia's Impeached Himself--Congress Must Follow Through |
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bamacrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. Shouldn't it? |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. I don't know that we executed the Japanese |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #51 |
65. N.B. We also prosecuted Nazi judges after the fall of the Third Reich -n/t |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
91. Which 6 Japanese officers and which of some 2000 |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
55. I rather doubt that the founding fathers were ok with torture |
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rcole11 (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Hypocrites |
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ReformedChris (252 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
56. Wow, he is such a "Strict Constructionist" that follows the Founders Constitutional Ideals... |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
58. Scalia is a Traitor to this Country |
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9119495 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
60. Screw GWB, impeach Scalia. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. On the first part, no thank you. On the second part, yes, let's. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
63. What about "due process?" You aren't supposed to punish anyone at all if you haven't established |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
67. Scalia is right. The Constitution does not outlaw torture. |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
68. That says it all about the state of the US right now |
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Rockerdem (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
71. Scalia is probably right |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
72. "I think there's just something sick about making entertainment out of real people's legal trouble" |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
73. link here |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
75. Only a constitutional originalist can up with nonsense like that. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
76. Aww, he's parsing "punishment." |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
77. US Judge Steps Into Torture Row |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. As someone in another thread on this said |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. But that logic is lost on Tony. |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Time for the powers that be to face the |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. can we recall |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
82. I wonder if he and Cheney talked this over together, as they have before, when they kept |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. in 3 words |
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pdefalla (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. When torture issues come up in the Supreme Court |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
84. I guess it's not "unusual" if we do a lot of it, right? |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
86. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as a Justice and assume that he is speaking as |
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Kelvin Mace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. Excuse me, I beg to differ, |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. I'm not convinced he's telling us how he'd rule on a torture case. And if he is, |
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citizen4democrats (14 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
95. Hopefully Obama will appoint good judges |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
96. Scalia is a sad, pathetic little man. n/t |
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BearSquirrel2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
98. Scalia is a ticking bomb of tortured logic ... |
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dogfacedboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-12-08 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
99. Then I guess Scalia won't mind being tortured. n/t |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
101. the Neo-Con judiciary stepping into the fray of the Torture Debate |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
102. It didn't outlaw slavery either, as long as we don't bother to define blacks as humans. |
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conspirator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
104. what about the guillotine. Does it outlaw that? Cause the US needs it NOW! n/t |
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Jeff In Milwaukee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-13-08 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
105. You know what I want to see? |
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