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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:13 AM
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UN transformation proposed to create 'new world order'
Source: Independent UK

Gordon Brown has begun secret talks with other world leaders on far-reaching reform of the United Nations Security Council as part of a drive to create a "new world order" and "global society".

The Prime Minister is drawing up plans to expand the number of permanent members in a move that will provoke fears that the veto enjoyed by Britain could be diluted eventually. The United States, France, Russia and China also have a veto but the number of members could be doubled to include India, Germany, Japan, Brazil and one or two African nations.

Mr Brown has discussed a shake-up of a structure created in 1945 to reflect the world's new challenges and power bases during his four-day trip to China and India. Last night, British sources revealed "intense discussions" on UN reform were under way and Mr Brown raised it whenever he met another world leader.





Read more: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/article3356210.ece
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:17 AM
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1. W created a New World ODOR.
The odor of rotting flesh and burning explosives. He really followed through on Poppy's vision, eh?

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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:28 PM
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2. Neo-cons hate the U.N. because it interferes with their plan for a world order! Power, power, power
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 12:33 PM
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3. NWO is coming and been in the works for awhile
United Nations is a tool of the New World Order

It will fail
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:46 PM
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7. ...
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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:15 PM
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4. Perhaps a necessary evil....
to unite the world in common causes, like taking down Bu$h types.
And stopping illegal occupations like Iraq.
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Elspeth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:18 PM
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5. If the coming crash tanks what is left of the American economy, this NWO will be easier
to install. Welcome North American Union....:scared:
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NGC_6822 Donating Member (113 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 01:40 PM
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6. The NWO will be dominated by Europe--France, Germany, and UK.
And those nations may eventually be under the thumb of Russia once Putin finishes his strangle hold on the energy supply into Europe. When Putin has his three poodles, the US will be out of the game permanently and some posters on this thread will be happy. By the way, where is the representative from the Middle East on this new Security Council? Iran would fit in nicely with Putin's dream NWO.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:09 PM
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8. This looks like a hoax
or at least questionable reporting. There's no mention of Brown actually saying "new world order" in so many words. There's also this wierd quote:

Mr Brown is to bring back honorary knighthoods and other awards for cricketers from Commonwealth countries. He said: "Cricket is one of the great things that bind the Commonwealth together. It used to be that great cricketers from the Commonwealth would be recognised by the British nation I would like to see some of the great players in the modern era honoured."

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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 03:19 PM
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10. The "new world order" phrase is reported elsewhere as coming from aides
Edited on Mon Jan-21-08 03:21 PM by muriel_volestrangler
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:03 PM
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13. Actually Gordon Brown has repeatedly said "New World Order"...
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 02:47 PM
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9. The European World Order, in other words.
How conveniently timed.

They're every bit as dangerous as the US PNAC crowd.
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arcos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 06:54 PM
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11. How is including Japan, India and Brazil an "European World Order"? nt
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 07:58 PM
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12. When one looks at the structure of who is running things, it's clear
It's Europe.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 08:45 PM
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14. Never going to happen.
Anything like this would have to go through the Security Council, and any of the permanent members can veto it, and it's pretty much guaranteed at least one of the five will absolutely refuse to lets its power be diluted by dint of allowing others to share it.

Reforming the Security Council is a fine idea, but it is difficult to the point of being essentially impossible by its very nature.
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pingzing58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-22-08 02:34 AM
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15. Question is does Brown subscribe to the U.S. Neo-Con agenda? I still believe is U.S. inspired.
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