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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:14 PM Original message |
Reversal Of Alzheimer's Symptoms Within Minutes In Human Study |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm surprised that there's actually a "Journal of Neuroinflammation"-- |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. That caught my eye as well |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. There's a journal for everything |
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PATRICK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. I see those every day at work |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. Neuroinflammation is a *Big Deal* |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Omega-3's purified fish oils |
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OKthatsIT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. Pure wild anchovy oils are even better. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:08 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Can we get the same benefit from non-fish oils? |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. YES!! |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Ooooo! Thanks, I had no idea, and I love walnuts! |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Great, thanks! |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. There are better. |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:38 AM Response to Reply #59 |
85. Gee, I think I'll try some hemp oil right now. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:33 AM Response to Reply #85 |
87. The poster said hempoil, not hemp. Hrrmph! |
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cyr330 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
129. hehehe |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
94. Welcome to DU! and thanks! |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #45 |
77. And flaxseed oil. n/t |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:10 AM Response to Reply #77 |
97. And flax seeds and flaxseed meal. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 04:32 AM Response to Reply #45 |
86. I eat walnuts every day. I just like them. I thought they were |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #45 |
92. How about peanuts or peanut butter? nt |
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lildreamer316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:29 AM Response to Reply #45 |
93. Umm...what if one is allergic to nuts? |
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lynnertic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #45 |
98. Walnuts are also thought to |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #45 |
100. Flax seed oil? |
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RoseMead (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:20 PM Response to Reply #100 |
115. Freeze the capsules to avoid the fishy taste |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. That's an idea, thanks nt |
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PADemD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #45 |
130. What about people who are allergic to walnuts? |
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seasat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #45 |
134. Cool, I use walnut oil in my bread. |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. the next best thing is oil from algae which is where the fish get their great |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:54 PM Response to Reply #23 |
125. Interesting re: omega-3 fa + uridine + choline @ MIT trial |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
132. Yes, a promising field in cancer research |
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greymattermom (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. Hey |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Cool - let us know if it gets accepted! |
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greymattermom (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Inflammation |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
81. Do you list any information on how to treat brain injury? |
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greymattermom (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #81 |
108. Working on it |
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BeyondThePale (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:50 AM Response to Reply #1 |
89. It is a relatively new journal and... |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
122. Here's the link... |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
2. That's great News |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. It sure is an evil disease..... |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Good news for my family, too. |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I think its justification |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. I agree. |
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enough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #25 |
90. This is an accurate description of the devastation this disease can bring to families. |
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bigscott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:54 AM Response to Reply #15 |
104. I agree with you Boss |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #104 |
111. I can easily |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
57. Eventually caused my Dad's death. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. Wow. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. Here's a link to a PDF of the actual article |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:33 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. tremendous news |
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Liberty Belle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
67. How? My Dad is in a nursing home with Alzheimer's; it is tearing us all up; |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I don't know yet, but it was done at UCLA, so not too far for you |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:30 PM Response to Original message |
9. That is good news, Alzheimers is a terrible disease, my mom suffered |
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A-Long-Little-Doggie (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. My mother-in-law is declining rapidly |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. I hope so too, but this drug is going to cost a GAZILLION dollars from the drug companies. |
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tinrobot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
38. Enbrel is $713.92 per box, to be exact |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Yikes, The dose is 25mg (1 vial) per week |
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lizerdbits (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. When does the patent expire? |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
91. Since the rule/law change, in the year 2214. |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. I am adding your edit back in; FUCK THE DRUG COMPANIES! |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Not necessarily, re: insurance coverage |
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pokercat999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. A good reason to nationalize the drug companies and |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. You got that right! |
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The Wizard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #39 |
95. It's cheaper than a nursing home |
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daveskilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #39 |
110. you may want to put the edit back in - |
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arendt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
14. I agree this is good news; but, for years, I have seen promising studies that didn't pan out... |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I agree with your cautious response |
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Auntie Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. Now watch the price of Enbrel quadrupole to the tenth power! |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
16. Thanks! ****The entire original article is FULL, OPEN ACCESS!!! **** |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Not only that -- it was submitted on Nov 29th |
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fed-up (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
17. this part doesn't sound so good: "etanercept given by injection in the spine" nt |
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Nothing Without Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. This is a way to get this preparation (an antibody) into the brain |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
101. Probably sounds worse than it is |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
21. Just some notes about Enbrel... |
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Tanuki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. The lead author, Edward Tobinick , owns stock in Amgen and has multiple patents, |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It would be interesting to see his investing timeline |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. and the co-author has a yahoo e-mail address.... |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
26. any bit of hope against this kind of nightmare is wonderful |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
27. Wow, I just realized something mind-blowing |
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momster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
30. Somebody Tell Terry Pratchett |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. Any mention of side effects? |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. It's a very well tolerated drug |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #36 |
47. It was developed for RHEUMATOID arthritis -- and the only treatment before |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. I don't really know too much about RA |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:03 PM Response to Reply #36 |
50. My mother had Alzheimer's so I realize that it is a blessing if it works. |
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eowyn_of_rohan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Whenever there is a medical breakthrough like this... |
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Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
63. I use Humira, another TNF blocker, and I have NO side effects at all. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:27 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Nice! How expensive is Humira, if you know? |
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Dem2theMax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:53 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Expen$ive! |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #79 |
83. Cripes! |
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MissDeeds (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. Do we dare hope? |
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TexasBushwhacker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
33. The thing that's great is that it's already FDA approved |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Which means that it's already undergone some safety testing, at least. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. Posting some more data here, for reference |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:26 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. The article says it was administered via the spine |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. I think it's only administered sub-cutaneously |
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Pierre.Suave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
52. Holy Crap |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
54. Woohoo! |
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Love Bug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
56. I lost my mother to alzheimer's six years ago |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
58. Some more interesting tidbits about the lead author |
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thecrow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:47 PM Response to Original message |
60. What I'd give for a week of my father being "himself" again |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. As noted upthread, about $150-200 per week |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
62. Looks like there are 3 TNF antagonists currently in use |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
65. ONE PATIENT and one journal author has serious conflicts of interest. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 08:21 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. That's (sort of) true. BUT |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #66 |
75. Cures the inflammation, but not the root cause of that inflammation. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:59 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. Yes, agreed -- it only addresses the symptoms |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #65 |
102. iirc, this was tried on chron's with no effect. chill out. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #102 |
118. Crohn's is not Alzheimer's |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #118 |
123. and alzheimers is not ra, either. chron's is more closely related that az. |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 06:27 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. It's not "one" patient - a prior (pilot) study was done witth 15 |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
74. My father has alzheimers, I'm not holding my breath |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
80. WOW!!!....this is a huge breakthrough!!! Hope Bush won't ban it!! |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-09-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
82. This is enormous. nt |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
84. Kickin' for the overnight crew |
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BigBearJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 07:08 AM Response to Original message |
88. Thanks for posting this! K/R! |
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Mark D. (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
96. Prevention |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
99. Wow. Wouldn't that be something? |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
103. This is good news. |
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colorado_ufo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
105. Some good news to start the day! |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
106. I hope to god this is true. My mom is slipping away. |
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connecticut yankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 12:16 PM Response to Original message |
107. That would be incredible if it works |
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daveskilt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
109. Sorry to burst this bubble but.... |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 01:59 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. There's no doubt that drug companies can be so motivated |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
113. You would need an intrathecal resevoir, right? Or a shunt to pump the med into |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Dose is given once per week |
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Savannah_H (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
117. how long before |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. There probably will be serious side effects |
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AikidoSoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #119 |
127. What bothers me a lot about this expensive, off-label drug |
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HannibalBarca (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
120. Interesting |
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Cant trust em (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
121. Of course, the Journal of Neuroinflammation |
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SomeGuyInEagan (872 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #121 |
124. And to think I let my subscription lapse! |
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cyr330 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-10-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
128. Wonderful! |
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skip fox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
131. Fantastic. My father died of it plus congestive heart failure. Terrible death. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-11-08 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
133. kick |
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