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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:11 AM Original message |
Kucinich files lawsuit after party denies him place on ballot |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
1. Oh my. He wouldn't take the oath. |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. Go get em Dennis and I wasn't aware that Willy was behind you.. I would... |
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Popol Vuh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:25 AM Response to Reply #2 |
103. Willy is a big Pro Legalize Pot Advocate |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. So loyalty oaths are DESIRED now? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. ITS THEIR PARTY |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. wow..you are busy... |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
109. The fact of the matter |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. What PRIVATE FUNCTION? |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
26. No answer from taylor egv420106, so far, I see. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #26 |
51. Maybe it is past its bedtime? |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Hehehehe... |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #26 |
111. Excuse me for sleeping |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #111 |
242. Ah yes, the old freeper delusion that all DUers are unemployed.. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:27 PM Response to Reply #242 |
256. Deleted message |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #242 |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:11 AM Response to Reply #11 |
110. Being on the Democratic Ballot |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #110 |
215. regardless, it goes against every principle of the Democratic Party. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #215 |
232. It's against the principles of the Dem party to ask for support of |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #232 |
306. Party before Country? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #215 |
257. There is a reason |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #257 |
307. Obviously, Kuch's lawyers don't think it's inarguable. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #307 |
360. gee, lawyers that are willing to be paid to argue an inarguable point... |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #215 |
352. Well, we are not exactly fond of Joe Lieberman for |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:40 PM Response to Reply #110 |
300. You did not answer my question |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #300 |
325. Still no answer. Big surprise... |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #325 |
336. No answer |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #336 |
339. Unfortunately... |
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bean fidhleir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #110 |
361. The Dem primary is PUBLICLY FUNDED. It's not private. (nt) |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #11 |
315. The half of our democracy controlled by the DNC/DLC. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
25. Lawn gnome? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
112. You post certainly was idiotic. |
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Webster Green (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:34 AM Response to Reply #112 |
239. Ooh, wicked comeback! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:31 PM Response to Reply #239 |
261. Deleted message |
taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
259. I bow to your expertise in idiotic posts. |
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BeHereNow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #259 |
351. We all have, but I think you may hold some sort of new record |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
27. excuse me?! Whose party?! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
57. If he wants the support of other Democrats in the event he is the nominee, |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:41 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. well, isn't that a deal he should be able to make himself? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. I think the party should be able to protect itself against the Liebermans and Naders |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:53 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. not if that protection comes from some Bush-like system. That's not protection that I'd want. |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:52 AM Response to Reply #70 |
138. God forbid |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 AM Original message |
what makes you think he finds it "inconvenient"? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
260. Tell you what |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #260 |
276. no thanks, but how about this: |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #68 |
187. Don't leave out hte Pelosi's!! |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:31 AM Response to Reply #68 |
218. Nader is not a Democrat. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:11 AM Response to Reply #218 |
355. Nader in the past ran as a Democrat, just as Lieberman did. n/t |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:14 AM Response to Reply #355 |
373. Uh, no. Nader NEVER sought office as a Democrat. |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #68 |
282. protect itself against the Liebermans and Naders ?? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 03:14 AM Response to Reply #282 |
356. We don't need to allow people to run as Democrats who don't intend |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #68 |
368. We already knew that Dennis wasn't going to do a Nader |
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John Gauger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:28 AM Response to Reply #57 |
217. There's a difference between |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
114. Are you foolish |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:43 PM Response to Reply #114 |
285. because the rules are fundamentally wrong? Is that reason enough? |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #5 |
29. True. Shit like this is why I left their useless party and went independent. |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #29 |
42. Watch out Zhade... be careful with declaring that, or you might get... |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
139. Oh get over yourself |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #139 |
326. Get over yourself... |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 AM Response to Reply #29 |
113. Hey! Hey! Hey! |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #113 |
115. Note to self. |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:14 AM Response to Reply #29 |
116. Yeah god forbid |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:48 AM Response to Reply #116 |
136. Coming from you, that's funny as hell. |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:53 AM Response to Reply #136 |
140. Why? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #140 |
233. OK, I'll play along: |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:32 PM Response to Reply #233 |
262. Newsflash |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:03 PM Response to Reply #262 |
275. No, "pointing out facts" isn't being trollish, anti-social or disruptive; YOUR posts are. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
63. No. It is OUR party and if we let folks who demand loyalty oaths take it over, |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
117. Yeah what kind of political party |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #117 |
198. Enjoy your stay, while you can. |
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1monster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #117 |
234. Excuse me, but what do you mean "their party"? I'm a member of the |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #234 |
263. They are elected |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
80. Calling Kucinich a 'lawn gnome' |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #5 |
118. While I agree with your right to express your opinion |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:20 AM Response to Reply #118 |
120. OK maybe that was a bit much |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #120 |
131. So,,, |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:54 AM Response to Reply #131 |
141. have you ever thought |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:06 AM Response to Reply #141 |
150. I only see you going after Kucinich |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:50 PM Response to Reply #150 |
327. Yeah, use of language like... |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:29 AM Response to Reply #141 |
161. You mean like the rules that kept him out of a debate because |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #161 |
247. Yes |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #141 |
290. This valuing of authoritarianism over democracy is ugly. n/t |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #290 |
343. Indeed... |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #120 |
148. I am a DK Supporter |
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boricua79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
186. lawn gnome? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:35 PM Response to Reply #186 |
264. Deleted message |
Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
199. I wouldn't sign a "loyalty oath" either. But I will support the Democratic |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
214. I see your point. |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #214 |
237. And the corollary to that |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #237 |
248. Ahem |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #237 |
272. Not at all. |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #5 |
224. Go feed the fucking elk. |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #224 |
265. want to translate that |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #265 |
269. Elk Grove Village |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:52 AM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Why should Kucinich be able to run as a Democrat if he won't support |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Deleted sub-thread |
Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
30. Since when did party members have to swear loyalty oaths? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #30 |
40. There's nothing new about candidates running on a party's primary ballot |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I don't care whether it's "new" or not... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Why? If DK doesn't agree, he can run as an independent. |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. It's sad that the "Democratic" Party has become so paranoid... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #55 |
61. Maybe we've learned from people like Joe Lieberman and Ralph Nader, |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:36 AM Response to Reply #61 |
162. yea, that kept them in line, right? They signed and that kept them loyal-not nt |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #61 |
184. I remember on this this board... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
331. Don't be so proud... |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #55 |
181. I find it sad that you just used a broad bruch to paint the Democratic Party. We are talking about |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #181 |
332. No, we're talking about DUers like MGKrebs. But are you saying that you oppose this? |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #53 |
192. Kucinich isn't the issue, IMO |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:19 PM Response to Reply #53 |
293. You mean like Democrats "backed" George McGovern after he won the |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #293 |
323. Ouch!... Good shot! |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
142. You find |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:06 AM Response to Reply #142 |
206. Taylor. You don't get it. There is no doubt Dennis would support the Democratic nominee. |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #206 |
258. Wrong. If he were to pull a Zell Miller and publically endorse |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #258 |
338. Let there be repercussions... |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:18 PM Response to Reply #338 |
342. OK, so when you start your own party, you can define the criteria by which |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #342 |
345. Right now I'm worried about the fact that you support Texas... |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #206 |
266. No I am not new here |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #266 |
284. So, what name were you using the last time you got tombstoned? |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #284 |
346. Yeah, and while you're at it, explain what "private function" you were referring to earlier... |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #266 |
334. Not new??? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #40 |
212. This is about the primary ballot? |
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Texas_Kat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:37 AM Response to Reply #30 |
62. It's written that way to keep Republicans in Texas from running as Dems |
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susanr516 (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #62 |
193. Important to understand about Texas |
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Psyop Samurai (873 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #193 |
333. Thanks for that explanation... |
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susanr516 (823 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #333 |
349. LOL! |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:16 AM Response to Reply #30 |
119. What a monstrously ignorant post |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #119 |
210. Are you sure you're in the right place? Why are you making fun of short people? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. how is he supposed to know who's going to be on the ballot? |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
56. Indeed... and that's only the tip of the iceberg in terms of... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:39 AM Response to Reply #37 |
64. He knows that anyone who runs is willing to support whatever Democrat wins. |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I disagree |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Because he knows that the person is enough of a Democrat to be willing |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:51 AM Response to Reply #67 |
69. how so? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
73. Why should the party give a spot on its primary ballot to a candidate |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:10 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. because of what you said!! |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:15 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. If Lieberman had signed something like that when he ran in the Democratic |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:28 AM Response to Reply #90 |
94. oh please.... voters wouldn't take this into account |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:33 AM Response to Reply #94 |
188. The oath was already in place |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:55 AM Response to Reply #188 |
226. "just has to keep his mouth shut" - doesn't that scare you? |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:14 AM Response to Reply #226 |
229. Ok, so he can run as an independent |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:18 AM Response to Reply #229 |
230. This has nothing to do with him running in the general election, it has to do with principle. |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #230 |
236. Do you love Liberman? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:32 AM Response to Reply #236 |
238. nope, and I've pointed out before, that your arguments are some of the same ones that Lieberman used |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #238 |
335. Indeed, and this whole thing is scary... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #229 |
245. Absurd |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #67 |
164. Is there a jail term or fine? nt |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:54 AM Response to Reply #64 |
82. I wonder if Lieberman ever signed those oaths... |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
175. Why should he be required to take an oath??? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:44 AM Response to Reply #3 |
78. What Zhade said. |
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mallard (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
130. Re: armbands and moose-stepping |
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hisownpetard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:32 AM Response to Reply #130 |
219. I think you meant "goose-stepping," not "moose-stepping," but since it's Texas |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
294. You make no sense |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:18 AM Response to Original message |
4. what if the nominee turns out to be Huckabee? well, its possible.... nt |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Well maybe its a space alien |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:12 AM Response to Reply #6 |
89. you really have nothing of substance to say, do you? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:21 AM Response to Reply #89 |
122. Oh gee |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #122 |
132. Of course,,, |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:59 AM Response to Reply #132 |
143. Read the original post I responded to |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:14 AM Response to Reply #143 |
157. Sorry |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:55 AM Response to Reply #89 |
169. Just joined over 'vacation' and probably lives in a basement |
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Phx_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #169 |
205. That's kind of funny |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
14. Sure. If Huckabee magically turned into a Democrat and got on the ballot on all 50 states and |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. You think it's possible that Huckabee would sign that oath? I don't. n/t |
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Wwagsthedog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
7. Needless to say... |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:25 AM Response to Original message |
8. Gonna spam the entirety of DU with this, poster? |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
128. Taylor only pops up for these things |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #128 |
144. Well lord knows |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #144 |
153. And yet statistically I seem to be right |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #153 |
267. Well with your lack of understanding of statistics |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
9. get over yourself Dennis |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:15 AM Response to Reply #9 |
41. whoa!!! that is some fucked up shit right there!! |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. I agree... |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:26 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. as do I |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
12. Fuck off, Dennis. |
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MalloyLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
13. If you can't support the Democrat, fuck you! |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #13 |
49. What exactly does it mean to "support the Democrat", I wonder... |
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MalloyLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:47 AM Response to Reply #49 |
79. Voting for them over the Republican! |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:46 AM Response to Reply #79 |
135. Yeah right |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:26 AM Response to Reply #135 |
216. If he's so opposed to the Dem process, shouldn't he run as an independent, |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #216 |
243. uhm what??! |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #243 |
249. By definition he is opposing the process. The form is part of the process. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #249 |
250. Uhm right |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #250 |
341. Thank you so much, kenfrequed... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #79 |
330. LOL... do you hear yourself, MalloyLiberal... |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #13 |
165. what if he would support the Dem, but doesn't support loyalty oaths? nt |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #165 |
223. Don't bring that up... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:39 PM Response to Reply #13 |
299. When the shoe was on the other foot back in 1972 when George |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:41 AM Response to Original message |
15. If you want on the ballot, comply with the rules |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. You vil comply or else. DK doesn't fit with the Democratic Party machine. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. He's free to run as an independent. n/t |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
235. Exactly. And that's exactly what we don't want. If the Democratic Party |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Thanks, "rhett o rick"... |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:04 AM Response to Reply #28 |
87. No kidding! Looks like the totalitarian flu is hitting some dems too |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #17 |
32. More like, loyalty oaths are so 1940s Germany! |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Thank you, Zhade! |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #15 |
19. If he wants on the ballot |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:01 AM Response to Reply #15 |
145. Unfortunately |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #145 |
244. As if loyalty oaths were not the ultimate group think. |
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The Sushi Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
16. FUCK loyalty oaths! |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. The point is... |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Yes, but you support democracy. |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. Exactly. |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. It's imposed by both parties |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:19 AM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Thank you for saying that |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
86. Welcome to DU! |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
301. The machine that gave us LBJ and the eventual turncoat John Connolly , , , |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. Kucinich is free to run as an independent if he doesn't want to align himself |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
31. Both party's have been hijacked |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
91. People who think that shouldn't run as Democrats, but as independents. n/t |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:43 PM Response to Reply #31 |
324. That is ridiculous |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
45. If you keep taking that position... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:18 AM Response to Reply #45 |
92. Many of those people weren't Democrats to begin with. |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:28 AM Response to Reply #92 |
95. From the rules |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #95 |
317. Good point, Fedja. Disagreement is healthy. And welcome to DU! n/t |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:02 AM Response to Reply #45 |
146. Yeah the only option |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #20 |
271. You should be careful with that talk. You might get what you're wishing for. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
24. Only in Texas... |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Reply #24 |
33. Indeed, and it's frightening... |
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TroubleMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
34. A loyalty oath.....are they crazy? |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:14 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yeah, and sadly... |
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Justyce (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
107. Texas does it to try to prevent republicans from running as dems. |
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Baby Snooks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #107 |
190. Well you understood wrong |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:09 AM Response to Reply #190 |
209. Thank you! |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:14 AM Response to Original message |
39. While I would Like to See All Losing Primary Contenders Support the Eventual Nominee |
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hooraydems06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #39 |
60. Indeed... |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #39 |
191. He can run as an independent |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #191 |
273. Is that what you want? A leftist independent candidacy? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #273 |
277. I want our Democratic candidates to promise that they will not support a leftist independent |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:00 PM Response to Reply #191 |
274. Self-delete: DUPE |
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swag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
47. I wonder what really happened. |
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syberlion (110 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:33 AM Response to Original message |
58. The reason for the loyalty oath is because |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #58 |
372. It's the CONSERVATIVE Dems who party-switch in Texas, not the progressive populists. |
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RadioactiveCarrot (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
71. I haven't got to read this entire thread, |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:12 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. be afraid, be very afraid. |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:04 AM Response to Reply #71 |
147. See the beginning of your post speaks volumes |
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RadioactiveCarrot (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #147 |
200. The beginning of my post *does* speak volumes. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #71 |
201. Hi, RadioactiveCarrot! |
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RadioactiveCarrot (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #201 |
202. Oh hey :D |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
72. This from the state Democratic Party that looked the other way |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
194. How many of the Democrats who were running the party 30 years ago are even still alive, |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #194 |
366. Clearly, its only those in the right wing of Texas Democrats who insisted on this. |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #72 |
303. Yes, it's ironic. Those insisting that DK comply with Texas Dem Party |
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KingOfLostSouls (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
76. Wow, a lot of people attacking the Democratic Party |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. And the Partei(sic) decisions are divine and beyond attack. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:59 AM Response to Reply #76 |
108. This thread has done more for outing the non-Democrats here at DU |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:37 AM Response to Reply #108 |
241. lots of "party loyalists" being outed as well |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #241 |
296. You can add me to that list. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:43 PM Response to Reply #241 |
313. That's a good thing |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:51 PM Response to Reply #313 |
316. and it's times like these that i'm thankful to be an indy |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
295. Very true |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 06:26 PM Response to Reply #108 |
362. That is hilarious coming from someone that defended Joe Lieberman. n/t |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:26 AM Response to Original message |
77. Kucinich is right on this. |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:53 AM Response to Original message |
81. How McCarthyist of the Democratic Party. |
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gtar100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:19 AM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Where are the black people in that picture? |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:29 AM Response to Reply #93 |
96. the pic was from 1950 so that might explain it. |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:05 AM Response to Reply #81 |
149. Yeah how dare they |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
337. "The" Democratic party???? |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:55 AM Response to Original message |
83. ok, I'm Txan, and they dissed my 1st choice. As a practical matter, |
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denem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:18 AM Response to Reply #83 |
102. RON PAUL EOM |
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frog92969 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:57 AM Response to Original message |
85. Thank you Dennis! |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:05 AM Response to Original message |
88. What's next? A blacklist? |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:33 AM Response to Reply #88 |
97. next? You didn't get it already? |
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stimbox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:41 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. First are the oaths and then comes the blacklist. n/t |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:48 AM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Gravel's already on it |
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Yukari Yakumo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:10 AM Response to Original message |
100. F' DK. |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 05:59 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Quite a bit is. |
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hayu_lol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:42 AM Response to Reply #101 |
105. At the time Dennis applied to be on the ballot, |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:23 AM Response to Reply #101 |
123. Nobody is signing off a civil right |
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harmonicon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #123 |
286. you just contradicted yourself there. |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:30 AM Response to Reply #100 |
127. How hilariously ironic that you're pointing out "Rule 2" under the post title "F' DK" |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #100 |
167. Lemmings have rules too… |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #167 |
304. Stop insulting lemmings by equating them with humans. As |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 07:06 AM Response to Reply #304 |
357. Yes, I see your point, my apologies to all lemmings… |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
104. This is beginning to make much more sense… |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:24 AM Response to Reply #104 |
124. That was a foolish comment |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #124 |
133. Curiously lacking in your post was your own opinion of said rule |
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elaineb (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:13 AM Response to Reply #133 |
156. Oh, by the way... |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #124 |
221. Too you, ‘add hoc’ and undemocratic rules might seem fine for the misled naïve but |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:47 AM Response to Original message |
106. Loyalty oath - I'm all for it |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
121. Loyalty Oath? |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
125. Fucking Texas! |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
126. So whatever delegates he wins aren't really obligated to vote for him, right? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:07 AM Response to Reply #126 |
151. No no no |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:12 AM Response to Reply #126 |
155. Exactly! |
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Ravachol (138 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #126 |
177. Well, perhaps because they know him... |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:47 AM Response to Reply #177 |
195. He willingly chose to run as a Democrat. |
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idiocracyhell (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:36 AM Response to Original message |
129. Kucinich puts principles before politics. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:37 AM Response to Reply #129 |
163. Hi, idiocracyhell. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:05 AM Response to Reply #129 |
173. Congrats |
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MGKrebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:20 AM Response to Reply #129 |
179. That's what Zell Miller and Lieberman think they are doing. |
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rjones2818 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
134. I seem to remember about a month or so ago... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
137. I feel like I'm in that Twilight Zone segment when the guy... |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:09 AM Response to Reply #137 |
152. Why the hell |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:20 AM Response to Reply #152 |
158. Why the hell |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:33 AM Response to Reply #152 |
220. Well... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #152 |
291. Maybe it has to do with ethics, morality, patriotism, intelligence... |
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AlertLurker (877 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
154. I realize that Texas is, politically, a little odd, BUT: |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:21 AM Response to Original message |
159. Ok, that's three things I know of now |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Close :) |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #160 |
166. Ok, whatever |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #166 |
171. It's a quiet alienation |
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JNelson6563 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #171 |
196. The pledge to the early states didn't bother him |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:53 AM Response to Reply #160 |
168. It's only unfair to people like Kucinich and Lieberman who refuse to support the Democratic nominee |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:12 AM Response to Reply #168 |
213. He's challenging a violation of the Constitution, not refusing to support the nominee. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:18 AM Response to Reply #213 |
358. Kucinich has been voting with the Republicans on key bills a lot lately: |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #358 |
363. They were lame appeasement bills that Bu*h was going to veto anyway. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:38 AM Response to Reply #363 |
364. His being 'perceptive' led him to vote against the SCHIP bill |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #364 |
370. “You may fool all the people some of the time, |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-06-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #370 |
374. I suppose it is easier to attack my motives rather then disprove my arguements, but |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
170. That's it. I will no longer be a member of the Texas Democratic Party |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
172. I'm Sure DK Would Have Agreed to the oath |
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Fedja (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #172 |
176. Technically |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #176 |
183. True but in looking at the other prospects |
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sellitman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
174. Sounds like Kucinich is ready to support Ron Paul again. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #174 |
255. Or Ralph Nader, or Cynthia McKinney... |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:12 AM Response to Original message |
178. Such blather |
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john_jons (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #178 |
208. This is ridiculous. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #208 |
222. Nice strawman you've constructed there. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #222 |
246. How is that a strawman? |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:09 PM Response to Reply #246 |
253. Yes, I do. Do you? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #253 |
287. No, no, no. |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #287 |
308. Actually, "loyalty oath" itself is the strawman |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #308 |
312. Actually, what is foolish here... |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #222 |
279. People who say if you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #279 |
318. This reminds me of the hilarious (in a black comedy sense) scene |
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john_jons (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:11 PM Response to Reply #222 |
289. Oh man, you are messed up. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #222 |
302. Somebody Needs a Dictionary (nt) |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:21 AM Response to Original message |
180. WESTERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS, |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
182. How UnDemocratic of the Dem Party |
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rockybelt (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
185. Give em hell Dennis |
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IsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
189. I have mixed feelings about such a oath. It does seem authoritarian in some ways (chimp like), |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
197. Get ready for it... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:13 PM Response to Reply #197 |
320. get ready to eat crow.. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
203. When was such a Democratic party loyalty oath implemented in Texas |
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NorthCarolina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:02 AM Response to Original message |
204. Statement From DK |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #204 |
280. Yep, sure does... |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
207. The Joe Lieberman Fan Club tag team is out bashing Dennis again. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #207 |
228. Kucinich is the one acting like Lieberman, not promising to support the Democratic nominee |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #228 |
231. He's challenging a violation of the Constitution. Not swearing an oath |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #231 |
254. There is no violation of the Constitution |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #254 |
278. Or... |
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Tarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #278 |
305. Well, since they're not |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #305 |
310. And why aren't they wrong? |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #310 |
314. Because rules are made by authorities and are to be obeyed without question. |
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ElboRuum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #314 |
359. I think we've just called 'BINGO'... |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:16 PM Response to Reply #254 |
321. love it or leave it, right? |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:00 PM Response to Reply #231 |
319. did he feel less strongly about the Constitution in 2004 or did texas not require a pledge |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #319 |
347. Don't know. But I'd be really pissed off if someone tried to make |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:29 PM Response to Reply #207 |
297. You have that a bit backwards |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #297 |
344. Once again: Dennis is not in any way saying that he is not going to |
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john_jons (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
211. This is ridiculous. |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
225. The Democratic Party is acting like the rethug party.............. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #225 |
252. The Republican party requires its candidates to promise to support the Democratic nominee? |
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taylor egv420106 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #252 |
268. Damn |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #225 |
340. If I read the article correctly, this is the doing of only the TEXAS Democratic party |
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Gen. Jack D. Ripper (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
227. My loyalty would always be to the US Constitution first |
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Prisoner_Number_Six (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
240. "Gimme EAT!" |
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RoseMead (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #240 |
251. Give EVERYBODY eat! |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:19 PM Response to Reply #251 |
322. molly has been painted as a traitor by some on this board.. |
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RoseMead (953 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #322 |
365. Well, "some on this board" |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
281. Howcome you didn't spam DU when Lieberman endorsed McCain? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 02:32 PM Response to Reply #281 |
283. Lieberman isn't running for the Democratic nomination |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:14 PM Response to Reply #283 |
292. Do you also support coercion? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:38 PM Response to Reply #292 |
298. Kucinich attempted to run for Ohio Governor as an independent in 1986, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:10 PM Response to Reply #298 |
309. You're right. He's a 21 year old time bomb waiting to go off. |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #309 |
353. More like a dud |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #298 |
369. So we're punishing people over ancient history now? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
288. Gee, if I didn't know better I'd see this oath requirement as indicative of a lack of confidence |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
311. How about a $10 million "money bomb" |
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Anarcho-Socialist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
328. It's been a while since I've seen the fallacy Reductio ad Hitlerum |
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Desertrose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 07:52 PM Response to Original message |
329. Good for Dennis! Loyalty oath? |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-03-08 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
348. Oh, to be a fly on the wall of the DU offices (virtual, and otherwise) n/t |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
350. You want to have access to the Dem's warchest? Then it makes sense you'd have to sign a loyalty oath |
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silverojo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-04-08 02:24 AM Response to Original message |
354. Kucinich needs to STFU |
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Infinite Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 08:26 PM Response to Original message |
367. Loyalty oath is party rules and I don't think there's anything a court can do about that. n/t |
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ccharles000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-05-08 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
371. good for him |
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