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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:15 PM Original message |
Bhutto died after hitting sun roof (PIC) |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. A knock backwards hitting that metal door at the base of the skull could easily do it |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Here's the video |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. Ummmm.... bullshit. |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. which means it was still a result of the suicide bomber. eom |
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Tempest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Or getting shot in the neck |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
41. Exactly.. |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. In figure skating I had 5 concussions 1 year |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
35. " I feel your pain" |
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Ilsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
59. Oh man. The last time I fell on the ice it was straight down onto my spine. |
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AZlineman (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. Yea. OK |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Nevermind. AZlineman is among the departed. |
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DipsoDan (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. You believe Musharraf? |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 11:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. Arlen Specter was in Pakistan to meet with her |
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DipsoDan (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. Too funny! |
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Dan (595 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 09:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. I always felt the bullet that had a |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #53 |
70. How freaky is that?! Perhaps there is a Dulles Family member willing to investigate her death. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
54. will you PLEASE start being more careful! n/t |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Yeah, that's good advice. I was pondering such things while in repose on the deck. |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
5. For the Doubting Thomases out there: |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Right, Except For The Pakistani Govt. Is ... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:11 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. What they "say" goes through translators and the "phone game". |
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DipsoDan (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #23 |
65. Who are you really? |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. The Pakistan govt said the sun roof lever hit her. The lever killed her! Sounds like an automotive |
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bigworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. That's an awful lot of blood for a bang on the head |
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petersjo02 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Head wounds bleed like crazy |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Naw, they bleed profusely. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
78. As do I. People die from blunt force trauma all the time. |
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underpants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. Some more discussion here- low quality x-ray, could be anyone's |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Seems plausible to me as well -- she was still killed by the explosion |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
28. No! The explosion could have been the source of force, but timing is wrong. |
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Barrett808 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. A generous interpretation is that she may have had gunshot or shrapnel wounds... |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Very possibly... |
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Jersey Ginny (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 10:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
51. Yes, this sounds possible, the question we may never have the answer for |
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DipsoDan (8 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. Not so fast! |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Like her family who say she was shot in the head. |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
7. Maybe the force of the explosion as she fell down jammed her |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. But what about the report yesterday morning, that she had a gunshot wound in her chest and another |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. I don't know, really it all smells to me. |
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tomhayes (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Even if that's the case |
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Mike Nelson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. The Lies Begin... |
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Xenotime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 04:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Is there ANYBODY who is not under the influence of *'s administration? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. why does it matter what the exact cause of death is? |
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Girlieman (399 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. How convenient |
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superconnected (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Good one. And likely the most accurate assesment. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #14 |
38. how so? her death is still a result of the bombing. |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
16. Next: blame lack of seatbelts |
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Hayabusa (561 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. RE |
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LisaM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:21 PM Response to Original message |
19. And since custom dictated she be buried so quickly |
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Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
20. Don't Believe 1/2 Of What You Hear And None Of What You See |
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old guy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
21. As I posted yesterday, |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
22. Wow. That lets everyone off the hook. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 06:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. who does it let off the hook, and how? |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. Who it lets off the hook? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 08:35 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. you're really reaching...er...convoluting things all around. |
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cornermouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Oh absolutely. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 06:05 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. ... |
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CJCRANE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. Mush may not need to |
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durtee librul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #40 |
73. Ok, Bhutto was being chased by the paparazzi |
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GirlinContempt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
25. I read that yahoo story this morning |
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anitar1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
26. I don't buy it and we will never have proof that it is true. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 08:36 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. however she actually died, the bombing was still the cause of it. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
31. Shot then bombed, bombed then shot, bombed but not shot, bumped head but not shot or bombed. |
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ohio2007 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Done in by PSI pressure applied by the vest worn on either - |
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Kierkegaard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #31 |
79. Hmmm... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 07:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. Are they backing off the sniper story? |
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Lady President (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
43. ".... perhaps ducked" |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 08:34 PM Response to Original message |
44. Next they will say she died of middle age! |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
47. Skydiver killed, not by tragic fall, but by abrupt landing on Planet Earth! |
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ckramer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
48. Bhutto died after licking the toys |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-28-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
52. They just cannot come to terms with having a WOMAN martyr |
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Matilda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 03:24 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. You might just have nailed it. |
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Chovexani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 06:21 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. We have a winner |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
60. Looks (possibly) like a splash of blood on the white trim piece in photo #2 |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 05:21 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Bhutto bled gallons of blood according to CNN; and a health worker |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
72. Good grief...she died because of the attack. Period. What's wrong with the USA |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 11:52 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. If a bullet caused her death, then Musharaff;s gov't looks complicit |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #75 |
86. I don't think so. |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 08:45 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. A Gov't hit would be done thru a bullet so bystanders wouldn't... |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. That's your assumption. If that's such an obvious conclusion, then why |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #72 |
94. and posted in "BREAKING NEWS!!1! OMG!!!11!!!1!!" no less |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-29-07 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
74. i believe martyrdom is the main issue for |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:44 AM Response to Original message |
76. Murder, by one means or another. |
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Satyagrahi (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
77. John Moore's photos show the fireball of the explosion engulfing the SUV. |
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kitty1 (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. And this same "official report" that makes statements about... |
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Satyagrahi (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. Interestingly the official (medical) report does not rule out that shrapnel |
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Satyagrahi (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. I was wrong. A Channel 4 video clearly shows that she was shot. |
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rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Yep..as the shots were heard |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. "The official report " - that's your problem right there. |
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NeoConsSuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
85. All the blood in that vehicle. It reminds me |
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two gun sid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
87. That is a lot of fuckin' blood for a fractured skull... |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
88. UK Ch 4 has video showing her being shot, dropping into SUV before bombing. |
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IDemo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-30-07 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
90. The evidence is overwhelming: she died of gunshot(s), and they lied, clumsily. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
92. If she died from hitting her head on that lever, |
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Satyagrahi (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. To be fair, they said right from the start that it was the shock wave |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-31-07 03:14 PM Response to Original message |
95. Ahhh... More "Magic" BS |
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Garbo 2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-01-08 05:06 PM Response to Original message |
96. CNN: Ministry backtracks on Bhutto sunroof claims |
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