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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:38 PM
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Reid to Keep Senate in Session over Thanksgiving to Prevent Recess Appointments
Source: Roll Call

By Erin P. Billings
Roll Call Staff
Friday, Nov. 16, 2007

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) has decided to keep the chamber in session over the Thanksgiving break to block President Bush from making any unsavory recess appointments while Senators are out of town.

In a statement inserted in the record Friday, the Majority Leader said he will hold the Senate in a series of pro forma or nonvoting sessions to prevent the controversial practice. In the statement, Reid argued that nominations need to get on track, and that Bush has not met the Democrats “halfway” in agreeing to Democratically backed nominees to “important commissions.”

“While an election year looms, significant progress can still be made on nominations,” Reid said. “I am committed to making that progress if the President will meet me halfway. “But that progress can’t be made if the President seeks controversial recess appointments and fails to make Democratic appointments to important commissions.”

Senate sources said Reid made the decision after he was unable to strike a deal with White House officials that would have allowed swift consideration of several key Democratic picks for the executive branch. In his statement, Reid points to the Federal Communications Commission, Federal Energy Regulatory Commission and Nuclear Regulatory Commission as examples where Democratic choices have not been moved along....

Read more: http://www.rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/21044-1.html
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caseycoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:42 PM
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1. Thank you, Harry! n/t
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lyonn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:45 PM
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2. Points for Harry!.......nt
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:45 PM
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3. That sound you hear in the distance is Herr Decider cussing a blue streak
Good on ya, Harry!
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:51 PM
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4. Isn't this a sad commentary about our government twhen the Senate Majority
Leader has to resort to this tactic to keep our president from making any more political appointments?

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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:02 PM
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5. omg somebody bought Reid one of these...(pic)
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movonne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:27 PM
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6. Well, I think that should have been a no brainer...and they had
better do it over the Christmas holidays and any other that should come up while bush is in the White House....
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:29 PM
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7. The President is dishonest; this has to be done
How sad that I actually had to type that. I really hate this administration.

Thank you Leader Reid.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:32 PM
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8. Thank you Harry.
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azmesa207 Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:55 PM
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9. I'll thank Harry if he doesn't fold again under a little pressure from republicans
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:16 PM
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10. This possibility was discussed last night
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 05:30 PM by xxqqqzme
on Countdown. KO was wondering if Reid had the spine to do it. I was wondering the same thing. John Dean said (on the 'Broken Government' segment) 'Well, I hope he(Reid) does it'. I hope he does it over thanksgiving and I hope he does it over Christmas too.

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-US&brand=msnbc&vid=38659b61-5c0c-4629-ba7a-e15a6a7275c0

KO should be talking about this tonight.
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Audio_Al Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:50 PM
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13. Thanks, XXQQQZME. Had to choose between Countdown and the Dems last night at 5PM PT.
Appreciate your posting this link.

Respectfully,



Al
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Audio_Al Donating Member (536 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:47 PM
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11. Amen and hallelujah! Just heard this on AAR while driving home from the radio station.
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 05:48 PM by Audio_Al
Almost let go of the steering wheel because I was clapping so hard...

Respectfully,



Audio Al
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:48 PM
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12. K&R - Way to Go Senator Reid! n/t
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 06:09 PM
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14. This is a good idea
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 07:34 PM
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15. Are they leanring to play rePIG ball? Thank you Harry.
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:17 AM
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16. Hey! He's DOING something!
Who are you, and what have you done with my Majority Leader?
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:05 PM
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17. kick
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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18. Senate stays in session to block Bush recess appointments
Source: cnn



updated 44 minutes ago

Senate stays in session to block Bush recess appointments


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senators have left town for the Thanksgiving holiday, but the Senate will technically stay in session -- a move that keeps President Bush from making appointments while lawmakers are in recess.


The Senate will hold "pro forma sessions" while lawmakers are gone for the Thanksgiving holiday.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, said he would schedule "pro forma" sessions during the two-week break, even though lawmakers will be absent and no business will be conducted.

The Constitution gives a president the power to fill vacancies without the Senate's confirmation when the legislative body is in recess. Such appointees can serve without confirmation through the rest of the current session of Congress, which ends in January 2009.

...........

"My hope is that this will prompt the president to see that it is in our mutual interests for the nominations process to get back on track," Reid said in a statement.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/11/19/senate.reid/index.html?section=cnn_topstories&eref=yahoo
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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19. Republicans might go along with the extra funding of domestic programs if Democrats agree to pass th
The Democratic-authored spending bills have been stalled. They are $22 billion more than what Bush said he would agree to spend this year.


The White House quickly rejected a proposal from Reid to halve the extra funding to $11 billion. Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Arizona, floated a counter offer, suggesting Republicans might go along with the extra funding of domestic programs if Democrats agree to pass the war money free of conditions.

There has been no official response yet from Democratic leaders, but one Democratic aide said he didn't think his bosses would accept Kyl's proposal. E-mail to a friend

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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20. I think we should call Harry Reid's office to say THANK YOU!!!
ANY monkeywrench thrown into bush's machinery is good for the rest of us.

Seems weird, though. Harry Reid actually playing hardball???
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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28. YES, A LITTLE HONEY WOULD HELP HIM. PUT IN THE CALL
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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21. Good move. n/t
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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22. I feel so good about this move
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 10:40 AM by MaineDem
This is awesome!

Can't you just imagine the foot stopping petulance going on at 1600? I love it.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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23. Good move. It's a sign of how degraded the process has become under
the Rethugs, though. Maybe I just don't remember my history but I can't remember this happening under any previous administration.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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27. Sadly, we have to street fight. They don't want to evolve, they want
a dog eat dog world, and we have to fight them, because they see appeasement as weakness and just attack more like a rabid dog.
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Mike Daniels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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34. Recess appts. may have been rare at one time but those days seem to be over
Clinton made 140 / GHW Bush made 77 / Reagan over 200

Bush has made 167 to date.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recess_appointments
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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24. Finally, imagine if they had done this all the other times. Better late
than never.
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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25. And Christmas.....?
It would be nice if Senators decided to have Christmas in Washington with their families.

There will be this huge Christmas tree on the Ellipse. It is always so pretty. Each state gets its own tree to decorate, too...

If they don't stay in session for Christmas and New Years, too, they will only be delaying his appointments by a month.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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26. Good move Harry. I need to call and thank you for doing your job.
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bain_sidhe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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29. some mis (or dis) information here, I think...
The Constitution gives a president the power to fill vacancies without the Senate's confirmation when the legislative body is in recess. Such appointees can serve without confirmation through the rest of the current session of Congress, which ends in January 2009.


I am not even a lawyer, let alone a constitutional scholar, but there's some dispute about whether the Constitution gives a president the power to fill vacancies that already exist before the recess. The actual language says:

"The President shall have Power to fill up all Vacancies that may happen during the Recess of the Senate, by granting Commissions which shall expire at the End of their next Session."


There are at least some constitutional scholars who say that this "recess appointment power" was meant *only* to fill vacancies that happen during the recess, nominees that the Senate has not had any chance to consider - not one that they've had for several months and have declined to confirm by the time the recess takes place. Some federal circuit courts have rejected that interpretation, but the Supreme Court has never ruled on it. So it seems to me to make a blanket statement that the resident has this power without acknowledging the question is, at the very least, incomplete reporting.

It may be a small thing, but it's a hallmark of Publican tactics (aided and abetted by their lapdog media) to keep repeating a contested opinion as fact until the public accepts it as fact. I think we should be more agressive in challenging them when they do it.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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30. It is mostly just a point of contention among scholars.
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 02:22 PM by tritsofme
In practice precedence reins, and the current system of recess appointments has gone unchallenged through presidents of both political parties with friendly and hostile congresses.

It is also unlikely that the courts would weigh in on a "political question"
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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32. Bush v. Gore
When the outcome is important enough, the Court will weigh in on political questions.
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tritsofme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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33. Its not very likely that the court would deem a practice
With a longstanding precedent, that is not very controversial, important enough to enter the fray.
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spotbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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35. If Bush uses the
recess appointment anyway they may have to, assuming the Senate complains (a gigantic assumption).
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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39. of course the other consideration is
when has this bunch of criminals EVER let the Constitution stop anything they wanted to do?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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36. There is some disagreement
But, yes, this practice has been followed by presidents of both parties in the past. It's been only in the last 15 years that it's become a bone of contention, basically boiling down to one thing: Republican intransigence.

Clinton first began using recess appointments because the Senate wasn't holding hearings at all on his nominees. One of the most egregious examples of unconscionable delay was the proposed appointment of Ronnie White to the federal bench. After delaying any hearings on his appointment for years, then finally moving it out of committee, the Republican-dominated Senate sat on the nomination for 17 months, refusing to hold a floor vote on the nomination. White's crime, besides being proposed by Clinton? Well, it didn't have anything to do with race, we can be very sure of that, because David Brooks says that Republicans aren't really racist. It was a mere coincidence that White is Black.

Meanwhile, Bush used the Clinton precedent to wait around for the Senate to recess before naming clod after clod to high positions in his government. It's not like the Senate was delaying implementing any of Bush's destructive policies and appointments; Bush just didn't want some of his nominees to have to answer a bunch of nosy questions from Democrats, particularly ones that were none of anybody's business. So we got Heckuva Job Brown and so many others to grace the running of our government, when any sane person wouldn't have let these people run an electric train.

I'd like to see recess appointments go back to their originally intended purpose, which is to fill an unexpected opening on an emergency basis. But it's just such a ripe little abuse of power that invites its misuse, I'm afraid that neither the Democrats nor the Republicans are willing to set rules for its use.
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boricua79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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31. as they should...
that's why we elected them.
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rumpel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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37. BIG k&r
:)
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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38. According to Rachel Maddow, here's how it's done
Edited on Mon Nov-19-07 04:01 PM by rocknation
Enter the Senate floor. Go to desk that contain the gavel. Bang gavel. Say the the following:

"THE SENATE IS IN SESSION! One Mississippi, two Mississippi, three Mississippi...THIS SENATE SESSION IS CLOSED!"

Bang the gavel again. Leave. Repeat every three days until the congressional recess ends.

:rofl:
rocknation
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humbled_opinion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 06:06 PM
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40. yeah.. n/t
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