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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:04 AM
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Pasta monster gets academic attention
Source: AP-Yahoo

" When some of the world's leading religious scholars gather in San Diego this weekend, pasta will be on the intellectual menu. They'll be talking about a satirical pseudo-deity called the Flying Spaghetti Monster, whose growing pop culture fame gets laughs but also raises serious questions about the essence of religion.
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The appearance of the Flying Spaghetti Monster on the agenda of the American Academy of Religion's annual meeting gives a kind of scholarly imprimatur to a phenomenon that first emerged in 2005, during the debate in Kansas over whether intelligent design should be taught in public school sciences classes...."



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071116/ap_on_re_us/flying_spaghetti_monster;_ylt=Akz72OZYnewtv8xM6xn89fxH2ocA



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Yessir, I want to hear how well balanced mentally all the religious bigwigs are: takes a certain brain (dis)order to hold serious discussions on such as the 'Flying Spaghetti Monster'. I suppose though, all things considered ol' Pasta Puss has as much claim to reality as do the various deities this bunch of bi-peds create in their incompletely evolved cranial bits and pieces.

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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:05 AM
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1. Life Imitating Art
I swan.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:09 AM
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2. As a pastafarian, I say it's about time.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:29 AM
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7. RAMEN!!!! n/t
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:34 PM
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68. The pastafarian bible says the sauce was created in 6 days while the FSM
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 03:34 PM by wordpix
rested on the 7th. :)
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:50 AM
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73. All hail the (totally not made up, unlike all other religions) FSM (Sauce Be Upon Him)!
NT!

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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:15 AM
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3. There are no FSM skeptics in foxholes.
HIS noodley appendage will protect you.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:17 AM
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4. Ramen!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:18 AM
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5. LOL! n/t
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:23 AM
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6. I demand equal consideration for the Invisible Pink Unicorn!



It is common when discussing the Invisible Pink Unicorn to point out that because She is invisible, no one can prove that She does not exist. This is a parody of similar theistic claims about God — that God, as creator of the universe, is not subject to its laws and thus not materially detecting him tells us nothing about his existence or lack thereof. (It has likewise been said that trying to find god is like using a metal detector to search for unicorns in one's sock drawer.) The Invisible Pink Unicorn is an illustration of the absurdity of citing attributes and a lack of evidence as proof of a deity's existence. Her two defining attributes, invisibility and color (pink), are inconsistent and contradictory; this is part of the satire. The paradox of something being invisible yet having visible characteristics (e.g., color) is reflected in some East Asian cultures, wherein an "invisible red string" is said to connect people who have a shared or linked destiny.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:31 AM
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8. You damn "unicorners", all you want to do is keep us pastafarians down.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:45 AM
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10. Dang straight. I declare Holy Macaroni War against the Unicorners.
Strangle them with sphagetti linguini.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:20 AM
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17. RAMEN!! I call a zitifah!!!!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:25 AM
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19. Eighty linguini virgins await martyrs to the cause!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:08 PM
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37. The saints Alfredo and Boyardee
stand ready to assist.

The jumping off point is at the Gardenia Olivia.
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:33 PM
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43. Saint Georgio and Saint Rice o Roni as well.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:25 PM
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54. Along with the angel
Hair.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:19 PM
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62. I'm holding out for Extra Virgin myself. n/t
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:13 PM
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60. meatball them! meatball them!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:33 AM
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21. These people clearly do not understand string theory
...which is obsolete anyway.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:37 AM
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9. Ridicule is the only sensible approach to organized religious dogma. nt
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:48 AM
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11. I want to know what they're serving at the lunch
Will they be worshiping His Noodly Goodness, or just eating veggie wraps?
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:21 AM
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18. Tripe and a lot of ham! ;) n/t
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:06 PM
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34. Sounds like an appropriate menu for a religion conference
:hide:
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:54 AM
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12. Arrrrrh!
They can take their "scholarly imprimatur" and shove it off starboard.
I don't need no stinking "scholarly imprimatur" to believe in Her Noodley Goodness.

May the Sauce be with you!
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:30 PM
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55. I have a serious question. Why do Pastaferians speak Pirate?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 06:02 PM
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57. Because.....
Truth be told, I don't know.
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kath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 11:24 AM
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67. From the original letter to the Kansas School Board:
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 11:29 AM by kath
I’m sure you now realize how important it is that your students are taught this alternate theory. It is absolutely imperative that they realize that observable evidence is at the discretion of a Flying Spaghetti Monster. Furthermore, it is disrespectful to teach our beliefs without wearing His chosen outfit, which of course is full pirate regalia. I cannot stress the importance of this enough, and unfortunately cannot describe in detail why this must be done as I fear this letter is already becoming too long. The concise explanation is that He becomes angry if we don’t.

You may be interested to know that global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of Pirates since the 1800s. For your interest, I have included a graph of the approximate number of pirates versus the average global temperature over the last 200 years. As you can see, there is a statistically significant inverse relationship between pirates and global temperature.



There may be more on the Pastafarian website re: the crucial importance of pirates (no time to look right now):
http://www.venganza.org/

{on edit - found this at Wikipedia:}
According to the Pastafarian belief system, pirates are "absolute divine beings" and the original Pastafarians.<4> Their image as "thieves and outcasts" is misinformation spread by Christian theologians in the Middle Ages and Hare Krishnas. Pastafarianism says that they were in fact "peace-loving explorers and spreaders of good will" who distributed candy to small children, and adds that modern pirates are in no way similar to "the fun-loving buccaneers from history." Pastafarians celebrate International Talk Like a Pirate Day on the 19th of September.

The inclusion of pirates in Pastafarianism was part of Henderson's original letter to the Kansas School Board. It illustrated that correlation does not equal causation. Henderson put forth the argument that "global warming, earthquakes, hurricanes, and other natural disasters are a direct effect of the shrinking numbers of pirates since the 1800s."<4> A chart accompanying the letter shows that as the number of pirates decreased, global temperatures increased; the absurdity of this demonstrates how statistically significant correlations do not imply a causal relationship (see confounding).


The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster

The Gospel of The Flying Spaghetti MonsterMain article: The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster
In December 2005, Bobby Henderson received a reported USD $80,000 advance to pen The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Henderson said he plans to use the proceeds from the sale of the book to build a pirate ship, with which he may travel the world in order to convert heathens to the Pastafarian religion.<19> The book was released on March 28, 2006 (ISBN 0-8129-7656-8).

The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is the Pastafarian equivalent of the Bible. It parodies biblical figures with characters such as Captain Mosey, a pirate and the FSM equivalent of Moses. The Gospel contains the aforementioned Eight "I'd Really Rather You Didn'ts." It also provides information on how to convert non-"Pastafarians" and explains many of the religion's beliefs (for example, that lack of pirates causes global warming).


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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 02:47 PM
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71. Thank you! I'm trying to get up to speed on FSM doctrine.
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AlGore-08.com Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:59 AM
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13. But will they attend the conference dressed as pirates?


After the conference, they can kick back at the San Diego Maritime Museum!

http://www.sdmaritime.com/ContentPage.asp?ContentID=273





Some of the most famous pirates in history prowled the world’s largest ocean. Pirates of the Pacific will highlight the exploits of famous pirates like William Dampier, a sophisticated buccaneer who mixed an interest in natural science and geography with a lust for adventure.

The exhibit will also focus on Chinese famous pirates that threatened merchant ships in the South China Sea for nearly 100 years before a squadron of Royal Navy warships destroyed the pirate fleet. Pirates of the Pacific will satisfy people’s timeless fascination and insatiable curiosity about famous pirates with a marvelous collection of artifacts, pictures and hands-on exhibits.

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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:39 PM
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27. What Came First? FSM or Kingdom of Loathing?
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 12:40 PM by Crisco
I'm thinking KoL was the original pasta pirate adventure.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:36 PM
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69. Watch out, blasphemer, or the end of boiling times cometh
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:04 PM
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51. Perhaps George Harrison will be there in spirit
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:04 AM
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14. May Your Balls Always Be Meaty And Your Days Blessed W/ Fresh Parmesan
n/t
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Paulie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:11 AM
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15. Soba!
:)
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:13 AM
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16. Blaspemers will be drowned in a deluge of marinara!
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 06:24 PM
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58. Boiled in salty water
Then drizzled with a good extra virgin olive oil.

His will be done.

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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:28 AM
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20. Who are you calling, "pseudo," pitiful Earthling???
Why I'm as real as Mohammed, Yaweh, Ganesh, Budda, and all of the other non-testable deities!!!!

How dare you, AP. This is a clear cut example of deity RACISM.

Ramen.
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BB1 Donating Member (671 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:44 AM
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22. After the meeting, the Flying Spaghetti Monster was overheard saying:
"That's a spice meat-a-ball-a!"
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:53 AM
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74. Wow, I actually DID lol, haha!
NT!

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 11:44 AM
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23. Let them "explain" The Miracle:
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 11:55 AM by troubleinwinter
The Pirate Ship on the Mountain-





Let them EXPLAIN how a pirate ship lands half-buried in a mountainside, if not by the divine power of Pasta!

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:06 PM
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24. And the little children came...
.. and they heard the stories of the ancient pirates, and they believed.

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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:52 PM
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28. On my pilgimage there, I saw the beautiful rendition of 'Our Lady of White Clam Sauce',
adorned with a clam shell on each breast.

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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:41 PM
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70. FSM's hole-y vision is etched in my colander - thousands are making the pilgrimage
to see it
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:23 PM
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25. It's true; it's even being covered on CNN!
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 12:36 PM
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26. Long live Pastafarians!
only with a dose of the absurd can the truly absurd be quantified.

Who knows? Maybe gothic cathedrals will be raised to his Noodliness and we'll be worshipping by partaking in the sacred breadstick dipped in the blessed marinara in the future.

There are worse things that could happen :evilgrin:
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:12 PM
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38. They cathedrals already exist
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:03 PM
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29. Touched By His Noodly Appendage!


um, how do Pastafarians know it's a "he"?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:55 PM
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31. Probably by the (meat)balls! (NT)
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:49 PM
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30. How very blasphemous!!!!!!
It's "Flying Spaghetti Monster," not "Pasta Monster." Sure, adherents are sometimes referred to as "Pastafarians," but the entity itself is the FSM.

;-)
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:55 PM
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48. I agree...heretics with false idols, the lot of 'em! ;)
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 05:08 PM
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56. Yes, he might be confused with the slightly hovering linguini monster.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 01:57 PM
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32. Pastafarians! nt
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:05 PM
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33. I'm hungry. n/t
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:06 PM
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35. Calm down people...
After all, WWFSMD?
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Didereaux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:57 PM
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49. WWFSMD? He'd noodle the lot of 'em, he would!
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:07 PM
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36. It takes a Kansas to call such a diety into being.
You see, there IS symmetry in the universe.

:rofl:
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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:16 PM
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39. RAmen!
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:18 PM
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40. I love it!
Edited on Fri Nov-16-07 03:42 PM by silverweb
All hail the Noodly One!



Edited to add awesome FSM smilie and pirate.

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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:20 PM
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41. Missed again!
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deepthought42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:23 PM
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42. ARR!
Blessed be His Pastaness, may you be touched by his Noodly Appendage...

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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:40 PM
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45. Holy Semolina! Where is that?
????
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:03 PM
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50. Baltimore!!!!!
like 2 miles from my house!
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:12 PM
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53. Bawlmer, Hon. n/t
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:34 PM
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44. the scholars will point out how obvious it is that people want to believe in something
either that or they're just really really hungry

:9
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:42 PM
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46. Will they discuss the Great Ravioli Schism?
The Buffet Counter-Reformation?

The Diet of Vermicelli?
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 04:06 PM
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52. you forget the other great schism in the FSM religion
The Marinarans on one side, the clam sauce devotees on the other. Alas, FSMism is not immune to schims.
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NobleCynic Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 03:18 AM
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63. Do not discount the eastern varieties in FSM
Edited on Sat Nov-17-07 03:20 AM by NobleCynic
The Meinian reformation of Chao asking for equality for our fried brothers?

The great soba uprising of 1912 which further split the congregation along grain lines? The church is still recovering from the damage those buckwheat heathens caused.

And heretical cults aligned to surely demonic influenced pastas? The dark servants of tortellini and penne, or even Vermicelli himself? I shudder to think of such things...
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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-19-07 12:56 AM
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75. I just want it noted, this post is brilliant.
NT1

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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 03:51 PM
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47. LOL
One of my colleagues at my university started a scholarly journal on new and emerging religions. This would be right up his alley. All hail the noodle-some one.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 07:40 PM
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59. Pasta monster ? Jeepers Creepers how insulting.
AP should show some respect. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is the correct term.
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bluerum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-16-07 10:14 PM
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61. Come on - the MSM. Lucky they can read and write.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 05:54 AM
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64. Flying Spaghetti Monster is as much a deity as Jesus or L. Ron Hubbard
After all, by its very nature, religion is a set of irrational beliefs.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:14 AM
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65. K&R from a recent FSM convert.
"For thine is the Pasta, and the Parmigiana, and the Pesto Forever, Ramen."
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-17-07 07:15 AM
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66. And here's one of our traditional Holiday Celebrations:
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-18-07 05:23 PM
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72. Arr says he, where be your Buccaneers?
Under me Buccanhat says I!

Hear our prayers, Blessed Virgin Olive Oil

Ramen.
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