Rosie's MSNBC show deal is dead

[seriousstan]

Source: Rosie's blog

msnbc
one hour
live
following keith olbermann

we were close to a deal
almost done
i let it slip in miami
causing panic on the studio end

well
what can u do

2day there is no deal
poof
my career as a pundit is over
b4 it began

just as well
i figure
everything happens for a reason
bashert - as we say

and on we go



Read more: http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/11/07/the-show-that-never-was/

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This is probably outside the strict rules of LBN but I think news broke by those involved is the most LBN you can get.

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

1. Good---Rosie has had it and might as well face it.

[KAZ]

5. Hmm. Why is that? And Hannity, Limpballs, ...

.. Scarborough, Beck, and the rest of the fucking Nazis still live on. But according to you "Rosie has had it".

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

8. She isn't funny anymore----she used to be. How do you think

she made her money?

[Lerkfish]

11. you tell me, then, how she "made her money"

what you going on about?

[Fed_Up_Grammy]

21. She made her money by being very funny-----that's how !

[olddad56]

26. she was funny, she was entertaining, she was provacative...

then, unfortunately, she, like so many of us, couldn't ignore what was going on around her any longer and she got serious. She got angry and her anger did her in. She got in too many fights, she became too confrontational for her shtick. It alienated her from what she did best, and that was comedy. Serious anger kills comedy and unfortunately for her, comedy was what she did best. Comedians have to be funny and light to be appreciated, Rosie's heart got heavy, and she lost her voice to the masses. Too bad, she had a lot of truth to speak.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

33. olddad56, Rosie's heart got heavy. She was one of the few who spoke the truth...

...and even the people here, people who want to get the word out, degrades her. What a shame.

[olddad56]

43. she spoke her truth ...

on a big stage, in a society where people are always looking for a reason to knock people out of the spotlight. I think it is a shame to, but I understand the dynamic. Her ability to make people think and laugh earned her a spot on a big stage. When she started using her platform to try and make a difference, she got disgraced because her detractors were able to get to her. She couldn't help but react, once she did, they had her. They drug her down off of the stage. I don't even think that the average TV watcher wants to hear the truth. Then want a respite from this cold ugly world.

[customerserviceguy]

51. I remember

when she was funny. Now, she's become a caracature of herself.

[KAZ]

12. She boosted ratings. It's well known...

Rosie O'Donnell's provocative style on The View helped boost ratings, up 17% overall.
I could post a hundred links. Here's one.

http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2007-04-25-rosie-rants_N.htm

[MADem]

29. Well, they HAVE had it, that bunch. They have a DUMBER audience base, is all. NT

[Lerkfish]

10. really? why?

she spoke her liberal mind. You got a problem with that I guess?

[KAZ]

15. What's even worse is bumping an SS thread. Though, I just

did it again. DOH!

[Bluebear]

42. Rosie is true blue and a blessing to GLBT folk

[Le Taz Hot]

49. Damnit it!!!

These uppity women with opinions who aren't afraid to express them. She needs to get back in her place and entertain us! Damn it!!!!!

[mark414]

2. good

we don't need more entertainment blended with and presented as news. we don't need more entertainers pretending to be journalists. i am very glad this deal fell through and hope they find a qualified person who's not prone to hyperbole and a loud mouth.

[KAZ]

9. Then you need a lesson in what sells.

Just keep wiping your nose bleeds from sitting on your high horse.

[mark414]

14. ?

there's no doubt in my mind that rosie would make msnbc a lot of money.

there is also no doubt in my mind that we do not need entertainers pretending to be journalists. it does news a disservice.

newsrooms used to be unprofitable businesses, because they were concerned about the news and the truth first and everything else second. it is no longer like that. i don't care what sells, i want real news.

[KAZ]

18. I know where you're coming from Mark, but those days are gone.

I feel the same as you about "real news", but our country is dying, and we have to fight back on their level. I don't want to denigrate "the masses", but they seem to understand that level of "reporting". Desperate times.

[mallard]

53. Re: 'no doubt in my mind'

Well, you wouldn't be forced to watch.

Maybe she has a potential message - aside from willingness to trounce on Bush - that you don't want her to deliver!

She's questioned the official 9/11 story - if you don't already know.

[mark414]

57. no

i don't like her personality. it has nothing to do with her message.

is it possible for someone to just not like a person without there being some ulterior motive?

[juajen]

25. Hmmm, do you feel that way about Al Franken?

N/T

[mark414]

32. no

Rosie is a loud mouthed blowhard that argues on emotion instead of reasoned facts and analysis.

This is more about my disliking of Rosie O'Donnell than anything else, I will be honest.

[Mojambo]

3. Does she really write like that?

Ugh.

[seriousstan]

6. Yes, all of her blog entries are like that.

[MADem]

13. Wow, she rejected that catholic teaching in ALL its forms, I guess!

Sister Mary EnglishTeacher must be spinning in her grave!

I'm sorry, and yes, I am an old fart, but that b-4 and c-u L8r crap is childish and lazy. It's hard to take someone seriously when they communicate ALL THE TIME in that fashion.

More to the point, I never minded Rosie's rants. She acknowledges she is on psychiatric drugs and she's probably sometimes a bit 'noncompliant.' But what bugged me was when she went after Barbara Walters so viciously. No call for that, whatsoever. It certainly didn't work out the way Rosie might have hoped, either, that attack.

[DURHAM D]

17. What in the world are you talking about?

Re: "went after Barbara..." You don't know squat.

[Name removed]

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[MADem]

27. In her BOOK?? The one that tanked as soon as it came out???

If anyone "doesn't know squat" I believe that would be YOU. Idealize much???

http://www.newsday.com/features/booksmags/ny-ettop5414160oct17,0,6121442.story

From a review:

Rosie O'Donnell's new memoir "Celebrity Detox (The Fame Game)" strikes me as an account of O'Donnell's re-emergence into the public spotlight after the four-year hiatus that followed the end of her talk show. She covers her year on ABC's "The View," and the surrounding controversies: her feud with Donald Trump, with her cohost Elisabeth Hasselbeck, and her adoring/fractious relationship with Barbara Walters....Of course, celebrities should be treated like human beings. They deserve a private life. But if such small things as being recognized in the supermarket or in your primo seats at the U.S. Open are such a hassle, if being expected to do a segment on pets on a morning coffee-klatch show offends your sense of what's important, maybe you picked the wrong line of work.



http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20055783,00.html

Rosie O'Donnell Tells Barbara Walters to Retire

Rosie O'Donnell has some words of advice for Barbara Walters: Go, already.

In her upcoming memoir, Celebrity Detox, which sheds light on, among other episodes in her life, the TV star's tumultuous stint last season on The View, O'Donnell, 45, addresses Walters, 77, to say, "And Barbara. At some point, a person gets tired. It's inevitable," the New York Post reports.

"Barbara Walters is almost twice my age," the book (which is to be published Oct. 9) is quoted as saying. "At some point it becomes necessary to step back. Everyone has to go. Going is part of the gig."

O'Donnell also reportedly states, "I would be less-than-honest if I were to say that there is no trouble between Barbara and I. I mean, our differences are obvious."

http://www.webmd.com/news/20010817/rosie-other-celebs-put-face-on-mental-illness
Aug. 17, 2001 -- In this month's issue of her magazine "Rosie," talk show queen Rosie O'Donnell says she is one of the "haunted," referring to her lengthy battle with depression.

http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2007/03/08/rosie-odonnell-inversion-therapy/
A story hit the wires today about Rosie O’Donnell discussing her experience with depression on her TV show The View. She reported that she has battled depression and seasonal mood problems for an extended period of time, and then advocated for treatment. According to the article (I have been unable to find video of the show) she discussed taking antidepressant medication and also doing “inversion therapy” where she “hangs upside down by a swing for 15 to 30 minutes a day.”



http://www.postchronicle.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=32&num=103360

Rosie O'Donnell's New Book Reveals She Broke Her Own Limbs As A Child
by Gia Cortina

Rosie O'Donnell new book reveals she used to break her own limbs with either a baseball bat or a wooden hanger when she was a child...Roger Friedman, who has read the book, says this passage is "heart-breaking". Rosie, who lost her mother at the age of 10, felt that she couldn't get attention or sympathy in another other way.

She broke her own bones, she recalls, "my hands and fingers usually. No one knew. It was a secret." She used a Mets baseball bat that she got on bat day or the hanger. Why you ask? It was "proof I had some value, enough to be fixed". She recalls that she was no longer sad about her mother's death, but "distracted."

Rosie also reveals another clue about her childhood ... "There were many benefits to having a cast. In the middle of the night, it was a weapon."

Why Rosie would feel the need for a weapon in the middle of the night is not addressed, leaving us wonder, what she has not come forward with....In addition, in a good part of the book, Rosie talks about her rocky relationship with Barbara Walters.

[DURHAM D]

37. Blah, Blah, Blah - tabloid.

You should stop reading such hyped tripe.

I have read the book. Many people won't/can't/don't get her book. You would likely be one of them - as is that asshole guy who wrote the first review you posted - he just made up shit. Actually he probably wrote the review from tabloid chatter.

As for her depression - she has talked about it for years. You seem to think that is somehow a mark against her. Hope neither you or a loved one suffers from same as you clearly have made a moral judgment against people who suffer from it. I suspect your real problem is that she is a loud mouthed lesbian.

As for your comment about her going after BW and the specific reason for why I responded that you don't know squat - I read her blog everyday. Lots of info there. I have exchanged emails with her. Barbara and Rosie are still friends. Rosie loves and respects Barbara and BW feels same. They have attended various events together post The View and talk regularly.

Yep - she really went after Babs and it didn't work out. Jeez

Just for the record - I am glad she did not work further on a contract with MSNBC. It would simply not work for her.

[MADem]

39. Gee, you "seem to" make assumptions about what I "feel" and that's a bad trait.

I don't think her depression is a mark against her, FWIW, but I also think she's on more than antidepressants, or should be. And I don't think it's a "moral judgment" either. But hey, way to bullshit!! What it IS, though, is a demotivator for a potential employer, especially if your prosepective employee demonstrates a publicized, repeated history of outbursts and dramatics that suggest at least some degree of medical noncompliance.

See, by one's ACTIONS we know them.

It doesn't really matter what she "means" or "thinks" either--she is the author of that book, and that book is pretty fucking vicious to Walters. Ageist, too.

Ms. Walters is a class act, much like her father. She doesn't let much get to her. That doesn't excuse O'Donnell's rudeness or cruelty towards her, though.

[DURHAM D]

40. Obviously you have not read the book?

If you actually had you would change your idea of who was cruel?

You posted several items about her depression (some of those items seemed favorable) - seems like your moral judgment to me.

In my opinion (not Rosie's) BW is anything but a class act. Her best friend for 40-50 years was Roy Cohen - they served as each other's beard. He was one of the most vile men on the planet. BW is amoral.

[MADem]

44. OK, if I post "favorable" items, that reflects badly on my "moral judgment" to YOU?

Whatever. You just flunked the logic test, there.

And your comment that Barbara Walters is a lesbian owing to her association with a fellow whose name you misspelled says plenty about you, albeit much of it, I am sure, unintended.

What's wrong with that, even if we did decide to ignore the woman's life history, and assume it's true? Being closeted isn't a crime, is it?

Gee, wouldn't John Warner be surprised to learn your titillating little unsourced rumor! To say nothing of her three husbands.

Your "beard" assertion, too, doesn't fit her life timeline, either. But don't let facts get in your way when you're shopping shit without cites.

You don't suppose that Mr. Cohn's assistance with her adoption of her daugher, who is gay, BTW, might have had something to do with their friendship? Gee, could that BE??? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Walters

Walters has been married three times. As she told The New York Times in 1996, "I'm convinced that you stay married when the days are bad only because you really want to be. But I always had an out. I had this job, and this life and enough money. I didn't have to fight the bad days."<8> Her husbands were: Robert Henry Katz, a business executive and former Navy lieutenant, married 20 June 1955 at the Plaza hotel in New York City; the marriage was reportedly annulled in 1958.<1><12> Lee Guber, theatrical producer and theater owner, married on December 8, 1963; divorced 1976. One daughter, Jacqueline Dena Guber (born 1968, adopted same year). Merv Adelson, the CEO of Lorimar Television; married 1986, divorced in 1992.

The lawyer Roy Cohn said that he proposed to Walters the night before her wedding to Lee Guber, which Walters has denied.<6> Jerry Oppenheimer explains Walter's somewhat puzzling lifelong devotion to Roy Cohn—which extended to publicly asserting that though she had dated him, she had no idea he was gay, and that she believed his claim that he was dying of liver cancer rather than AIDS— as gratitude for his help in her adoption of Jacqueline.<13> She dated former U.S. Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan in the 1970s <14> and her name was linked to United States Senator John Warner in the 1990s. <15>

[RaleighNCDUer]

34. I thought it was Ba Ba Wa Wa that went after HER.

I've never understood the hostility for Rosie.

And the real fight was with the simple-minded Bushie on the program who, IMO, couldn't decide if she disliked her more for being a leftie or a lesbian.

[MADem]

36. No. She went after Ms. Walters in her BOOK. nt

[annabanana]

4. HEY MSNBC!! GIVE IT TO RACHEL MADDOW!

I'd rather watch an hour of her/ anytime!

[PSPS]

7. Now that's a show I'd watch! (Rachel Maddow)

Her AA radio show is the only truly informative program on any medium today.

[allisonthegreat]

71. there you go n/t

[shireen]

16. go Rachel!

WRite to MSNBC and tell 'em to hire Rachel!

[Ilsa]

31. That would be great, and she's a pro at politics, literally.

I don't have anything against Rosie, but alot of people are turned off by her right now. I'd rather have Rachel, and she has a very pleasant voice.

[edbermac]

20. Great show by KO tonight; he was really laying the smack on Bill-O and FAUX.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

[kstewart33]

22. MSNBC made the right call.

There's a pattern with Rosie. With her own show and then The View, she achieves success, gets bored, and then creates a controversy and leaves.

This babe needs excitement all the time and alot of attention. When she doesn't get it, vamoose. She's gone.

Glad that MSNBC saw the writing on the wall and passed on her. There are other liberal gals with more stability and staying power.

Rosie will find her thrills somewhere else.

[DURHAM D]

38. What controversy did she create with her own show? n/t

[MADem]

59. She went from the happy morning show, to leaping all over Tom Selleck when he came to hype a film.

She ambushed him over his NRA stance (he made a commercial for them) after his publicist had received assurances that the appearance would just deal with the film.

At one point in time, her show was one that kids could watch. It was lighthearted, not-too-deep, sorta Mike Douglas/Merv Griffin type fare.

Then it started to get a bit darker, I think.

[stillcool]

23. wow....the responses are stunning...

almost as if...people have a choice...on who, what MSNBC chooses to fill the air with. The comments about 'entertainers' being 'news-commentators' is kind of funny too. I guess it's true...the more you watch the less you know.

[MADem]

28. I think the responses have more to do with O'Donnell's dramatics and unreliability, not the

'infotainment' aspect.

If you're turning on your TV to get 'in-depth' news, you're wasting your time. It's almost all crap; some is just slightly less crappy than much of it.

The GE-Universal/GOP family will hire someone who can get a decent share (that's a valuable hour in election years) and who can be counted on to pull in the viewers and show up to work, reliably, without offending large swathes of the population or making the program "all about them."

[stillcool]

30. I don't watch...

I don't come here very often anymore either...but every time I do I'm reminded of why I should stay away. Too bad there isn't a forum for humanism.

[Naturyl]

65. There is a forum for humanism

I know because I created it.

http://humanism.yuku.com

[antiimperialist]

24. Why dont they give a show to Randi Rhodes instead

She's smarter.

[mth44sc]

35. Whew - that was close

come on MSNBC - give us something credible...

Hey - how about 2 hours of Keith

[2Design]

41. wow this thread looks like it was invade by the other side - rosie is blue

through and through - we need more people to fight for blue america - the congress critters aren't except kunich

[MADem]

60. Just because someone is "blue" doesn't give them carte blanche to be rude. NT

[Chomskyite]

45. David Schuster? Is he busy?

After seeing what that guy did to a number of Right-wing pizzlebrains, I'd like to see what he'd do with an hour of airtime five nights a week.

[Robbien]

46. Giving this a recommend

Yup, not really qualifies as LBN under the rules, but really qualifies as LBN as a late breaking really relevant point of interest news.

So now we know. Well how about that.

[TruthSleuth]

47. It was never mean to be

[Ian David]

48. Rosie should release a brand of super-premium vodka. n/t

[Gold Metal Flake]

50. Fine. Give Rachel Maddow a show.

[tom_paine]

52. She is not really the best representer of our side.

n/t

[ozu]

54. The writing ...

The writing on her blog looks like poetry written in text message speak.

Yes, I know that if I don't like the style I don't have to read it, but if she's trying to present herself as an informed and intelligent person capable of being a infotainment news pundit, she really should start using sentences, actual words, and maybe toss in some punctuation.

Edit: This wasn't supposed to be a reply to the above poster's comment. I'm just getting used to the forums.

[otohara]

55. Too Bad

She would have been a powerful voice against occupation. She was awesome on The View. Now they discuss stupid stuff like finding the perfect bra.

[Xenotime]

56. This is too bad. I was hoping to see Rosie tell people how it is.

[RamboLiberal]

58. More from Rosie on the lost deal

Rosie O'Donnell is speaking out again on her blog about her talks with MSNBC — this time in a video entry.

"It's all right," O'Donnell tells viewers about the MSNBC gig not working out. "You gotta believe what happens is supposed to happen. We were in the bottom of the ninth inning, we were almost there, the game was almost over...

"It's okay, cause I'm not quite sure that a pundit would have been the best thing for me. But who knows, I was willing to maybe try it. But just as well.

"But hey, Keith Olbermann, the best news show on TV. If you're only going to watch one, watch that guy. Important stuff he's saying every night. Bravo, Keith Olbermann."

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/

[Divine Discontent]

61. I WOULD HAVE LOVED TO SEE HER ON MSNBC

anyone saying differently is questionable as being a liberal Dem, no other way to call it... sorry. she spoke up on the view for issues that have LITTLE mention on mainstream TV, GOD BLESS HER!,

as a man who is gay, I love her for speaking the truth! One of my fave stickers I've ever made---

[cstanleytech]

62. Yeah she would have been interesting to watch thats for sure.

I dont fully agree with all her stances like on the whole Kmart gun thing but her heart is in the right place and atleast she is willing to stand up for her views and not backdown and she has to be respected for that.

[Divine Discontent]

63. right on

even if someone doesn't like how she goes about stuff, or her upset demeanor when she gets rolling, she IS entertaining, on topic, and means well...

thanks for replying

[fujiyama]

68. So if I find her obnoxious and irritating

it's questionable whether I'm a liberal democrat?

Now, considering MSNBC has given such creeps as Tucker Carlson a show, Rosie would be a step up...

[D-Sooner]

69. Oh really?

She implied that our troops in Iraq are the real terrorists. If I disagree with that, then I'm not a liberal democrat?

[Naturyl]

64. She's done, never to be a major force again

And it's all because she brought up a forbidden topic - one so forbidden that I'd better not mention it here, either.

But we all know what it was, and that's why she's finished.

[Vinca]

66. Good. I don't care for her. nt

[rocktivity]

67. SHE "let it slip causing panic on the studio end"?

Maybe there was ANOTHER source of the studio's panic--like threats from advertisers or the Bush monarchy itself...

:scared:
rocknation

[humbled_opinion]

70. Shame really is she has a lot to say and that would have been a good platform

to get the truth out.