U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,850

[Hissyspit]

Source: Associated Press

U.S. Military Deaths in Iraq at 3,850
By The Associated Press – 3 hours ago

As of Saturday, Nov. 3, 2007, at least 3,850 members of the U.S. military have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count. The figure includes eight military civilians. At least 3,131 died as a result of hostile action, according to the military's numbers.

The AP count is 10 higher than the Defense Department's tally, last updated Friday at 10 a.m. EDT.

The British military has reported 171 deaths; Italy, 33; Ukraine, 18; Poland, 21; Bulgaria, 13; Spain, 11; Denmark, seven; El Salvador, five; Slovakia, four; Latvia, three; Estonia, Netherlands, Thailand, Romania, two each; and Australia, Hungary, Kazakhstan, South Korea, one death each.

The latest deaths reported by the military:
- A soldier was killed Thursday by an explosive south of Baghdad.
- A soldier died Saturday in an non-combat related explosion in Salahuddin province.

Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5gqgQCcv26kB1dkgZRZNHmbn_1J8gD8SMGB700

[Islander Expat]

1. I think these are only the people that have died in Iraq, not counting..

those they lose after being medivaced out of the country.

[frogcycle]

2. wrong

[alcibiades_mystery]

4. False

It's everybody, including people wounded in Iraq who died months later.

[Islander Expat]

8. How do you know that?

You counted em all?

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. I know

1) Many of the listed KIA's died outside the country. This debunks your initial claim.
2) You have no evidence to the contrary, and nobody else does either. Merely stating "This administration would do anything!" is not evidence, by the way.
3) Enough about the world to find the idea of hidden KIA's in an information age dubious at best.

That's all I need to know. You made a claim and you were wrong about it. You have no evidence to prove your claim, and there is plenty of evidence to prove your claim wrong. It's not really that complicated.

[TheWraith]

11. Amen.

There's way too much information out there for a casualty to be kept off the books. The only way that they can be "hidden" is playing games with the numbers, delaying the release of information, and trying not to mention the number of wounded--now residing at just shy of 30,000, not including non-hostile injuries and illnesses.

[Islander Expat]

12. You sure trust the government's figures

you're such a trusting soul.

[alcibiades_mystery]

13. Is that your counter-argument?

Because it is lacking in anything resembling evidence. I do understand why you would resort to stupid ad hominem arguments when you lack evidence, but that doesn't make it any less pathetic.

[NoGodsNoMasters]

3. This reminds me of a quotation...

Forget who said it first, something like "How many soldiers is the president willing to sacrifice on the altar of his ego?"

[Islander Expat]

7. delete

[rockybelt]

5. How much

How much blood can the hands of George W. Bush and Richard Cheney hold?

[SleeplessinSoCal]

6. 3,870 according to globalsecurity

http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm

[democrank]

9. Send in the Chickenhawks and

bring our troops home.

[Progressive Friend]

14. These numbers do not include US "contractor" (i.e. mercenary) deaths

The US government said last spring that there were 225 deaths in that category. However, the companies involved are not required to release any information, so we only know that 225 was the very minimum last spring.

That means that the actual number of US deaths in Iraq is well over 4,000. This is never mentioned in the corporate media.

[Progressive Friend]

15. BTW, in October of 2007 there were still more US fatalities than in seven other months of the war

I point this out, because the pro-war propagandists are trying to claim that "we're winning", simply because there was a relatively "low" month in terms of US fatalities. However, there have occasionally been many other "low" months, so it means nothing.

Source: http://icasualties.org/oif