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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:19 AM
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Turks Bombard Northern Iraq
Source: CBS News/AP

(AP) Residents in northern Iraq called for U.S. intervention after officials said artillery and rocket fire struck hillsides near villages in Iraq's border area with Turkey over the weekend.

Iraqi army Col. Hussein Rashid of the border guard forces said Turkish troops fired more than 250 artillery shells and at least 10 missiles on three areas inside Iraqi territory late Saturday. But, he said, the shelling caused no casualties or damages as it hit only abandoned areas in the mountains.

AP Television News footage shot from the village of Inshki, 20 miles from the Turkish border, showed a hillside dotted with balls of fire, terrifying residents below.

"We condemn the Turkish bombardment of Kurdish areas," Salih Kaka Ameen told APTN in Irbil, a city in the Kurdish-controlled north 217 miles north of Baghdad. "We demand that American intervene to put an end to this crisis."

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/15/world/main3368500.shtml
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:20 AM
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1. So I suppose the Armenians are to blame for this?
:eyes:

:sarcasm:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:20 AM
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11. no, the turks were going to do this anything bomb the Kurds
now the Kurds want the US to tell Turkey to stop this???? yea, like the Turks will listen, what BS. Northern Iraq is another area rich in oil, probably struck a deal with the US to share the Oil revenues.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:08 AM
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18. I know, I was just expressing my bitter distate
for how nasty people were to the Armenians in the many threads re: HR106.

:hi:
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:20 AM
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2. Shit.
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:23 AM
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3. the one part of Iraq that liked us will descend into chaos--thanks, Bush & Cheney!
everything they touch turns to death.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:33 AM
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4. A shot over the bow by the Turks.
"...as it hit only abandoned areas in the mountains."

This thing's gonna get real because the Kurds are not going to stop their guerrilla raids into Turkey. This is crazy. Here the Kurds have a semi-autonomous area in northern Iraq and you would think they would just enjoy it for awhile.

And this guy Salih Kaka is demanding that the US jump in and militarily confront one of our NATO allies. What worries me is, President Cheney is just stupid enough to comply.
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:35 AM
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5. I will not be surprised if we learn...
that the chimp gang asked Turkey to do this to show a foreign policy flaw with the Democrats.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:09 AM
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19. yep, this is some kind of game
and the players are the same. Halliburton, KBR, Cheney, Bush, etc.
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Theres-a Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:36 AM
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6. "We demand that American intervene to put an end to this crisis."
I don't understand the logic behind this demand. Don't the Americans already have their hands full? How is this the problem of the American military? Please forgive my ignorance.It just seems crazy to me.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:44 PM
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24. we are put in the position of Military caretaker in Iraq--thanks to the Bush Doctrine
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:38 AM
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7. So, the Turks are perfectly justified in this
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 09:39 AM by doc03
they are simply following our example of preemptive war. How can the USA condemn any other country after our actions?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:26 AM
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13. yea, and the Turks will make sure they rub that fact right into our
faces too, we have no credibility none whatsoever.
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:41 AM
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8. Intervention like our military fires BACK at Turkey across their border?
Oh yeah, that'll put out that fire.
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:47 AM
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15. So you mean the pkk
should cross the border and kill while the Turks do nothing. Dont you think thats too naive.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:43 AM
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9. Wait for the false flag op. nt
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:58 PM
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25. HALLO! Call me Cassandra
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 04:58 PM by Karenina
but my warped mind thinks this is all about Nancy setting up a situation where Cheney can BLAME IRAN. Bomb, bomb, bomb. BOMB, BOMB IRAN. :tinfoilhat:
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 09:49 AM
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10. Anyone who thinks we can do anything to stop this shit is crazy.
WE STARTED IT. Even before Shock and Awe analysts predicted this very event.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:25 AM
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12. a scheme to separate the Kurds from the oil.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:30 AM
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14. very possible, a plot between the turks and *'s cronies
get rid of the Kurds and the oil revenues can be shared between Turkey and the US. I can see Cheney involved in this. Or maybe a deal was made like the US can use Turkey's airspace and Turkey gets Kurds oil, you never know with these *'s scumbuckets.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 10:56 AM
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16. The Kurds already signed oil agreements with Big Oil
Occidental Petroleum being their latest partner.

Despite the pro-Kurdish propaganda one gets in DU, Turkey is responding to months of cross-border attacks by Kurdish terrorists.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:00 AM
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17. One of the problems with the reestablishment of The Grand Chessboard of the 1890s
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 11:00 AM by tom_paine
by Bushler and Chimmler is that they expect, just like when the Nazis attack the Liberals and Jews, for their victims to remain in the old world of civilization while they embrace murderous barabrism.

The problem with that, on the international level and the difference from when Bushie-types are attacking others besides statelss victims like the Jews were in the 1930s, is thatThe Grand Chessboard is for everyone. EVERYONE.

The Bushies expected the rest of the world to behave like the Amerikan Democrats with supine cowardice and resigned acceptance.

But as with Hitler and HIS Bush-like plans, the rest of the ations of the world are not as easy to docilize by intimidation and tyranny as stateless sub-groups (German Jews of the 1930s and Amerikan Liberals of the early 21st Century).

I very much approve of Turkey's assault. Let's fucking get this show on the road and show the Imperial Subjects of Amerika what "brand" they bought from the lying Bushie PR People. Constructive Destruiction and Planned Chaise and the End of the American Experiment in self-governance.

Not that many will notice. Corporate TV Infoganda will present them with the appropriate Bushie half-truths and lies reported uncritically as facts, and the conclusion to scapegoat the Jews, err, I mean Liberals (it's Liberals, this time around) will be manifest.

But Bravo, Turkey! Bravo! Push those pieces across the Grand Chessboard!
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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 11:17 AM
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20. This has been going on for a couple of weeks now
I watched a report on BBC about it last week, tensions are ratcheting up in the area. it's nothing that wasn't predicted before this cocaine cowboy started his quest of world domination. There's not a damn thing we can do about it, it's like watching a car wreck.
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EugeneF Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 12:38 PM
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21. Ottomanipulation
The United States warned Turkey that any attack on Northern Iraq would be considered an annexation of all of Iraq. "Yep," President Bush telephoned the Turkish Premier, "You can have Iraq back. I didn’t sign this Treaty of Versace, so as far as we’re concerned you guys still own Iraq, Syria, Arabia and–well maybe you could sublet Israel. From what Cheney tells me, the Middle East was a lot better when you were running it. And between us, Ottoman Empire isn’t as silly a name as Turkey."

Anticipating objections to the restoration of the Ottoman Empire, the White House promised to arrest Peter O’Toole and Omar Sharif; the rest of the cast had the foresight to be already dead.


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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 01:50 PM
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22. I like that EugeneF
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 01:50 PM by Orrin_73
I assume you said that as a joke.

byteway Im Turkish.
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EugeneF Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 04:08 PM
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23. Turkish Delight
Yes, I was joking but--at the risk of sounding like a NeoCon--the Ottoman Empire is looking better all the time.

And Bayezid II was very gracious to some cousins of mine.

EugeneF
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-16-07 05:37 PM
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26. where is America right in the middle
Edited on Tue Oct-16-07 05:38 PM by lovuian
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