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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 10:11 PM
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Mooning Activist Linked to Older Crime
Source: Associated Press

TORRANCE, Calif. (AP) — Mooning a police officer was community activist Steven Lee Myrick's undoing. Myrick, 41, was convicted by a jury Tuesday of raping a Hawthorne woman during a burglary seven years ago.

The crime was unsolved until he exposed his bare buttocks years later and a DNA sample collected by officers linked him to the rape.

Jurors deliberated less than a day before finding Myrick guilty of residential burglary and two counts of rape.

He faces multiple life terms when sentenced Nov. 5 because jurors found true special allegations that a gun was used, the burglary was gang-related and the rape occurred during a burglary while the victim was tied up, Los Angeles Deputy District Attorney Jodi Link said.



Read more: http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hoOBM8YJZJFYy-TvYCQWu-zAYz7wD8S24CA80
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 10:14 PM
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1. Brings new meaning to the phrase "showing your ass"
:rofl:
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 10:19 PM
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2. So now people convicted of misdemeanors need to give their DNA to the LAPD?
I hope this guy is really guilty, and that the cops didn't just get someone in the lab to claim a match with the rapist as a favor.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-03-07 10:53 PM
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3. This is VERY disturbing
DNA evidence CANNOT show guilt without doubt. It CAN exonerate.

One more step down the road of convicting America.
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 12:29 AM
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4. Since when is the level of proof "without doubt"? It is reasonable doubt.
Funny how you accept it to exonerate but not prosecute.
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salib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 10:14 AM
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7. The trouble is that DNA evidence is not conclusive
It can eliminate with a high degree of certainty, but cannot identify with anywhere near the same certainty. The process used does not sequence the entire genome, but instead looks at key areas. Hence, while elimination is very easy to do (one key area does not match), if all match, what do you know?

Well you know that the "odds" are about 1 in 6.25 million that you misidentify. However, those odds are relative to the number of people in the world, not at a potential crime scene. Hence, the odds are misleading, and insufficient.

The real problem, though, is not in using the technique. It is the air of infallibility associated with a "scientific" process that easily sways opinion, both inside the jury room and outside in public and official opinion. People want to believe in a conviction, and DNA is "scientifically", or at least technically, mysterious and seemingly foolproof.

Randomly taking DNA and then "matching" it to then accuse someone of a crime quickly turns those 1 in 6.25 million to the real odds of of near 1 in 1 that you will accuse a large number of people inaccurately.

As always, the way to approach understanding odds is not in restating them as likelihoods in general, but in specific terms. E.g., the silly argument that evolution could not have happened because "what are the odds" that humans just like us could have evolved. After all, we are quite unique, complicated organisms, not to mention the rest of life on Earth. But that is the wrong question. Eveolution is not posulating that natural selection leads to THIS EXACT RESULT on Earth, but that it will inevitably lead to a state that is in agreement and explains where we are now.

So, back to DNA evidence, the question is not, in this case, whether a handful of people "match" the DNA signature measured in evidence, it is instead of the 6-7 billion people on Earth, or in this case maybe only the 10-20 million people who have had their DNA "recorded" in the U.S. to "match" against, whether ANY of them "match." Suddenly the 1 in 6.25 million odds looks like the odds on favorite. OF course some of those people will "match." In fact, as we collect more and more samples as electronically archive the "fingerprint" and then "match" them up, there will hundreds and then thousands of matches, and thus more opportunity to harass the people you have arrested.

Just perfect.
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olddad56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 11:57 AM
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8. another problem with DNA..
As we move further into a state of fascism, how do we know that, in some cases, the DNA evidence won't be tampered with to 'prove' conclusively that an innocent enemy of the state is 'guilty'.

I guess if I can imagine it, someday it can happen.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 07:03 AM
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5. Perhaps there was other evidence (eyewitness, victim) which was also presented
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 08:48 AM
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6. Always hard to say unless you were on the jury.
:shrug:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-04-07 01:11 PM
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9. "Community Activist" Seems to Be an Interesting Description for a Gang Leader
More info at this link:

http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/10199196.html?showAll=y&c=y

A DNA expert testified during the trial that there was a one-in-110quad-trillion chance that the biological evidence found on the female victim belonged to anyone other than Myrick.
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