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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 05:19 PM
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Bolivia denies Chávez' role in 2003 uprising
Source: El Universal (opposition newspaper)

Tuesday September 25 , 2007
Bolivia denies Chávez' role in 2003 uprising

- Claims that Chávez funded overturn of Sánchez de Lozada

The government of Bolivia Monday described as "cowardice" the claims that Venezuelan ruler Hugo Chávez financed in 2003 the revolt that overthrew then Bolivian President Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada.

The accusation was made in the United States by Carlos Sánchez Berzaín, the former Minister of Defense and former strongman under Sánchez de Lozada (1993-1997 and 2002-2003), in an interview published last Sunday in Cochabamba newspaper Los Tiempos.

"Evo Morales brought to Bolivia in August and September 2003 an amount of money that Hugo Chávez gave him in Venezuela to destabilize and overthrow the government of Gonzalo Sánchez de Lozada, and there are other elements and I am going to make available" about this issue, Sánchez Berzaín said.

The former official also accused Morales of receiving significant support from Cuba and the rebel Colombian Revolutionary Armed Forces (FARC) to unseat Sánchez de Lozada, currently in exile in Washington.

According to Morales' spokesman Alex Contreras, Sánchez Berzaín' statements are "a synonym of cowardice," as he and Sánchez de Lozada "should be here, facing the Bolivian justice" in connection with the 63 people who were killed during the crackdown of a number of social protests in 2003.




Read more: http://english.eluniversal.com/2007/09/25/en_pol_art_bolivia-denies-chave_25A1064677.shtml





Carlos Sánchez Berzaín
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-25-07 08:12 PM
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1. If true, we can only chuckle that the Left in South America is finally getting some
smarts, and is peacefully using the tactics of the CIA and rightwing juntas, to install...look!...

Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's...FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY!

Imagine funneling money from one democratic revolution to another! The dirty dogs! The Marquis de Lafayette would be giggling in his grave!

Imagine them holding...DEMONSTRATIONS...my God!...in opposition to fascist policy and corporate rule! It must be a communist conspiracy!

And how dare they VOTE the fascist fuckers out of office! "Overthrowing" rightwing rulers by voting against them ought to be banned! That is surely a terrible plot to oust the "born to rule" rightwing rich elite of Bolivia.

If it's true, kudos to the Bolivarians, for understanding the critical need for cross-border solidarity, regional cooperation and unity in the pursuit of social justice. But coming, as this is, from DC, where this fascist asshole is holed up, with lots of kindred spirits around him, there is likely nothing to it. Just more disinformation--a la the demonization of Venezuela and any country that has significant oil in the ground. Next: Evo Morales, perhaps the saintliest man ever to hold public office, in the history of the world--a 100% indigenous indian, who campaigned with a wreath of coca leaves around his neck, sacred plant of the Andes. His point was his opposition to the murderous U.S. "war on drugs," which, under Bush, favors the big drug lords over the little peasant farmers who have been growing a few coca leaves, for local use, for thousands of years, and who also grow organic food to feed their families and communities; their farms are being poisoned with toxic pesticides, and they are being brutally oppressed and driven into urban squalor, so the real criminals, and corps like Chiquita and Monsanto, can control the land.

The most important protest--the one that catapulted Morales into national prominence--was against Bechtel Corp., which had privatized the water in Cochabambo (under a rightwing regime), and then jacked up the prices to the poorest of the poor, even charging poor peasants for collecting rainwater! The people of Bolivia rose up and threw Bechtel out of their country. Their uprising--and their awesome grass roots organization--owes nothing to Hugo Chavez or Fidel Castro. Bechtel is the one responsible. Their behavior was so bad, people couldn't stand for it. But fascists like Sánchez Berzaín, Bush, Cheney, Negroponte and Gang don't believe in democracy. They only believe in money. Money must be behind it. Oil money from Chavez, or "support from Cuba." (Cuba is providing DOCTORS for the new medical clinics for the poor--in Venezuela and Bolivia. Beware of "communist" doctors!) They wouldn't recognize a legitimate grievance if they saw one. It's all conspiracy and plot, to their minds, because that's who they are, and what they do.

It's interesting that El Universal--a corporate news monopoly craprag like we have here--grants the word "strongman" in describing Sánchez Berzaín, and allows Morales' spokesman Alex Contreras to explain: Sánchez Berzaín was the enforcer, the killer, of the previous, corrupt, rightwing government--the one who likely ordered the deaths of 63 people during the protests.

But you also have to ask: why are they promulgating this swill--that the "problem" is Chavez or Castro? They are using Bush-purged CIA "talking points" and operatives (and Sánchez Berzaín is very likely on the Bushite/CIA payroll) to push certain campaigns of disinformation, so that if and when they are able to pull off an assassination and rightwing coup (against, say Chavez or Morales), the event will be attributed to yet more (yawn) "banana republic" politics, and will raise no questions here. Even now, the Bushites are pouring billions of dollars into rightwing paramilitaries through "war on drugs" funding, in Colombia (where union organizers, peasant farmers and political leftists are being tortured and killed), AND in the rich rural areas of Bolivia, where the plan among the rich landowners and Bushites is to split off the oil-rich and gas-rich rural provinces from the central government, in order to deny any benefit from these resources to the vast poor population of Bolivia, which is now concentrated in the urban areas.

Demonizing Morales--a very hard man to demonize--is part of this plan, clearly. So it starts. First a "former strongman" and fascist plants some rumors about communist and violent revolutionary connections. Next, Condi Rice will pick up the theme, with a little more diplomatic spin, perhaps. Then AP will slip some "quotes" from "his critics" into news articles, hinting at "shady connections" with "leftist guerrillas" (the only such force being in Colombia which doesn't even border Bolivia). Finally, the NYT will write a long tome on the South American Left, entitled, "Is Fidel Castro still influential in Latin America?: the grandfather of violent leftist revolution revered by the new crop of 'populist' presidents." And Morales will be shafted.

Chavez and Morales, of course, are genuinely elected presidents of their countries--with 60% and 63% of the votes, respectively, in highly monitored and transparent elections (unlike our own)--and furthermore have astronomical approval ratings. Their rather moderate socialist/capitalist economic models are hugely popular, and hugely beneficial. As one of the tenets of the Bolivarian revolution is regional cooperation, Venezuela is, of course, helping Bolivia--which only recently elected a leftist (majorityist) president, and is still struggling against rightwing plots and destabilization efforts--just as Venezuela helped Argentina get out from under onerous World Bank loans. Cooperation. Mutual aid. Solidarity. Is that bad? No, it is essential to have strong neighbors and allies, committed to social justice, when facing global corporate predators and constant U.S. interference toward fascist goals.

It is not a communist plot. It is DEMOCRACY, and THAT poses a more serious threat to corporate predators and the ungodly rich than any previous development in South American history. It HAS to be demonized and destroyed, from the global corporate predator perspective. These "plants" in the media are part of that process, which could end in great suffering and tragedy, as has happened so often in the past, in Latin America, although this democracy movement in South America is very strong, and likely will prevail, in my opinion. I'm not so sure about central America. Daniel Ortega's election in Nicaragua is a good sign, but Guatemala is very troubled by rightwing violence including political murder, and Mexico is totally U.S.-dominated--even though a leftist came within 0.05% of winning the last election. The U.S. and its corporate predators will not likely permit Mexico to fall into leftist--that is, majorityist, "social justice"-- hands.
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1932 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 07:23 AM
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2. great post.
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Clanfear Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:00 AM
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3. So, you are saying...
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 08:00 AM by Clanfear
That it is okay to use CIA tactics if it is done for the "good guys"?

"we can only chuckle that the Left in South America is finally getting some
smarts, and is peacefully using the tactics of the CIA and rightwing juntas,"

So even if the $800,000 from Chavez was used to unseat the "bad guys" or the claim was bogus, it's all good because we favor the new governments, correct? The ends justify the means.

"As one of the tenets of the Bolivarian revolution is regional cooperation, Venezuela is, of course, helping Bolivia"

Regional cooperation is vital because of the isolation from the market that the Bolivarian revolution dictates. Without regional cooperation a country would essentially die off from its resources flowing out of the country to profitable markets outside. With regional cooperation there is no other place to sell goods except in the country of origin. The question becomes with these price controls are the prices set too low as many of the poor farmers claim?
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 11:45 AM
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5. I'm saying if the Bush-purged CIA is funneling millions of our tax dollars to the
rightwing political opposition in Latin America, and billions to rightwing militaries and paramilitaries--which they ARE doing--it is only smart for the leftwing DEMOCRATS, who represent the MAJORITY of people--who have been brutally oppressed and exploited in the past--to funnel money around in good causes. OF COURSE I don't mean CIA tactics of assassination, phony "riots," stealing elections, drug and weapons trafficking, and torturing the opposition and throwing them out of airplanes. Those would be reprehensible, no matter who did them. And there is no evidence whatsoever that the South American left is involved in any such activities. They are a lawful and highly principled movement with a passionate devotion to constitutional government, and with widespread support. But where the CIA would instigate rightwing "riots" on cue, in the course of plots to destabilize countries and install rightwing dictatorships, the left--in genuine grass movements with legitimate grievances--holds PEACEFUL protests, with genuine popular support, to force illegitimate, minority, rightwing governments to listen to the grievances of the majority, and, if they will not, to democratically replace them with a better, more representative government. It is a leftwing tactic to "put your bodies on the gears and wheels of injustice," as Martin Luther King and Gandhi so brilliantly employed. It is RIGHTEOUS disruptive power, whereas, when the CIA and fascist plotters employ it, it is merely disruptive and almost always violent.

That is all that I meant--USE your power, legitimately, in the cause of social justice and democratic empowerment of the poor majority, which has been so excluded in the past. This rightwing asshole, who no doubt fancies himself the future dictator of Bolivia, is trying to smear legitimate cooperation of the social justice movements in Venezuela and Bolivia as ...I don't know...his mind (the CIA mind) is so murky...somehow subversive, or..un-Bolivian? But why shouldn't the social justice movement in Bolivia get help from wherever it can obtain it, whether from their neighbor Venezuela, or Cuba, or EU humanitarian groups, or U.S. environmental groups...when the USAID/NED and CIA are pouring millions of dollars into rightwing opposition groups to BREAK UP the country (split off the oil/gas-rich rural provinces), disrupt the constitutional assembly (which Morales supports and which was approved by EIGHTY PERCENT of the voters), and to destabilize and overthrow the legitimate government?

Outside help is bad...why? It is bad only if it is anti-democratic (against empowerment of the majority), anti-social justice, disruptive of legitimate government and subversive of Bolivia's SELF-DETERMINATION, which all global corporate predator and U.S. activity is. THEIR money--corporate money, and our taxpayer money funneled through Bushite-controlled agencies--stinks. THEIR activities stink. The minority rightwing groups they support stink--with ill intentions, violence and fascism. Chavista money, or Cuban doctors, or other support in furtherance of the success of Morales' government, and its social justice goals, does NOT stink. It helps FURTHER Bolivian self-determination. The threat to Bolivian self-determination is U.S. domination and corporate rule in cahoots with fascist elites.

What this guy is saying is that LEGITIMATE cooperation and support, and mutually supportive networks of social justice, and close alliances between leftist (majorityist) governments, are somehow tainted, and he simply ignores the true subversion that is taking place, when the CIA or Exxon-Mobile infuse money into rightwing groups, in support of fascist goals and juntas.

He's turning everything upside down. Who hates Bolivia's self-determination? Chavez? Castro? Or George Bush? Which activities are BAD for the majority of Bolivians? Money from Chavez? Doctors from Cuba? Or the plots of rightwing paramilitaries and fascist politicians funded by our tax dollars?

Venezuela and Cuba of course have motives of their own. But, from what I can see, their motives COINCIDE with the goals of the Morales government. Venezuela wants healthy trading partners (one of their motives for helping to bail Argentina out of World Bank debt--a very mutually successful activity). They also want allies in THEIR social justice goals, which cannot be fully attained without regional cooperation. Cuba no doubt wants friends. They have been threatened and sanctioned by the U.S. for decades--and their model of economic but not political democracy has been rejected by Latin Americans and most of the world. And with Castro not having long to live, and the U.S.--headed by the worst, most fascist leader ever to gain power here--Cuba is vulnerable. So they use what advantages they have--lots of doctors, due to FREE medical education in Cuba--to win friends and allies. It's not as if ANY South American country would choose the Cuban communist model. That just isn't going to happen. But why SHOULDN'T Latin American countries find common ground with Cuba, and even admire its persistence in economic equity (not to mention environmental protection, organic farming and other good polices). Is this subversive of Bolivia's self-determination? It is not. It is just COMMON SENSE.

The CIA uses OUR money to subvert democracy in Latin America. The Left in Latin America uses ITS money, resources and clout to counter that influence, and to SUPPORT democracy.

I am not advocating skulduggery, subversion or violence in the leftist cause, nor do I see any such thing happening in the South American leftist movement. I was merely commenting on the IRONY that legitimate networking and mutual support are being dissed by this fascist--from his safe perch in DC--while highly illegitimate networking among fascist forces, global corporate predators and the CIA, and very large U.S. financial support of fascist groups--truly subversive activity--receives no comment.

My DU handle, Peace Patriot, says everything about me. I am a pacifist. And "patriot" to me means that I support the self-determination of the people--in our country, and other countries. I am a democrat with a small d (as well as a lifelong big D). And I am also a firm believer in the POWER of the people. You can't get anything done without employing power--whether of the vote, or of financial support, or of the word, or of legitimate, peaceful protest, or of strong community and grass roots networking--and without electing strong leaders to represent the interests of the people. I am very glad to see strong and clever leadership arising in South America, in the interests of the people. It's about time! And it's about time here as well. But we are way, way behind the South Americans, even on the fundamentals of democracy, such as transparent elections.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:33 PM
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6. Why don't you illuminate your view of the great divide between Evo Morales and the poor farmers?
You'd be giving us all a badly needed education, no doubt! Just let'er rip.

We could use some sources for that information.
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Clanfear Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 08:21 AM
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4. Ex-President of Bolivia Faces Suit in U.S.

By Anthony Faiola
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, September 26, 2007; Page A09

NEW YORK, Sept. 25 -- A lawsuit to be unsealed Wednesday in a U.S. District Court in Maryland seeks civil damages against Gonzalo Sanchez de Lozada -- the former president of Bolivia now living in exile in Chevy Chase -- for allegedly presiding over a 2003 government crackdown that left 67 civilians dead and 400 injured.

Legal experts say the case, filed by a group of 10 victims' family members, marks the most notable civil suit against a foreign former head of state residing in the United States since legal action was brought against former Philippines president Ferdinand Marcos in the 1980s. The suit seeks damages against Sanchez de Lozada for allegedly authorizing his military to use deadly force during a series of protests that resulted in an alleged civilian "massacre." A similar suit is also scheduled to be unsealed Wednesday in Florida against Jose Carlos Sanchez Berzain, a former Sanchez de Lozada government minister who now lives in Miami.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/25/AR2007092502252.html?hpid=sec-nation
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-26-07 03:36 PM
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7. Bolivian President Appears on Daily Show
Edited on Wed Sep-26-07 03:38 PM by Judi Lynn
Bolivian President Appears on Daily Show
By ALEXANDRA OLSON – 8 hours ago

NEW YORK (AP) — It took him a while to loosen up, but Bolivian President Evo Morales got the last laugh on "The Daily Show with Jon Stewart."

Morales strode up to the stage Tuesday to whooping and applause — and one shout of "Evoooo!" — from the audience at Comedy Central's Emmy award-winning fake news program.

Looking a bit stiff and speaking through a translator, Morales did not seem at first to understand some of Stewart's jokes, delivering serious responses. But he gradually relaxed under gentle questioning from Stewart and a crowd that delighted in the leftist leader's indictments of Western capitalism and appeals for social justice.

Morales, a fierce nationalist, has at times had tense relations with Washington. His appearance on the late-night show, known for its liberal leanings, was a highlight of his visit to New York for the U.N. General Assembly meeting.

"Your story is remarkable. How does a farmer, a poor farmer with a high school education become the first indigenous president of Bolivia? It's an amazing journey," Stewart asked.

More:
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h2G3oepr_IzgKRWwNKDZ2_01-wmw

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