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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:43 PM Original message |
Venezuela's Chavez May Take Over [Private] Schools |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. Damn, who knew private schools could be regulated? nt |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Not in this country... |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Which country? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. Not home schools either. |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Well, I was involved in that sort of thing in California. |
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nealmhughes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. I know the Alabama law as I did a seminar paper on homeschooling 3 years ago: |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
4. Can you say, "dictator"? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. Despot without a doubt. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 04:42 AM Response to Reply #11 |
27. "The man has become despicable." And what of the vast majority of the Venezuelan |
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EstoniaKat (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. Amazing logic you have there |
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Laughing Mirror (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #28 |
41. useful idiots of the west in love with George Bush |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
84. yes, it's true - everyone who questions Chavez loves Bush |
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humbled_opinion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #84 |
138. Exactly.. .I smells a little Sulfa here... |
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EstoniaKat (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
105. LOL |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
51. entertainment capital of my rather dull afternoon... |
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EstoniaKat (29 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #51 |
136. What I find sad is that instead of defending guys like this ... |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-29-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #136 |
137. What is sad is that you use a Chicago sun-times editorial |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #28 |
76. Oh, right, I'm just a Stalinist tool for "this asshat." What do you do, read old CIA manuals |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #76 |
96. Great post - inspiring! |
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darfman (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
115. Hmm. I like your response but it's a little off.. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 06:51 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. As DU'ers are very well aware, the RCTV license was given for 20 years, |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #76 |
123. Deleted message |
Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
32. There's so much we have heard and read over the years about what has been happening |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:54 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I have the material, found in a different source, but well worth examining: |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
77. All of this information sits atop |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Nicely put. |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Great post. It's too bad that even here, people are suckers for such |
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DuaneBidoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
45. Sorry but when you start talking about educating "The New Citizen" there's a problem. |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. A simple question that |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:13 PM Response to Reply #56 |
69. that it'd be exactly like all the private schools my brother and i went to in USA? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
86. I have no problem with a |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 04:43 AM Response to Reply #86 |
97. who controls media programming? deports any critical visitors? hmm, no.... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
70. Deleted message |
Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 05:26 AM Response to Reply #27 |
71. A great article on AP in Venezuela: |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #27 |
82. Leave Chavez Alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. And we can tell because the Venezuelan people are out in the streets |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:25 AM Response to Reply #4 |
29. For proposing to run their schools the way US states now run theirs? n/t |
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SayWhatYo (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
47. Hmm... Don't we do the same thing here? |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. Dictator? Despot? What is your definition of these things? |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:17 AM Response to Reply #4 |
122. Define "dicator" please - we're all waiting breathless for your illumination... |
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Hulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. There you have it.....a damn good reason to invade Venezuela...bring democracy to the schools!! |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Well, it depends on what he does with it. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. That's the thing. These hit pieces keep sounding as if |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
118. He IS issuing dicta from a palace. He's ruling by decree. What else do you want from him? To put |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. ALL Venezuelan Presidents live in Miraflores. It takes someone truly backward |
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Dave From Canada (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. LOL, we'll see how long he has these "temporary powers", probably as long as he's in office, which |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #5 |
30. Our public school boards have to meet state requirements |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
7. While I agree that the private sector cannot do whatever it wants |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:16 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. that and his brother is the education minister |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
37. Pol Pot murdered anyone with an education and anyone who wore glasses. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
52. Almost like.... "new frontier"? |
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rpannier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Tomato - Tomahto...Time will tell what that statement holds. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. May I suggest that any from the USA |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:36 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I can not begin to understand... |
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Pavulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
12. Well..the water continues to warm for the froggies..(nt) |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Are you comparing the people of Venezuela to frogs? |
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Socal31 (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
15. The people defending him |
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muryan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. i stopped posting here for quite some time |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Do yourself a favor and learn how to read these hit pieces. |
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Socal31 (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Since when did American Progressiveism |
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Imperialism Inc. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #25 |
43. The reason you got called that is probably because you are so |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 11:18 AM Response to Reply #25 |
44. Please make the case that Chavez is a dictator |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
61. Our schools aren't regulated like that. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Enjoy your stay! |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Enjoy my stay? |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #65 |
135. Welcome to DU! |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. You appear disoriented concerning Venezuela's oil refining capability. |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. With all due respect. |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 09:22 AM Response to Reply #61 |
98. got a link for that? |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 04:22 PM Response to Reply #61 |
126. You revealed your naivete in your opening statement. n/t |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Care to discuss it? n/t |
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NotGivingUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. Give me a reason/..i'm waiting. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:29 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. But the failed coup was real "democracy" I suppose? |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. "I was...against him from the start." Hm-m. Some open mind you've got there, |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
68. Evidence |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. What straws should I be grasping at? |
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Maribelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:03 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. The plight of Venezuelans before Chavez was elected ... |
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plasticsundance (786 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Reply #15 |
40. JudiLynn and PeacePatriot |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 05:38 AM Response to Reply #15 |
72. One thing I've noticed about the people defending him - |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #72 |
99. Oh, I'm sure that's just a coincidence... |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
20. Why, of COURSE, he will/SHOULD - Anybody on DU will AGREE!!11 n/t |
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DumpDavisHogg (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-17-07 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
24. Good for Chavez |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
26. First of all, beware of the source. The Associated Press is a corporate disinformation |
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1932 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
38. Excellent analysis. |
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MAGICBULLET (606 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Why don't you consider sending this post to the AP bureau in Caracas? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
49. You're aware of the two NY Times reporters working in Venezuela who had to resign, of course. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. More on discredited AP reporter, Peter McFarren: |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
53. Which 5 years are we talking about? |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
59. They never learn |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 08:30 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. There are many quotes |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. Your arguments, |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Response |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 01:33 AM Response to Reply #79 |
95. Any article that 'summarizes' the words of another person, |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #95 |
106. Not true. |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 09:20 AM Response to Reply #106 |
108. I'm not interested in any of this. |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. You really ought to be, |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. On the fence on the matter? |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Re: |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #111 |
112. I don't know what "shutter" means, |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 01:36 AM Response to Reply #112 |
113. It appears that Democrats are the only ones humble enough to have the hunch there may be something |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 02:05 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Thank you so much for the compliment! |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #112 |
117. Hint |
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ronnie624 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Sep-22-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #117 |
120. I don't need to do all of that. |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
131. thanks for this PP! |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
42. I don't see the problem here... |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 10:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
67. Scary, huh? |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
46. education policy in Venezuela |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
100. The Chavez haters will seize on ANYTHING to vent their bile... |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
54. First eliminate opposition media. Then control the schools. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
55. Does ANYONE here have... |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Is there an accepted list of fact finders? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 05:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
73. The more you examine what we're getting as "information" on Latin America, the more |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #73 |
87. Question |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:40 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. Absolutely he was in charge of points of dissemination all over the world. |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
90. We'll have to continue this tomorrow |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 09:58 AM Response to Reply #87 |
102. More information for you on Cuban |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #102 |
124. I an familiar with Otto Reich |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:00 PM Response to Reply #124 |
130. The bulk of Reich's filtiest work was already accomplished by the time Hugo Chavez was elected |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #130 |
133. What are you trying to accomplish here? |
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Flanker (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-21-07 05:38 AM Response to Reply #55 |
107. I will buy the text and post links I guess |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-18-07 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
64. Original sources |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. The "eerie" ""the new man"" is prominent in Christian writings. |
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nick303 (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. It was unfamiliar to me. |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
81. As I always say in Chavez threads... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. They HAD "Super-Villainy" with the Bush friend and ally, Carlos Andres Perez, |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. Do you think maybe that |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-19-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
88. Washington Promotes 'Independent' Media in Venezuela |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 01:06 AM Response to Original message |
91. Here is an article that describes the Bolivarian curriculum in a little more detail. |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 01:29 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. The propagandists obviously are counting on reactionary "readers" not taking the time |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
101. Sad that so many are so reliably happy to remain ignorant. n/t |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #101 |
103. Also astounding that they are so determined THEIRS is the only view that's going to be allowed! |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 10:12 AM Response to Reply #103 |
104. It's really stunning... |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 04:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
127. Yeah, |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #91 |
121. Can you picture the guys trying to write the No Venezuelan Child Left Behind test? |
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Clanfear (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #91 |
125. That article should calm fears. |
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Peace Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
92. And here is how the rightwing Bushbots in Venezuela respect free speech... |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-20-07 01:31 AM Response to Original message |
94. Yeah, that Hugo Chavez. He's so scary that I now sleep with one eye open! |
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BornagainDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-23-07 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
132. Well, its about time! Chavez has been to easy on seditionists. And just what |
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