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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:08 AM
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Miami Police Officer's Killer Shot Dead
Source: WISN-TV, channel 12

CUTLER BAY, Fla. -- Authorities said a gunman who opened fire with a high-powered weapon on four Miami-Dade County police officers during a traffic stop Thursday is dead.

The shooter had killed one officer and injured three others before getting away.

Officers from departments across South Florida had conducted a massive search for Shawn Sherwin Labeet, investigators said.

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/14107746/detail.html



Another thug goes down in a "blaze of glory." What a waste.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:14 AM
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1. Waste of what?
Cops or ammo?
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Archae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:20 AM
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2. Waste of lives.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:21 AM
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3. meh
another scumbag in the ground is never a bad thing
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:33 AM
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4. Scumbag
One of those words open to definition, depending on who defines it!

We know he shot four police officers, killing one and wounding three others, so we know he's a murderer, but do we really know if he's a scumbag?

Here's two definitions of the word:

1. a condom.
2. a mean, despicable person

Now we know that he wasn't a condom, and we don't know if he was a mean, despicable person. Perhaps in the coming days we'll find out.


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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:50 AM
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5. There is no possible way a cop killer could be a mean, despicable person
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INDIA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:52 AM
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6. Not on DU. n/t
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uncle ray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:38 AM
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9. we don't know jack shit.
remember they were on a manhunt looking for the wrong man at first.
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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:59 PM
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14. My baby was a good boy.
He didn't mean to hurt nobody... why did those police officers have to shoot him for?
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:19 PM
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40. He was on his way to the orphanage
to read to the blind children!
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:10 PM
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15. I would say attempting to kill 4 people is
pretty mean and despicable.
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tesla78 Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:01 AM
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7. Some Miami-Dade cops are assholes
I have personally seen a Miami-Dade cop pick up a young kid by the neck. The kid may have been a smart-ass but that doesn't justify choking him. The gunman probably knew he was a dead man for killing a cop.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 01:14 PM
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16. Just as every cop is a criminal
and all the sinners,saints.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:21 PM
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18. You hit that nail on the head- He was a walking dead man.
If he wasn't killed when they found him he would have gotten the needle. Dead either way.

I wonder what would have happened if he had complied with the officers he shot? At most ten years in jail for having a loaded firearm in the car and probably a felon in possession of a firearm? He would have had his whole life ahead of him after he did his time. But what does he do? He decides to be the thug he was.
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makhno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:09 AM
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8. The scum that should've stayed in the condom
The guy left two kids to grow up without a father and ruined the life of another person (just this time, who knows what his priors were):

"Alvarez identified the dead officer as Jose Somohano, a married father of two. Another officer, Jody Wright, underwent several hours of surgery to repair her severely injured leg."
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 11:44 AM
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10. No taxpayer money will have to spent on a trial and incarcenation
Now dump his body in the Gulf.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:33 PM
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:46 PM
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12. Thank God he wasn't caught alive
Or we'd have 25 posts from the DU Revenge Crew celebrating his impending gang rape. As it stands, we'll only get about 15 posts suggesting that his ashes be spread to the four winds, his name written on a piece of paper, which is then dissolved in acid, which is then shot into outer space, as a lesson to others (it being a well-known fact that the DU Revenge Crew salivates far more over revenge rape than over death rituals).
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:29 PM
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19. Punishment & revenge, aren't they the same thing?
You steal from me my revenge is sending you to jail. You rape me I send you to prison. You kill me I send you to the death chamber.

BTW- I see prison gang rape a bigger deterrent to crime than the death penalty.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 09:50 PM
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22. Yay, rape
:eyes:
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:13 AM
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26. You seem to have misunderstood my statement.
I am not cheering for the the fact that rape happens in prison. I am saying that it happens and it is a good reason/deterrent to try and stay out of trouble.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 11:18 AM
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37. I really really hope you have no children!
There is a huge difference between punishment and revenge.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:52 PM
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39. I was refering to judicial punishment.
But to ease your mind, no I do not have children. I recognized early in life that I would be a less than adequate parent. I really don't like the little buggers either........
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:59 PM
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41. thank god you were born with at least a smidgen of self-insight.
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Wcross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:14 PM
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42. Oh, I have a bit more than a "smidgen" of the stuff.
I am living my life on my own terms. Exactly the way I want rather than what is expected of me.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 12:53 PM
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13. Suspect related to notorious killer
The man suspected of shooting four Miami-Dade police officers was the half-brother of a fugitive -- a man on the run for the massacre of eight people in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

<snip>

"The man police say killed a Miami-Dade police officer and wounded three others Thursday was the half-brother of a notorious killer."

<snip>

"LaBeet wasn't even born when his half-brother, Ishmael Ali LaBeet, and four other men killed eight people at a golf resort in the Virgin Islands, a crime known in the islands to this day as "The Fountain Valley Massacre."

<snip>

"In September 1972, nearly 10 years before Shawn was born, Ishmael and four other men sprang out of the bushes at the Rockefeller-owned Fountain Valley golf course in St. Croix and sprayed the dining area with bullets. According to newspaper accounts, the attackers rounded up as many as 15 people into a nearby patio. Four Miamians were among them. Eight were ordered to kneel in a circle and were shot to death in turn. The four from Miami, two couples vacationing together, were among the dead.

The five black robbers, who witnesses said screamed anti-white insults during the massacre, then fled with $731 from the cash register and the personal effects of the dead.

Thirteen years later, on New Year's Eve 1985, Ishmael LaBeet overpowered guards from the Virgin Islands Department of Corrections who were escorting him on a flight from St. Croix to New York."

<snip>

"He forced the American Airlines flight with 198 people aboard to divert to Havana, where he was taken off the plane by Cuban authorities.

Ishmael LaBeet remains a fugitive; his crime resonates with locals to this day."

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miami_dade/story/237061.html
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obama_girl Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 04:31 PM
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17. Dead men tell no tales
and give no testimony
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 07:33 PM
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20. Do you think thiere is more to this story?
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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 08:10 PM
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21. six and a half years ago I would have said
nope, it is what it is..

With what our 'government' has become, who knows? We won't.

He was still a human being (who was a killer), but he still deserved to die better than being shot like a rabid animal - and yes, I know he shot 4 cops, one of whom died and another to lose a leg, but since when does an eye for an eye make our society what it was envisioned to be?
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ncabot22 Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:13 PM
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23. My understanding was that he died in a shoot-out
with the police. He wasn't giving up or surrendering. He wasn't shot like a dog. He died shooting at police. They took him out.

I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that is what I heard on the news.
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scrinmaster Donating Member (563 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:31 PM
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24. Towards the end of the article:
Miami-Dade Mayor Carlos Alvarez said Labeet was found shortly before midnight in a Pembroke Pines apartment complex.

Alvarez said there was an exchange of gunfire, and Labeet was shot and killed.


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2rth2pwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-14-07 10:48 PM
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25. "he deserved to die better than being shot like a rabid animal"
Tell that to the family, friends and supporters of Jose Somohano. Make sure that when his kids get old enough you tell them too.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 06:27 AM
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27. Lovely, American justice at work again
Judge, jury and executioners all wrapped up in a badge. It isn't like I didn't expect this, but it's still sad when it happens none the less. Let's hope they got the right guy, for we will never really, truly know.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 07:59 AM
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28. Right, how can we possibly know anything?
:eyes:
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:25 AM
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29. Well, with the suspect shot, thus eliminating the need for a trial, we won't know anything
That's the whole point. Time after time, when a cop is shot, the odds of the perp being shot go up exponentially. Are some of these shootings justifiable, certainly. However some of these shootings are simply revenge killings on the cop's part. Thus, we the people are deprived of justice, something that we're sadly lacking in this country to begin with.

I don't know whether or not this shooting was justified or not, whether the suspect was an imminent danger or not, who opened fire first, whether other methods of apprehension were tried or not. All we have is the word of the police, which has become increasingly suspect over the years.

I'm not taking the side of the suspect on this one, I'm taking the side of justice. In our American jurisprudence system, everybody has the right to a trial, but this right was quite possibly violated by the Miami police. Of course nothing is going to be done about it, the police will put the incident to bed, the public will, for the most part breathe a sigh of relief and even smile at the thought of taxpayer's dollars being saved. But justice will lose out again, and it will become all that much more easy for other suspects to be shot and killed as the police take the law increasingly into their own hands. We've already seen what this erosion has done, names like Diallo and King haunt our justice system.

Was this a justified killing or not? Was the suspect guilty or not? I don't know, you don't know, and that is the whole point, we will never know because we were all deprived of justice, the suspect most of all.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:36 AM
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30. Oh give me a break.
If the guy shot at four policemen earlier, killing one, do you seriously suggest police should have waited around and not shot at him if there was a shoot out?
Right.

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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 08:47 AM
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31. That's my whole point! We simply don't know
We don't know if this "shoot out" was provoked, if the suspect could have been taken down in a less lethal way, we don't know who fired first at this shoot out, we don't even know if the cops got the right man! All we have is the word of the Miami police, which as we've seen in the past can be of very dubious value.

Do you honestly think that the cops are truthful all the time? That they always get the right person? That they aren't biased? That they do not dispense their own brand of "justice" at times? All I know is that suspects who assault or kill a cop have a much greater likelihood of winding up dead at the hands of the police. Does this seem right to you?

The cops could be completely in the right on this one. Then again this could be a complete FUBAR on their part. Let's say they didn't get the right guy. Then there is indeed a cop killer still on the loose who won't be tracked down until he tries to kill again.


We just don't know, that is what is taken away from us when the cops act as judge, jury and executioner.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:05 AM
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32. Well, if we don't know nothing, then you certainly don't know
that the cops acted as a judge, jury and executioner. And considering the man killed one cop and shot at four, I think it would be understandable if police were a little cautious when approaching a suspect.
As for your logic, it appears to be circular. You seem to claim the police acted as a judge, jury and a executioner, and that's why we will never know, yet even you admit the police could have been completely right on this one.
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:12 AM
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33. No, we don't know because the police acted as judge, jury and executioner.
Big difference and certainly not circular logic.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 09:57 AM
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34. You don't know that the police acted as a judge, the jury, and
the executioner. Where is your evidence that they did? The article says the suspect was shot and killed in a shoot-out. If there was a shoot-out, what do you propose police should have done when apprehending a suspect accused of shooting four cops and killing one?
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:00 AM
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35. Umm, the guy's dead
:shrug:

And you second question contains the key word, and key point that I've been trying to get across all along, "if".
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ohio2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 04:11 PM
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38. Only thing he left behind was a criminal record....
.....can't possibly be any link found in his past
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-15-07 10:08 AM
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36. More details:
"Police also disclosed that LaBeet did not fire his 9 mm semiautomatic weapon as officers closed in on him, but was killed when he refused orders to drop the gun.

Dr. Joshua Perper, the Broward County medical examiner, said late Friday that LaBeet was shot 11 or 12 times by Miami-Dade police.

He said the autopsy, partially completed Friday, showed the two bullets that did the most damage entered through his right flank, went up into and through his liver, then into his lungs in his chest cavity.

LaBeet was also shot once in the middle of the back. The remainder of the bullets hit upper and lower extremities, Perper said. He said it is too early to determine whether LaBeet was on any drug."

http://www.miamiherald.com/457/story/238393.html
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