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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:17 PM
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One in Four Read No Books Last Year
Source: Associated Press

... One in four adults read no books at all in the past year, according to an Associated Press-Ipsos poll released Tuesday. Of those who did read, women and older people were most avid, and religious works and popular fiction were the top choices.

... Who are the 27 percent of people the AP-Ipsos poll found hadn't read a single book this year? Nearly a third of men and a quarter of women fit that category. They tend to be older, less educated, lower income, minorities, from rural areas and less religious.

... People from the West and Midwest are more likely to have read at least one book in the past year. Southerners who do read, however, tend to read more books, mostly religious books and romance novels, than people from other regions. Whites read more than blacks and Hispanics, and those who said they never attend religious services read nearly twice as many as those who attend frequently.

There was even some political variety evident, with Democrats and liberals typically reading slightly more books than Republicans and conservatives.

... Those likeliest to read religious books included older and married women, lower earners, minorities, lesser educated people, Southerners, rural residents, Republicans and conservatives.

Read more: http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/08/21/national/w105824D93.DTL&tsp=1
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:18 PM
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1. I probably read more books than most folks these days (real books, not kids' books)
while I was still in grade school.


So sad.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:20 PM
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3. um, define "kids books," since some of us on this board write them
and I think a lot of published YA rivals what gets published in the "grown up" division of publishing houses, in terms of imagination, topicality, etc...
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:25 PM
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4. Oh, I agree about YA books...
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Dr. Suess and Dick and Jane books. YA books are "real" books by my lights. And stuff that straddles the line... Harry Potter, Diane Duane's "Young Wizard" series, and even a lot of Mercedes Lackey's stuff.

Of course, I was reading Heinlein, Foster, Asimov, Clarke, Herbert, and such back then.
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villager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 10:15 PM
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14. Hey, I think some so-called "grown ups" need to revisit their Suess...!
"The Butter Battle Book" and the "The Lorax" come leaping to mind, as two examples...

;-)
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 10:17 PM
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15. The Lorax rocked! n/t
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:37 AM
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32. Sorry. The Lorax was executed by a CheneyBush Hit Squad
working BlackOps.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 08:10 AM
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34. Definitely true - especially when it was noted that many of the books were romance novels
My college student was appalled that they put the last Harry Potter book in the children's section. Her belief is that the last several books were much darker and required more maturity.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:10 PM
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53. The books have grown up with their readers.
The 12 year old reading the first Harry Potter would be 21, today.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 10:37 PM
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59. Quite true
My middle daughter was 11 then and insists that was the perfect age for really being a Harry Potter fan - just as my being 13 in 1964 was the best possible age to be a Beatlles fan.
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Wwagsthedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:19 PM
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2. Does "My Pet Goat" count? nt
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:26 PM
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5. Quick...get their names and addresses from...
... the NSA and send them all a copy of Al Gore's book, "Assault on Reason." :7
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:31 PM
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6. *spit take* AAAGGGH! *falls on floor*
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:33 PM
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7. Thanks to Audible, I read more books than ever these days.
Audiobooks count, right? I don't have time for paper books. Maybe, 2 or so a year if not available on Audio.

I keep a book or two on my iPod Shuffle pretty much all of the time. I listen at the gym, while running errands, and doing chores around the house.
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:33 AM
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23. LOVE audible
I'm currently listening to the 8th and final Dune novel.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:30 PM
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50. I don't have trees for paper books. nt
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 01:30 PM by heliarc
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:46 PM
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55. Those just wouldn't do for me. I hate being read to.
There's something about the actual act of reading that I find addictive.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:34 PM
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8. a good number of those who read probably count browsing "the bible" during church
.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 11:02 PM
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19. I wonder how many actually read it...
Edited on Tue Aug-21-07 11:02 PM by GoddessOfGuinness
...and how many opened the book and listened while the passages were read to them.
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:34 PM
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51. My mother gave me a bible when I was about 7...
And said "your father and I don't believe any of this, but there are some good stories in it, and lots of people believe that they are true" I thought that was pretty big of them.

I read a whole lot of the bible, and I think their preface predetermined that I wouldn't believe any of it either, but there's a lot of really juicy sex and violence in the bible. It can be a dry read in some places, but it's still fun to look at every once and a while. You certainly need it to understand references in most Western literature
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:42 PM
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9. I'd like to know the numbers with religious books and romance excluded
Only real books count.
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 06:52 AM
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30. Real Books
What is you definition of a real book. Dosnt Bronte, Stocker, Shelly count.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 07:33 AM
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31. Sure, but those would not be excluded
"Romance" refers to the schlock published in that category nowadays, written within fairly narrow guidelines. When people say they read romance novels, they're not including older novels with romantic themes.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:21 AM
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36. Wasn't Jane Austen a romance author?
And she was considered "schlock" in her time.

What you call schlock may be another reader's inspiration.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:50 AM
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42. Have you read the pulp that passes for romance and mystery fiction these days?
I love a good romance or detective novel, but most of what is being churned out these days bears no resemblance to the genre fiction of the 1960s, much less the 19th century. Publishing has become an industry like the "food" industry. The "religious book" industry is even worse. Again, I'm not talking about inspirational books. Even though those may not be everyone's cup of tea, they had value.

Most of the stuff being published by the mega-publishers these days is as close to real fiction - including good genre fiction - as cardboard is to cookies.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 10:32 AM
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44. Readers are readers. We should be happy they're READING
I read everything, from history to lit to popular fiction. I work in the publishing industry. And it's attitudes about "worthwhile books vs. trashy books" that have turned so many young people away from reading entirely. Stephen King wrote an essay some years ago about how many readers we've lost because we forced kids to read books they didn't want to read. If it weren't for King and Koontz and, yes, Harry Potter, many boys wouldn't be reading at all.

As for romance "pulp", if you check the NYT bestseller lists lately, many of those authors used to write romance novels and have moved on to mainstream thrillers. So it's not as if they're dodos. Nor are their readers.

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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 11:00 AM
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46. I don't think that we disagree, really.
Yes, it's good for people to read. On the other hand, it's a shame that so much that is being published today is lowest common denominator. Very few risks being taken among the major publishers. That's not your fault, of course.
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 08:58 AM
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35. romance novels are not real books?
If it weren't for the romance novel industry, a lot of women wouldn't be reading any books at all. It's snobbery like this that discourages people from picking up any books at all. We should be celebrating ALL book reading.

I know too many people who've been made to feel they should only read "worthwhile" books by their snooty book club pals. And they hate those endlessly downbeat stories, so they jsut stopped reading at all.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:29 AM
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39. Odd you should say that...
Maybe I'm just not looking, or looking in the wrong places, but those shelves that are filled with romance novels are almost always full, and I don't recall ever having seen anyone pick one up, much less purchase one.

All the women I work with read big doorstop fiction, nonfiction, or biographies/autobiographies. I haven't ever seen any of them reading "romance" novels, but like I said, maybe I'm just not looking hard enough...
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 10:54 AM
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45. If romances aren't selling, why are so many being published?
Publishers don't waste their money putting out books unless they sell. Last time I checked the stats, romance novels constituted about 50% of all fiction sold.

And maybe your women friends are reading them in secret and not telling you!

It's been my observation that people tend not to brag about their "guilty pleasure" books such as Stephen King or Nora Roberts, and instead brag about having waded through Stephen Hawking. But when they buy a King or a Roberts, they actually READ THEM. As opposed to all those copies of Hawking that sit on coffee tables, never read.
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prole_for_peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:43 PM
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10. unbelievable...i read two books this weekend alone..
"those who said they never attend religious services read nearly twice as many as those who attend frequently" that is a really interesting statistic. i guess i just have more time to read cause i don't have to spend so much time in church...

i love to read and can't imagine not have a book near me all the time. my mom read to me almost every afternoon when i was a kid and i think that is when i discovered how great books were.

when i was in college i would open my book of the moment and read before classes started. i would get asked what class the book was for. they LOOKS when i said that it wasn't required reading, i was reading for pleasure... it ws like these people had never heard of someone doing something crazy like that. it was wild...
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:52 PM
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11. I'll be honest - I don't read many books. I read volumes and volumes yearly...
but little of that is BOOKS.

Recently I read through the whole Harry Potter series but that was a rarity. (I like being able to start and finish a series.) I'm a pretty fast reader too - just a quirk of mine..

I'm just saying, there's a lot of reading to be had without it being books *per se* these days.
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Barrett808 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:58 AM
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43. Yup, I hardly ever read hardcopy any more.
Diving headlong into the high weirdness of the 21st century.
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 09:59 PM
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12. No need to read when Rush, Bill, and Sean tell me all the truth I need
Ignorance will be at the root when our great experiment finally goes toes up.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 10:09 PM
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13. I think it is higher that. n/t
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 10:49 PM
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16. The other one percent of Bush's base only got through the first chapter
of O'Reilly's drivel.

What percentage were reading Shakespeares?
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 10:59 PM
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17. We have a really good library, but . . . ..
ironically it's now closed for four months or so while they make renovations!!!
Evidently, they couldn't find a way to keep the library open while this was going on -- !!??

When I was a kid of 6, I went to the library because I understood that they had answers there.
The woman in charge gave me a library card and showed me the books -- all fiction.
I didn't understand there were categories.
I read my way thru Nancy Drew and that was pretty much it.
I didn't find non-fiction until a long time later.

In fact, even until the last few years, my library was playing up fiction --

Today, they are featuring non-fiction more and showing off the books more and they are getting a bigger play.

On the other hand, we do have infiltration of non-fiction by heavy buying of religious books for the library, for one thing. Whenever I see one of them, I turn them upside down.

Twenty years ago when I woke up I turned to my library immediately --
the answers were there.

For the last twenty years I've read hundreds of non-fiction books every year --

Right now I'm a bit slowed down by the library closing -- !!!

At that time, C-pan was also bringing C-span 2 on line and it was quite something then.
Quite different from today.
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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-21-07 11:00 PM
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18. Female and i read history and non fiction and political books.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 12:38 AM
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20. I am a NY transplant to the West,( years ago) female and I read too many books to count a year!
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 12:40 AM by saracat
Seriously! My garage is full of books I read everything.Political, historical biography, fiction , suspense, historical romance , comedy.All of it. I must be odd.I am terrified of being without something to read. My car alwqays has a book in it.:shrug:
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:33 AM
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24. You should consider reviewing...
It's a good way to get free books.

I can set you up. :)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:02 AM
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25. Cool!
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:08 AM
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26. Sure. PM me and I'll give you the link
They're always looking for new reviewers.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:06 AM
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21. BOOKS SUCK!
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Angleae Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:18 AM
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22. No books here
Unless you count the Internet or aircraft maintenance manuals (most of which are pulled up on a computer anyway). Printed books and newspapers seems to be slowly dying out in favor of electronic media.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:12 AM
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27. I think the headline should be "3 of 4 Americans read a book last year."
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 02:13 AM by robcon
not bad at all, IMO.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 02:59 AM
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28. Mark Twain said
The man who doesn’t read good books has no advantage over the man who can’t read them.
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 06:51 AM
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29. Do technical manuals count? n/t

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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:26 PM
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48. That's what I wonder.
Plus I read lots of individual chapters of textbooks when I have a particular mathematical problem or Design consideration that I require clarification on.... Do Plays count?
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 08:04 AM
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33. I'm reading two books right now
I'm reading "Monty Python and Philosophy" as bedtime reading, and I am also reading Pete Dunne's "Essential Field Guide Companion" as couch reading downstairs. Often, I'll have a novel for reading before bed and a non-fiction book I'll be reading downstairs during the evening.
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mcscajun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:29 AM
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38. That's me, too. I used to read three at once, what you're doing plus
one for the train commute. I don't do that anymore, so I'm down to two; one upstairs, one downstairs.

:)

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:24 AM
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37. Can someone give me a link to a brief summary of the article?
There's just too much there to read.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:37 AM
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40. I want the stats on Waffle House waitresses.
"What'cha readin' for?"
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FreeStateDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 09:45 AM
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41. "In 2004, a National Endowment for the Arts report titled "Reading at Risk" found only 57 percent,,,
Edited on Wed Aug-22-07 09:47 AM by FreeStateDemocrat
of American adults had read a book in 2002, a four percentage point drop in a decade. The study faulted television, movies and the Internet."

From the same article and closer to what I would have expected, about half.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:23 PM
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47. 27 percent is almost Bush**'s exact approval rating
Coincidence? I think not... :tinfoilhat:
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:27 PM
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49. I started having my high school students read out loud...
And that was in an class on Audio Engineering... I found student's reading skills so atrocious that I had them start reading out loud. Horrible.
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Darkseid69 Donating Member (285 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 01:34 PM
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52. Why read books?
When you can do all your reading online? It's the new paradigm, baby!

I think the last book I read was one of Howard Stern's books.. or maybe Blinded by the Right when it came out.

Laura Ingraham drunk on a barroom floor. hehe...
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 03:44 PM
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54. This makes me very, very sad. I need to read like I need air
If I don't have a book, I'll find something else.

I cannot imagine losing the ability to read - it would be the hardest thing.

And I cannot imagine not loving it. Too much wonderful writing is going unread out there, too many people aren't being exposed to the good stuff in school, and from the requirements I've seen made on my own school kids, far too little is expected.

My HS-er had to read ONE book this summer. One. That's crazy. I can still remember most of the list of near a dozen that I was required to complete before freshman year in HS. (Yes in the stone ages). All of them good stuff -- even when I didn't much enjoy them. (Ick. Lord of the Flies. {{{shudder}}}).
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 04:36 PM
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56. While out driving today I happened on Mike Gallagher's program
He was actually bragging about not reading books and inviting like-minded listeners to call in. They obliged. Some claimed they had more important things to do, like spending time with the family, instead of burying their nose in a book. Gallagher dissed his sister, who's a college professor "with all those letters after her name," for urging him to get an education (which he didn't). Then he went on to tell how his sister called to congratulate him when his book was on the NYT best seller list. I have to wonder why this guy would write a book, considering his aversion to them, and I also have to wonder who he thinks will read them, since he openly admires non-readers.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:18 PM
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57. Considering offshoring and other factors, I wouldn't be entirely surprised either...
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-22-07 05:32 PM
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58. i read like hell - local paper, NYT, magazines, online
but i don't think i made it through an entire book last year.

i'm reading sam harris now, so that should change.
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fightindonkey Donating Member (674 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:21 AM
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60. Bush, Cheney and Rove
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:39 AM
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61. ....
:yoiks:
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