Politics Seen in Nasty Call to Spitzer’s Father

[Cheney Killed Bambi]

Source: New York Times

Lawyers representing Gov. Eliot Spitzer’s 83-year-old father, Bernard Spitzer, say a prominent political consultant who has been working for State Senate Republicans threatened the elder Mr. Spitzer this month in an anonymous, invective-laced phone message.

The allegations against the consultant, Roger Stone, were laid out in a letter sent today to State Senator George H. Winner, Jr., the Republican chairman of the Senate committee on investigations and government operations. A copy of the letter was obtained by The New York Times.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/22/nyregion/22stone.html?hp

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And yes, they saved the voicemail. You can listen to it at the link. Warning: four letter swear words included.

[Kagemusha]

1. Geez, what's wrong with aides/consultants in that state?

Spitzer's lost a few due to similar enough stuff.. now the GOP is getting some equal opportunity sleaze. Clean out the stables, man.

[stillcool]

2. Is that the same Roger Stone?

who posed with his wife in some sex club? The name is so familiar but the significance alludes me.

[rooboy]

3. Roger Stone...

wasn't he the guy suspected of delivering the documents regarding Bush's national guard service that then got Dan Rather in trouble?

[UpInArms]

4. here's some background:

http://www.jeteye.com/jetpak/e1fefa6e-3b33-1029-86c1-00304880af2f/

What does Roger Stone have to do with Dan Rather? Well, wouldn't we all like to know. Stone, an original 'dirty trickster" who learned his trade under Watergate mastermind Chuck Colson, has been implicated in numerous sleezy political debacles ... but when the New York Post claimed he had manufactured the infamous Killian Memos, not a peep from major media...

Do you recognize this man?


Roger and Nydia Stone: Stone left Dole campaign after reports of his involvement in sex clubs. He resurfaced in Florida leading the protest over the recount.


Context URL: http://www.southcoasttoday.com
CBS' Mary Mapes, in 'Vanity Fair,' Defends Role in 'RatherGate'
Top CBS producer, fired for her role in broadcasting a story about Bush's TANG record based on fake documents writes about the events leading up to the fateful show and how ineffective CBS was in b acking Dan Rather.
Link: http://www.editorandpublisher.com
Wikipedia: The Killian Memos
A thorough non-biased detailing of the events surrounding Rathergate presenting a timeline of events and links to blogs, news articles, expert opinions and copies of the alleged forged documents.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathergate
Lets Get Back to the Rathergate Memos
Democrats suggest that the source of the Killian memors if
Link: http://www.democrats.com/node/4170
Roger Stone suggested as source of Killian Memos
The Daily Kos, a 'liberal' blog provides outlines the long connection between GOP strategist Roger Stone and 'dirty trick' all the way back to pre-Watergate and up to his collusions with Rove on smear campaigns. Follow the Rove genius...including this gem "According to someone who worked with him, in 1996 Karl Rove created flyers viciously attacking his own candidate, Harold See, running for Alabama State Supreme Court. The resulting backlash against the Democrat allowed See to win the race."
Link: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/3/4/122247/7113

[NYC Liberal]

5. LOL funny how whenever a Repuke is caught doing something wrong,

it's almost always related to sex somehow.

[stillcool]

6. Wow...a little looking...

how could I have forgotten all this shit?...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=printer_friendly&forum=203&topic_id=330466
Bartcop...http://www.bartcop.com/stone.htm

Fla. May Fine GOP Figure for 2000 Recount Actions

By Thomas B. Edsall
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 11, 2003; Page A06

As Florida's presidential recount raged in December 2000, a newly created political group spent $150,000 attacking three pro-Democratic state Supreme Court justices who threatened George W. Bush's hopes for victory.

The Florida Elections Commission now says the "Committee to Take Back Our Judiciary" was a front group for unidentified donors trying to ensure Bush's election. The panel is weighing a possible $450,000 fine against the committee's chairwoman, Republican Mary McCarty, a Palm Beach County commissioner.

But the committee's real organizer, the election commission said, was veteran GOP political consultant Roger Stone, who has been involved in major campaigns dating to Richard M. Nixon's administration. The election commission wanted to question Stone, who owns a home in Florida, but it couldn't locate him to serve a subpoena.

In a recent report on the matter, the commission says Stone persuaded McCarty to head the committee and that he supplied $150,000 from undisclosed sources. The group mailed letters to 350,000 Republican voters asking for money to send "a clear message to the Florida Supreme Court that we will not tolerate their efforts to highjack the presidential election for Al Gore."
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Stone declined to be interviewed for this report. His lawyer, Judd Burstein, said, "Roger's position is that questions about the substance here are not going to be dealt with. . . . The answer to all those questions, to use a legal phrase, is that it is none of anyone's damn business."© 2003 The Washington Post Company
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A40156-2003Jul10?language=printer

http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/
Roger Stone

Roger StoneAKA Roger J Stone, Jr.

Born: 1952

Gender: Male
Race or Ethnicity: White
Sexual orientation: Straight
Occupation: Government
Party Affiliation: Republican

Nationality: United States
Executive summary: Campaign consultant, GOP dirty trickster

Longtime political operative and no stranger to dirty tricks. Worked for Chuck Colson in 1972 at the Committee to Re-Elect the President (i.e. Nixon). Helped strategize for the Reagan presidential campaign and Arlen Specter's Senate campaign. Worked on Bob Dole and Donald Trump's unsuccessful presidential campaigns. Also appears to have been helping Al Sharpton's 2004 presidential campaign, for some reason.

In 1996, Roger and his wife Nydia purportedly placed an ad in Swing Fever magazine looking for single men and couples to join them in group sex. According to reporting in the National Enquirer and the Star, the copy proclaimed:

C-161,787-DC* INSATIABLE COUPLE

We are hot, athletic and very fit. We are seeking similar couples or exceptional muscular, well hung, single men. She's 40DD-24-36 and bi. She loves to fuck hard and deep. He's 195 lbs., trim, muscular and 8" +. She prefers jocks, miliary men, and body builders. No fat people or smokers need respond. Send photo and phone. No photo, no response! We are interested in DC, VA, MD, NYC, Miami, and LA.

VOICE MAIL 12209

Wife: Ann E.W. Stone (m. 1974, div. 1990)
Wife: Nydia Stone (Cuban)
Son: Scott

University: George Washington University

Committee to Re-Elect the President
Watergate Scandal

http://www.nndb.com/people/844/000047703/

[micraphone]

10. Same guy? Sure looks it...

"Big time political strategist Roger Stone and his wife Nikki: The former Bob Dole adviser and his wife were swingers and The Vault was a favorite haunt.
"Roger and Nikki were our customers for a long time," Marini says. "They were heavy duty swingers and ran ads on the Internet and in many sex publications. They were heavy players."
Roger was one of the top advisers who urged Dole and other Republican politicians to emphasize family values and integrity.
"Regardless of his status in politics, Roger never came to the club in disguise," Marini recalls. "He looked like a Ken doll. He was tall, blond, handsome and muscular and his wife was curvaceous and very sexy. She would wear leather bras and tantalizing outfits and he would wear collars, chaps and a leather vest with no shirt underneath."
Then in 1996, an ENQUIRER investigation revealed that Roger and his wife frequented group sex clubs and engaged in group sex orgies. In two blockbuster articles, we published evidence, including a shocking ad the couple had placed in a swingers' magazine soliciting lovers for group sex, a handwritten note arranging a sexual encounter, and revealing photos from sex magazines of Roger and Nikki barechested.
Hours after The ENQUIRER story hit the stands, it was picked up by dailies around the country — and Dole's campaign ended its association with Roger Stone."
http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/4616/enq0213.html

Despite possibly colloquial mangling of wifes' name - "Nikki" (Nydia), this jives with Bob Dole sacking mentioned by most bios, except Wikipedia (hacked????)

[stillcool]

12. another find...

http://www.observer.com/2007/new-anti-spitzer-site
Behind an Anti-Spitzer Site, an Ally of Roger Stone
by Azi Paybarah Published: August 6, 2007
Tags: Politics, Eliot Spitzer, Michael Caputo, Roger Stone

Here’s a link to a new-ish anti-Eliot Spitzer web site called SpitzerFile.com, which is supposed to be a one-stop shop for information (19 pages’ worth) about how the governor financed his 1994 and 1998 campaigns for attorney general.

After calling a number at the bottom of the page, I got to Michael Caputo, a former campaign aide to George H.W. Bush and public relations buddy of Republican operative Roger Stone.

“It’s fairly clear that there is much more afoot in the governor’s mansion,” Caputo told me. “He’s shown his true colors to the electorate since Election Day and especially in the last few weeks.”

In addition to the web site, Caputo has been emailing a compendium of Spitzer-in-trouble stories to reporters and activists under the neutral-sounding title “NYFacts.com.”
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As for the notion that he’s doing the dirty of Stone, who is currently working as a paid advisor to the state Senate Republicans, Caputo said, “I don’t work for free. Ever. I never have. If I’m doing Roger’s dirty work, a check is well overdue.”

[Mz Pip]

7. Wow

Stone must have the IQ of a potato to think he can get away with leaving this kind of message on the voice mail of the father of the governor of NY.

Not a thing his son can do about it? Oh, boy, he's got that wrong.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[OzarkDem]

8. Looks like he's busted

according to the NYT article

Bernard Spitzer’s lawyers hired Kroll Associates, the private investigative firm, to trace the message, and their report was included with the letter to Mr. Winner. The firm traced the number that appeared on Mr. Spitzer’s caller identification system, linking it to listings under the name of Mr. Stone’s wife, Nydia.

“The review of publicly available records,” the report says, “strongly suggests that the number is controlled by Roger Stone.”

[Mz Pip]

9. I emailed the link

to a prosecutor in NY for his take on it. I wonder if what Stone did is illegal. It certainly crosses ethical boundaries but if it is actually illegal, I hope they throw the book at the moran.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[yurbud]

11. link isn't working