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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:25 PM
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Democrats Divided Over CIA Leak Probe
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=542&ncid=703&e=1&u=/ap/20031231/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/cia_leak

2 hours, 23 minutes ago

Senate Democratic leader Tom Daschle of South Dakota called the announcement "as welcome as it is overdue."


"The public will not likely trust the results of an investigation headed by a political appointee, especially when the special counsel is constrained by Department of Justice (news - web sites) regulations that severely curtail the prosecutor's autonomy," said Sen. Joe Lieberman (news - web sites) of Connecticut. Way to seize the opportunity for a sound bite Joe

Former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean (news - web sites) said Justice Department (news - web sites) lawyers still will be answering to a political appointee despite the change.

"Whether it is a special counsel or the Justice Department inspector general, the American people deserve a person whose honesty, objectivity and fairness are guaranteed to investigate this serious matter," Dean said.

North Carolina Sen. John Edwards did not criticize the appointment, but said Ashcroft's decision "comes far too late. President Bush (news - web sites) knows how to get what he wants inside his White House, yet for months, his administration has somehow failed to find the person responsible for this dangerous and destructive leak."

Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry (news - web sites) called Fitzgerald's appointment "a half measure and nowhere good enough to restore public confidence in this tarnished agency."

He said Comey and Fitzgerald "are both Bush political appointees and carry the same baggage as John Ashcroft."

With an election year approaching, a vacationing Bush welcomed the decision from his ranch in Crawford, Texas. The president "wants to get to the bottom of this," White House spokesman Trent Duffy said.



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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:30 PM
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1. What part of this response was "divided"?
Oh! What they mean is the Democrats didn't all use the same words and sentences as if reading from the same Talking Points of the Day list.

I can see where the media would be confused if no one was telling them which messages are important for the next 24 hours.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:36 PM
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5. Daschle & Edwards, Dean & Kerry
The quotes provided from those two sets are almost identical.

Divided indeed. :eyes:
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:36 PM
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6. good call
another misleading AP headline. Let em know:

mailto:feedback@ap.org
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 02:03 PM
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16. Thanks !
Will do!!

It is nice to see unity.
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:43 PM
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10. My thoughts too.
American Pravda is pushing the Democratic "division" thing again. For once, it looks like all the candidates are on the same page for a change. What BS.
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:48 PM
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11. First sentence..."some Democrats applauded the decision"
Yes, I know it is lame. But that'll be their excuse for the misleading title.
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mrdmk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 12:51 AM
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20. The mainstream media is out to lunch
It is a lot more easy and cheaper to report the news from the scripted "Fox Memo" than to actually do some serious reporting.
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WhereIsMyFreedom Donating Member (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-01-04 02:52 AM
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21. You got that right
Damn, it's been a long lunch break.
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:30 PM
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2. If he wants "to get to the bottom," then he should start at the top
More useless tripe from the mouth that roared.
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Democrats unite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:41 PM
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9. Very well put!
eom
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:32 PM
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3. You mean a dude who ritually puts oil on his head
and shuns calico cats as messengers of Satan can't make an objective decision?

What is this country coming to?!!!

:silly:
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:35 PM
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4. I agree, but a little unfair...
"Way to seize the opportunity for a sound bite Joe"

The important thing is, the soundbite made it into the article, and it is indeed a good one. Joe ain't ALL bad.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:37 PM
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7. I just thought it was a bit wordy
I know I shouldn't pick on a defeated man.
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:38 PM
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8. You are correct
It's wordy. I was just saying it wasn't bad and it DID make the news. I wasn't getting on your case or anything. ;)
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:49 PM
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12. Where is the division?
The statements I've seen from all of the candidates that have made statements vary in their severity of condemnation, but not a ONE of them, even Joe, is defending this Administrations conduct in this probe. Where is the division? I see varying degrees of agreement...
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Q3JR4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 12:55 PM
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13. There are minor differences
is wording and such, but each implies the same thing. They sound pretty unified to me.

:bounce:
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:04 PM
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14. I SEE UNITY
Edited on Wed Dec-31-03 01:07 PM by Skittles
They all say that f***wit Ashcroft is doing far little, far too late - and they are RIGHT.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 01:22 PM
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15. looks like a coordinated message
McAuliffe probably sent out the memo: give qualified praise, but keep the pressure on.

But the whores play up the squabbling dems meme. :mad:

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missile_bender Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 04:57 PM
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17. Notice how many of the stories about Democrats are negative--
they're divided, they're criticizing each other, they're running like headless chickens. Where are the bloody issues? They are big enough to warrant complex and thorough press investigation. What if the Democrats are right? How will the public know?
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 10:41 PM
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19. They hate us for our anger.
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Woodstock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-03 08:36 PM
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18. Bush on vacation AGAIN?
What I worry about is they've had 3 months to cover their tracks.
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