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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:08 AM
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Laura Bush Has Words of Advice for Americans/Husband [faked roses poem!]
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/29/politics/29LAUR.html

Laura Bush Has Words of Advice for Americans and Her Husband

By CATE DOTY

Reuters

On "Meet the Press," Laura Bush urged Americans to be vigilant.


ASHINGTON, Dec. 28 — Laura Bush said on Sunday that Americans must stay vigilant not only in preparing for possible terrorist attacks but also in comforting their children as fears of terrorism increase.

<snip>

"We have to keep comforting our children, but we also have to be very vigilant as American citizens as we go about our work and our business," Mrs. Bush said.

<snip>
The first lady also said that the "Roses are red, violets are blue" poem she read at a National Book Festival gala in October was not actually written by her husband even though it has been attributed to him. She did not say who wrote the poem.

"But a lot of people really believed that he did," she said. "Some woman from across the table said, `You just don't know how great it is to have a husband who would write a poem for you.' "


The first lady is known for poking gentle fun at her husband in public and bending his ear in private. She said the president does listen to her.
"Well, the fact is I think it's hard for any wife, or husband for that matter, to give their spouse a lot of advice," she said. "You know, I don't really want a lot of advice from him and I know he doesn't really want a lot of advice from me. So I make an effort to only speak out when I really feel like I can't help but speak out."


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no, laura, actually you have hit the nail on the head but for one word. you said "You just don't know how great it is to have a husband who would write a poem for you," speaking to us, when it is YOU who doesn't know how great it is to have a husband who would write a poem for you, because THE LYING FAKE DIDN'T WRITE THE DAMNED POEM. wow, how revealing, laura... i bet karl is spinning in his office chair over this one. there is simply NO propaganda that comes from the right-house that ISN'T a lie these days. it's mind-boggling!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:13 AM
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1. This scum is beyond belief! Nothing but BS stories & phoney photos oops!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:17 AM
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3. photo "oops" is right... he's wrecked every photo "oop" he's been at.
he hosed up the turkey shoot, he got his undies in a bundle in the codpiece carrier shot, he was caught in a lie in the "mission impossible" shot on the same carrier... if the camera comes out, it's in the Dems favor in the long run.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 04:35 PM
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33. "She did not say who wrote the poem."
Bush probably uses a different color crayon.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:14 AM
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2. Blue-blood breeding stock
that is all she for. She's a damn prop. If her husband wasn't so worthless , well they thought he was at age 30, she wouldn't have been selected to breed with him. She ,like him, had lots of baggage to tow.

She needs to worry about her two girls and leave us alone.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:52 AM
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15. Trust fund trash.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:12 AM
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18. I like that one! n/t
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:19 AM
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4. Even that trivial little piece of doggerel
is out of the reach of our vocabulary-challenged president. No surprise here.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:57 AM
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26. It did seem a bit too good, but it fooled me.
It was kind of funny. Now it's phony.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:21 AM
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5. Did Condiliar write the "pomes"?
Roses are red, the truth I skewer
We're all good at shoveling, mad cow manure.
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:22 AM
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6. Ronnie layed the groundwork for this
"there is simply NO propaganda that comes from the right-house that ISN'T a lie these days. it's mind-boggling!"

In his day, Ronald Reagan fondly recalled his days serving on a PT boat in the war. The trouble was, he only PLAYED on a fake PT boat in a movie he'd made. But the press passed it off as "charming," America passed it off as just a cute story from a kindly old man, and that was that. They learned very quickly how stupid and gullible the American people can really be, and outright lies have become part of the republican strategy because they know no one will call them on it.

It is "charming" when republicans make up stories about non-existent war records, but it is a fatal character flaw when a dem lies about how he "invented the internet"...which is in itself a lie about who told a lie.

The mind boggles is right.

I just don't see how they don't understand any of this. I just don't get it.


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ze_dscherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:32 AM
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10. Oliver Sacks describing some patients reaction to Reagan
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 10:36 AM by ze_dscherman
In the mid-eighties, Sacks studied the reaction of people with aphasia as they watched a televised speech by the former-actor-turned-president. Despite being unable to grasp the skillful politician's words, the patients were convulsed in laughter.

"One cannot lie to an aphasiac," Dr. Sacks noted. "He cannot grasp your words, and so cannot be deceived by them; but what he grasps, he grasps with infallible precision, namely the expression that goes with the words, that total spontaneous, involuntary expressiveness which can never be simulated or faked, as words alone can, all too easily."

So, why did those patients with aphasia cackle at Reagan's speech?

"It was the grimaces, the histrionics, the false gestures and, above all, the false tones and cadences of the voice which rang false for these wordless but immensely sensitive patients," explained Sacks.


Found here, I could not quickly find the original text by Sacks: http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/MickeyZ_BushDamage.htm (Reading recommended!!!)
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 12:07 PM
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29. Wow! Human lie detectors!
this is very interesting.

I wonder how other politicians would fare with these patients.

I suspect many of them would fail, even some that we like. :)
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 03:20 PM
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31. Stories from the nursing home
An elderly long term patient in a nursing home was incredulous when she learned Ronald Reagan was president. The dear lady asked "you mean the actor, Ronald Reagan?" In assuring her that this was the same Ronald Reagan, she was silent for a time. When the truth really became clear she shook her head and then managed to come forth with a long suppressed belly laugh. She continued to shake her head and muttered "unbelievable, unbelievable".
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:23 AM
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7. she can't keep her own story straight... here she is saying he wrote it.
look at the irony in the title of THIS article. hahahahaha.

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http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/10/04/1064988456108.html?from=storyrhs

Roses are red, and Dubya ain't no poet

Washington
October 5, 2003

President George Bush has immortalised one of the key moments of his presidency in a love poem to his wife, the first lady revealed on Friday.

Laura Bush told a gathering at the US Library of Congress marking a weekend celebration of books in the nation's capital that her husband had written the poem while she was away in Russia this week and had presented it to her on her return on Thursday.

"Dear Laura," the poem began, "Roses are red, violets are blue, oh my lump in the bed, I miss you.

"The distance, my dear, has been such a barrier, next time you want an adventure, just land on a carrier."

The President, wearing a flight suit labelled "commander-in-chief", flew to the aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in a navy jet on May 1 to make his declaration that major combat in Iraq was over.
Since then, 89 US soldiers have been killed in combat in Iraq.

- Reuters
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zbird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:34 AM
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11. Well, I guess technically he "wrote the poem".
It probably took him the entire week she was gone to copy it in his own handwriting!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:53 AM
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25. that explains why the "woman across the table" believed it
Laura seems puzzled why people "really believed" he wrote the poem.

Here's a clue, Laura, most people wouldn't think the First Lady would LIE to them over such stupid shit.

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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:26 AM
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8. Why would Laura come forward with this little lie?
Because IMHO someone else was about too. Like the real author of the poem, maybe?

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PaDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:28 AM
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9. Is Pickles trying to
prepare people for another "hit"?!

"So I make an effort to only speak out when I really feel like I can't help but speak out."--Wonder what she says to him about what he's doing to all the people? Guess he told her NOT to worry that the twins won't be in Iraq!
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:35 AM
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12. Lie, a lie, and nothing but a lie
Is this the old joke "how can you tell if (insert member of BFEE here) is lying?"

I believe NOTHING of what any of them says. It's a sad way to look at government.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 12:01 PM
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27. it's very sad
when they say something, I consider it implausible that it would be true. If it turns out to be true, it's a fluke.

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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:39 AM
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13. "I don't really want a lot of advice from him " - neither does the country
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 10:41 AM by ConcernedCanuk
.
.
. It still amazes me and scares me at the same time that someone like Junior can GET into the WH, and then manage to STAY there !

And Thanx Laura for your insight as to what GeeDubya's "advice" is worth

But we already know

(sigh)
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:41 AM
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14. first he calls her a lump in the bed (yes, all southern girls love being
called a lump in the bed). then she throws in he didn't write it to cover his ass for calling her a lump in the bed, and then she turns around and talks about how great it is to have a husband write you a poem.

I'm confused, jesus help us.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:56 AM
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17. A bit of passive aggressive hostility?
Laura just placed below Hillary in a poll that the First Lady often wins.

Maybe the "lady" is just lashing out.

The problem with the "lump" comment is that truth hurts.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 10:52 AM
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16. I would venture to bet she wrote it herself
She has to feel pretty miserable with her lot in life and I bet she thinks of herself as that lump in the bed. I would imagine Bush* would fake some temper tantrum if someone else had written that tripe. No man I know would allow another to refer to his wife in that manner. She wrote it herself to try and bolster his image as a devout husband. Now we find out it is all BS. How do these people sleep at night?
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:43 AM
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22. Karen hughes would disagree...It blamed her for dropping the dog
and spoke of the "adventure" of "landing " on a carrier...every word was PR wise. Not Pickles.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:16 AM
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19. Everything about that "Meet the Press" show was bizarre
That MSNBC guy, what's his name, John, Joe, Jim Russert? Had there been a pile of snow on stage, he would have started making snow angels for Laura, he couldn't have been more spread-eagle as it was in his glorification of her husband and the bombing of Iraq.

But the point where I raised the bullshit flag was Laura's introducing a book for children of deployed military, about how they needed to keep the faith, be patient, and at the end of the book, how all ends well as the kids greet their military spouse returning from deployment. Neither she nor Russert said anything about those soldiers who weren't going to be returning, nor those who had returned with appendages missing.

The woman is living in a fog.
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bluedeminredstate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:33 AM
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20. Chemical, no doubt.
Fog describes her presence very well.
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:37 AM
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21. Live the buzzflash headline:
What a Pathetic, Lying Cad. Laura "The Lump" Bush Reveals That George Didn't Even Write the Trite, Silly Poem That the White House Claimed He Wrote for Her. This is a White House Addicted to Lying About Everything, Even Sophomoric Poetry.

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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:43 AM
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It figures.
She is an imbecile too.
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beanball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:43 AM
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23. Fake
a fake poem by a fake president.
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Clyde39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 11:44 AM
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24. Her husband has caused more fear for our children
His pre-emptive war has obviously increased the threat of terrorism here, so I find it disgusting for her to talk in her "school teacher" voice and give us advice about comforting our children.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 12:12 PM
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30. Yeah
but you have to admire the way she has instilled a higher social sensibility in her children than Hillary did with Chelsea.

Chelsea is one of those bluestocking future college professors, the twins are the center of every social event, if you define social events as those featuring distilled spirits, designer drugs, and vomiting adolescents.

I mean really, which would you rather spend time in a holding cell with?
The effect of breeding is evident here.

</sarcasm>
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 12:03 PM
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28. Now about his two NYT op-eds...
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 12:03 PM by gulliver
I keep hoping someone will ask Bush what the subjects of his two NYT op-eds were. He has the by-line on two of them.
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gulliver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 03:22 PM
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32. Um, who else calls her "my lump in the bed?"
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 03:23 PM by gulliver
;-)

Roses are red
Violets are blue
Oh my lump in the bed
How I've missed you

Roses are redder
Bluer am I
Seeing you kissed by that charming French guy

The dogs and the cat, they missed you too
Barney's still mad you dropped him, he ate your shoe
The distance, my dear, has been such a barrier
Next time you want an adventure, just land on a carrier

-George W Bush
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 04:46 PM
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34. What is really sad... is that other women would oh and ah
and say... how great to have a husband who would write a poem for you?

er... even if he wrote it... first it was a juvenile roses are red thing (which does NOT constitute poetry)... and second... a "lump in the bed"... right. So are all of the women she speaks to married to men with the vocabulary of seventh graders who think roses are red equals poetry? THAT is very sad.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 06:44 PM
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35. Department of weird lies
This administration has the habit of lying about strange, trivial and irrelevant stuff - this poem, the British Airways pilot, the fake turkey, Bush seeing the first WTC plane crash on TV, etc. I don't know if it is just to keep people off balance for bigger lies (Private Lynch rescue, etc.) or they just can't help themselves.

It does make you think that maybe all the smearing of Gore in the election was simple psychological projection - attributing bad characteristics that you recognize in yourself to others.

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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 07:49 PM
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36. I want to know who wrote the poem
Who is banging Laura? Such bad taste to lay in the same bed as her!
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TrueStory Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 07:51 PM
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37. The old CNN link is not working (CNN allied with Bush?)
Edited on Tue Dec-30-03 08:03 PM by TrueStory
this was the link

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/10/03/bush.poem.ap/index.html

and this was the content:


She revealed that President Bush had penned a poem for her when she got back from a five-day solo trip to Europe, where she attended a book festival in Moscow and visited France -- getting two kisses on the hand from French President Jacques Chirac.

"President Bush is a great leader and a husband, but I bet you didn't know he is also quite the poet," she said. "Upon returning home last night from my long trip I found a lovely poem waiting there for me."

As her husband watched quietly, she recited it.


"Roses are red/Violets are blue/Oh my, lump in the bed/How I've missed you."

Bush sometimes refers to his wife as a lump in the bed.

Mrs. Bush went on:

"Roses are redder/Bluer am I/Seeing you kissed by that charming French guy."

And then the finale:

"The dogs and the cat, they missed you too/Barney's still mad you dropped him, he ate your shoe/The distance, my dear, has been such a barrier/Next time you want an adventure, just land on a carrier."




She said it with her own words. She recited the poem "quietly" while Bush was watching her.



Now take a look at the new CNN link

http://edition.cnn.com/2003/ALLPOLITICS/12/29/elec04.prez.laura.bush.ap/index.html

and here is the new content:


Mrs. Bush also said that a poem she had recently attributed to her husband -- in jest, she added -- was not his work. The first lady had read the poem to an audience of book lovers in October after returning from a trip to Paris and Moscow. It read in part: "Roses are red/Violets are blue/Oh my lump in the bed/How I've missed you."

Many people believed the president had written the poem, but she was joking when she told listeners it was his, she said.




It was a really funny joke. I had a good laugh.
But what is the point to reveal the "truth"? Maybe this is another joke?

Maybe this poem was a coded message to Saddam? Revealing the joke it's another message to Osama?

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 08:30 PM
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38. Do these people EVER tell the truth?
And some people wonder why I won't give anyone in the BFEE the benefit of the doubt. WHY IN GODS NAME WOULD I? Just look at their track record!

Oh...but Bush has brought honestly and integrity back into the WH...MY ASS!
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