Bush tells Baptists he won't sign any bill that destroys embryos

[maddezmom]

Source: CNN

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush reaffirmed his vow Wednesday to veto any bill that leads to the destruction of human embryos, including a stem cell bill recently passed by Congress.

"I used my first veto on a bill that would compel American taxpayers to support the deliberate destruction of human embryos, and I will veto any bill Congress sends me that violates the sanctity of human life," the president said at the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention.

He gave his talk from the White House via satellite to the audience in San Antonio, Texas.



Read more: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/europe/06/13/wednesday/index.html?section=cnn_latest

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remarks from * here:

http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/784613390.html

:puke:

[BOSSHOG]

1. But he'll lie and order thousands to their deaths as christians cheer wildly

[maddezmom]

2. sickening isn't it

:puke:

[Gato Moteado]

yes, it's all hypocrisy

but bush is just a retarded puppet who does what he's told.

will there be an equal uproar here aimed at the repukes in the congress that vote against the bill denying us a veto-proof two-thirds majority?

[louis-t]

3. Human embryos that will be destroyed anyway.

Sheeesh!

[wryter2000]

4. Hartmann debunked the "embryos" thing

They're blastocysts, not embryos. By the time they become embryos, the cells are too differentiated to be useful.

We have to start correcting this dishonest use of language in the same way we're calling the "war" in Iraq what it really is. An occupation.

[maddezmom]

5. thanks for the correction

:thumbsup:

Too bad * and his ilk aren't into Science anyway.

[wryter2000]

24. I didn't mean it as a correction so much as a heads up

I had to smack my head when I heard Hartmann say that. It's so obvious, but no one else has pointed that out as far as I know.

[whistle]

9. You mean that only blastocysts are transplanted into the womb

...at fertility clinics?

[Arkansas Granny]

12. Here is an image of a blastocyst ready for transplant:

More pics and info here:

http://www.advancedfertility.com/blastocystimages.htm

These are the "preborn" that the pro-life crowd is so protective of.

[whistle]

13. But even this site interchanges the term embryo in the various images

...I'm confused

[Spinzonner]

33. Looks just like his mother

at a corresponding age

[entanglement]

37. You owe me a new keyboard

:spray: :spray:

[Spinzonner]

46. Off course he also looks

just like his dog at the same age too

[Commie Pinko Dirtbag]

44. And to think there are IDIOTS who believe THAT thing can have a soul.

Some here at DU even. Come on, fundie trolls. I know you're here. Do your worst.

[MonkeyFunk]

45. I just alerted Bill Donohoe

you'll be receiving an angry fax shortly.

[Giant Robot]

17. I don't think it is dishonest use of language

Rather I suspect that science is hard for Bush and not something he wants to spend time to understand, so it gets explained to him in small words by the sycophants who surround him.

[wryter2000]

25. But everyone does it whenever addressing anyone

I've been using it. It's a lot harder getting worked up about an embryo than about a blastocyst.

[Giant Robot]

35. I certainly see your point and agree

However I was speaking about President Bush specifically, and my interpretation of what most likely goes on in the White House. I truly just don't think he understands.

[wryter2000]

38. You're no doubt right about that. n/t

n/t

[O.M.B.inOhio]

6. the press release should read, "see also: hypocrisy"

Somebody should add stem cell research to the war spending bill.

[Itchinjim]

7. "The sanctity of human life"

When did you become concerned about "The sanctity of human life" you repulsive and vile little man?

[whistle]

8. Embryos are being destroyed at fertility clients all the time

....is that now going to be stopped by Bush?

[StarryNite]

15. They are also being killed

daily in Iraq because of *'s war fetish.

[bdamomma]

10. he'll kill our soldiers, and that doesn't seem to bother him.

what an idiot this man is.

[whistle]

14. Wait until Bush the dictator begins a draft of embryos into the military

[Bitwit1234]

11. Course not...name one republican that has grown mentality than an embryo.

[OwnedByFerrets]

16. It is our responsibilty to change

the discussion from embryo's to blastocysts. It's to their advantage to use this word rather than the real word.
Its like calling this occupation a war when its nothing more than an illegal occupation. We have a responsibilty to use the correct language.

[Cass]

18. Has anyone ever asked him if he is opposed to in vitro fertilization?

That procedure typically leads to the destruction of excess embryos that have been created in the process. I'd like to hear his answer to that question. His staunch opposition to stem cell research using embryos that will be destroyed anyway is hypocritical bullshit.

[maddezmom]

20. not sure

But I've seen stuff on the internets this was the way the "Twins" came into the world. :shrug:

[Cass]

42. Wouldn't that be a jaw-dropper if it could be confirmed. nt

[sakabatou]

19. "'Cause, ya know, an unborn child is... heh heh-

More important than you ever be! ::insert evil smile::"

[napi21]

21. I want to hear HIM state that "No matter what breakthroughs are

made via embryonic stem cell research I WILL NOT EVER TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THEM FOR MYSELF OR ANY MEMBER OF MY FAMILY!"

He's allowed to have his own opinion on this subject, but I think that opinion should be coupled with his permanent refusal to ever take advantage of any benefits that might result from this research!

[daleo]

22. I wonder how many pregnant Iraqi women his war has killed? n/t

[maddezmom]

26. far too many

:cry:

[KansDem]

23. Do Baptists really take him seriously now after David Kuo's remarks?

Book says Bush just using Christians

‘Tempting Faith’ author David Kuo worked for Bush from 2001 to 2003

“Tempting Faith’s” author is David Kuo, who served as special assistant to the president from 2001 to 2003. A self-described conservative Christian, Kuo’s previous experience includes work for prominent conservatives including former Education Secretary and federal drug czar Bill Bennett and former Attorney General John Ashcroft.

Kuo, who has complained publicly in the past about the funding shortfalls, goes several steps further in his new book.

He says some of the nation’s most prominent evangelical leaders were known in the office of presidential political strategist Karl Rove as “the nuts.”

“National Christian leaders received hugs and smiles in person and then were dismissed behind their backs and described as ‘ridiculous,’ ‘out of control,’ and just plain ‘goofy,’” Kuo writes.

--more--
MSNBC

Hey, Baptists! That's you he's talking about! Or maybe you think he's referring to other "national Christian leaders."

[DrDan]

27. but as governor he sure had no problems signing execution orders

[jmowreader]

28. I'm actually shocked by this speech

Not that he's trying to retain what's left of his base, but that he's ALMOST in line with the truth.

Normally, when Fearless Leader or one of his f(r)iends in the Religious Right talks about stem cell research, this is what you hear:

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[truebrit71]

29. "Sanctity of life?" What about the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis your war has killed?

Did they not have "sanctity of life" as well?


You fucking hypocritical piece of shit.... :grr:

[Megahurtz]

30. I am Speechless in Disgust.

:puke:

[Betty]

31. he wants the embryos to grow up so he can ship them off to Iraq

where they will die for their glorious leader.

[scarface2004]

32. he meant republican embryoz!

democratic embryoz can be flushed down the toilet...no problemo!!

[wageslave71]

34. Gotta mobilize that base for '08

[olddad56]

36. I can think of someone who should have been destroyed as an embryo

[area51]

39. GW Hoover does not believe in the sanctity of human life.

If he did, he'd be fighting to transition this country to single-payer, universal healthcare like the civilized countries have. There is no more pro-life position than single-payer, which can save thousands of lives per year.

[bemildred]

40. Bills don't kill embryos, people kill embryos. nt

[olddad56]

41. I'm surprised he isn't pushing a bill to clone soldiers.

[yardwork]

43. He's protecting his buddies in private industry from competition.

The private research companies can do anything they want with human embryos and this way, they'll get to keep the patents and profits all to themselves.