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MrPrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:00 PM
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Breaking: U.S. 'mad cow' traced to Canada: USDA
Last Updated Sat, 27 Dec 2003 12:31:55

WASHINGTON - The cow in Washington state that tested positive for mad cow disease, formally known as bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), was likely imported from Canada, the U.S. Department of Agriculture said.

The cow was part of a herd of 74 Canadian dairy cows that were sent from Alberta to Eastport, Idaho in August, 2001, the USDA tentatively concluded Saturday. The animal joined the herd in Mabton, Wash., in October 2001.
<snip>
Ron DeHaven, the USDA's chief veterinarian, said the infected Holstein was born in April 1997, the same year Canada and the U.S. banned the practice of feeding cow byproducts to cattle.
<snip>
When news of the first U.S. case of mad cow disease was announced last Tuesday, officials believed the Holstein was only four years old.

"There is some discrepancy in the records," DeHaven said.
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/12/27/madcow031227

*when the first reports broke about the BCE in American cows, there was an immediate story that the cow was originally from Canada, but quickly dismissed...now it's back (maybe true, maybe not)
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Flubadubya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:02 PM
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1. Blaming Canada before Clinton?...
now there's an interesting twist. :eyes:
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:04 PM
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2. Blame Canada!
Oh how that song rings true. Kinda like we blamed them for the Blackout, even though First Energy was to blame. I don't recall hearing a public apology to our Canadian brothers for that one.

Jay
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November 2004 Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:38 PM
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13. Blame Canada
A great song from "South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut".


(I saw it with Wes...that's General Clark to you! :loveya:)
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nyrnyr1994 Donating Member (525 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:16 PM
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20. Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 02:20 PM by nyrnyr1994
Times have changed,
Our kids are getting worse
They won't obey their parents,
They just want to fart and curse

No!
Blame Canada!

With all their beady little eyes,
their flapping heads so full of lies
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault

He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to
join the klan!

but now when I see him, he tells me to fuck myself

Well, Blame Canada!

It seems that everything's gone wrong since
Canada came along
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!

Instead he burned up like a piggie on a barbecue

Heck no!
Blame Canada!
Blame Canada!
With all their hockey hubaloo

Blame Canada!
Shame on Canada!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
must all be undone
We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming us!

http://www.lyricsxp.com/lyrics/b/blame_canada_south_park_parents.html

(no offense to our Canadian DUers :grouphug: )
EDIT: Bold emphasis added
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:09 PM
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3. I KNEW this was coming!....From the first, when showing Washington state
on the map (where the mad cow came from) CNN always showed Canada printed prominently on the map just above Washington....As a rule when showing anything concerning a northern state, it would be shown as if there was nothing above it....(Canada was almost always ignored)...When I saw how they were showing Canada as being just north of Washington, I said to my husband....they are going to try to link this to Canada!
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:15 PM
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4. Let's make a deal
We don't blame Canadians for mad cows from Alberta (North Texas), if Canada does not hold all of us responsible for mad presidents from Texas.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:18 PM
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5. It's amazing, how much bullshit can be bought. . .
by a multi-billion dollar industry under siege.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:20 PM
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6. did they find another passport?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:29 PM
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12. mooooooo, eh.....was a dead giveaway.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 01:31 PM by peekaloo
:bounce:
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barbaraann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:26 PM
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22. LOL!!
It was probably also very polite while waiting in line at the feeding trough. :-)
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vanityfair Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:55 AM
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40. ROLFMAO!
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 12:56 AM by vanityfair
Thank God somebody has a sense of humour!


I will be so glad if the US ever quits whining and gets out of self-pity mode. Your government is not much for taking responsibility for anything, EH?


(With apologies to all American DUers!)

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Mr. Brown of MD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:21 PM
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7. Well, that's lovely
If it had mad cow disease before it came from Canada, then it's been in the US for two years with BSE.

If it did not have mad cow disease before it came from Canada, then it contracted BSE while in the US.

Neither of these sounds very good.

-CollegeDude
Neither one better than the other
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JailForBush Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:22 PM
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8. The U.S. banned the practicie of feeding cow byproducts to cattle?
"Ron DeHaven, the USDA's chief veterinarian, said the infected Holstein was born in April 1997, the same year Canada and the U.S. banned the practice of feeding cow byproducts to cattle."

I thought that was precisely the practice that was suspect???
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rustydad Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:31 PM
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24. Not sure
But I heard that the disease is in the brain and nerve tissure and that those tissues are not feed to cows. The issue likely is how does one remove nerve tissues from the bones, organs, and muscel tissue from the carcus before it is ground into protien meal and feed back to other cows. Could be off on this though. Bob
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:14 PM
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29. When the farm subsidy bill was passed
this banning was lifted by Republican Senators. It was another one of their sneaky add-ons to bills.
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jmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:44 PM
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36. The US sort of did but with a ton of loop holes.
Edited on Sat Dec-27-03 04:44 PM by jmm
For example even though cattle isn't suppose to be feed to other cattle, cattle can still be feed cattle blood and restaurant wastes.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:10 AM
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47. Yep
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 11:13 AM by Lindacooks
Cannibalism, by any species, is not what nature intended. You do something stupid like feeding animals their own, and it's eventually going to hurt the entire food chain, including those at the top (humans).

The FDA has been a weak, mostly symbolic agency since that asshole Reagan slashed it in 1981. Do you drink aspartame? Did you know it was considered too dangerous for human consumption by food scientists in the 1970s, then Reagan came along, destroyed the FDA, and bam!! aspartame is approved. Same thing with food inspectors. Most meat inspectors (and there are pitifully few of them) inspect meat by SIGHT and SMELL. Read 'Fast Food Nation' by Eric Schlosser and you'll clearly see how Republicans have destroyed the food monitoring system in this country.

Here's a quote from a review of that book at Amazon.com: "(Schlosser's) searing portrayal of the (meatpacking) industry is disturbingly similar to Upton Sinclair's 'The Jungle', written in 1906: nightmare working conditions, union busting, and unsanitary practices that introduce E. coli and other pathogens into restaurants, public schools, and homes."
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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:22 PM
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9. Unfrickinbelieveable!!
Just like the mad cow from Great Falls Montana a little while back that got blamed on Canada. I wonder how much the U.S. govt. paid Canada to take the blame again?
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Redleg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:27 PM
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10. I'm not surprised. The Repubs will now commence with Canada bashing.
That ought to give the French a breather.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:29 PM
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11. See it wasn't our problem!
It was those damn canucks!
/sarcasm
move along
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 01:53 PM
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14. Only yesterday thet were saying we may never know
where the cow came from. Today the rumor is that Canada is to blame. Tomorrow it will be something else. First step, create confusion and point fingers away from repubs.

Second step. Months later when the truth comes out, no one will notice because we will be embroiled in the next atrocity.
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FredrickDouglass Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:12 PM
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18. Exactly
You're not alone in your notice of this pattern of deception and propaganda.

Fred D
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:00 PM
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15. I really wonder about this misadministration.
Do they have a "thing" for Canada?

Recall a few months back, to July. Remember the power outage which struck the East Coast and part of Canada. After a little bit of jockeying, the finger of blame was pointed squarely at Canada. "It's your fault". I recall very distinctly though, after about a week, the source was traced to Ohio, without doubt. But that was very quiet, I noticed.

Before that, we had another cow incident, and wasn't there something about a health scare in Toronto a few months back?

This administration is trying to nail Canada, and I'm not sure why.
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grok Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:05 PM
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16. Could it be..
because they din't support the US in the Iraq war? Easy way to do it and still look righteous and safetyminded.

Payback's a b*tch!

Grok

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:08 PM
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17. Could it be that Canadian gov't officials openly called Bush a "moron"?
Bushie doesn't forget or forgive easily!!
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:18 PM
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37. Not like they were LYING!
Bush really is a moron.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:18 PM
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21. sure they're trying to nail canada
because the canadian gov't has the balls to make their OWN laws regarding marijuana, which coincidentally, are contrary to our own. most americans don't understand how HUGE the marijuana/hemp issue is! allowing hemp/marijuana here would have a stunning impact on all kinds of products and their uses. they would NEVER allow it here, because the profit margin is so much lower than say, wood.

it all boils down to the friggin almighty dollar and corporate greed. makes me want to :puke:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:27 PM
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23. They think Canada should just be "annexed" so we can steal your
resources in a civilized fashion.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:11 PM
Response to Reply #15
28. They did not play ball wiht our Imperial war that is why nt
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:14 PM
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19. I remember in the Alberta case...
one of the stories that went around was that the cow came from the US,as the herd was bought piecemeal.



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truthseeker1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:38 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. that cow was from Great Falls, Montana
but of course, Canada got the blame
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chenGOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 11:19 AM
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48. And there you go....
thanks. Do you happen to have a link for that? I need something to show some "friends" of mine.
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classics Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 02:36 PM
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25. YEA RIGHT
And the blackout was Canada's fault too right?

Except that it actually was caused by an auto plant in CLEVELAND.

This is obvious, disgusting passing of the buck. They are hurting and looking for a scapegoat... AGAIN.
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Blue Gardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:08 PM
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27. It wasn't Canada that let the meat get into the food supply
Whether it came from Canada or not, the US let the meat into the food supply even after suspecting it had Mad Cow. Can't blame that on anyone else.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 03:26 PM
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30. But they'll try.
After all, they managed to convince the nation that Saddam is responsible for 9/11.
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:08 PM
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31. Now on CBC Newsworld: "No definitive evidence" of Canada link
Live news conference on now, from Canadian agriculture officials. I'm sure a story is coming soon.
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:34 PM
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32. Why is CNN not carrying this news conference live...since it is so vital!
Perhaps they would just rather leave the impression that the cow really did come from Canada?????....
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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:36 PM
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34. I'll assume ...
... your question is rhetorical. :)
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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:37 PM
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35. Exactly!
:)
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 04:36 PM
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33. That's OK then
The U.S. is safe. Have an all beef hotdog to celebrate. Don't be shy.
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:35 AM
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41. yeah like I'll play a friendly game of russian roulette too
beef hotdog?

yeah,
ok, I'll have a cow hot dog then
I'll wash it down with some Limbaugh pain killers,
and puff some Bush crack, and than have some unsafe sex.

party on
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 06:49 PM
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38. Bomb Canada
I also herd the cow was French-Canadian!
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:51 AM
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46. And don't forget that when the US killed those Canadian
soldiers, that the bastards expected us to apologize!!!!

Showed them, by god!

Everybody re-rent Canadian Bacon!
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Grey Donating Member (933 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:17 AM
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39. Where are the others,
If the herd was 74 cows, where are the other 73? Are they being traced?
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NIGHT TRIPPER Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 01:36 AM
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42. pardon the pun but this is BULL
*
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Rainbows Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #42
45. Maybe Not Bull ...
I could have sworn I saw OSAMA with a dialysis backpack riding that cow across the border back in 2001. (paid for by the re-elect Bush campaign). :-)
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:43 AM
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43. Yes. Did you know that Howard Dean is also ALMOST from Canada?
Coincidence? I think not!
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:29 AM
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44. What, exactly, are you talking about
Close only counts in horseshoes, hand grenades and nuclear war.

You can't be "almost from Canada".

...and how is that concidental to anything?
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