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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 10:58 AM
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Qaeda Vows 'Back-Breaking' Strike, Magazine Says
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 11:01 AM by pinto
Fri December 26, 2003 09:07 AM ET



DUBAI (Reuters) - A London-based Arab magazine said on Friday that al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden has vowed to launch a "back-breaking attack" on the United States by February, confirming an earlier message by the militant network.
The weekly al-Majalla said it received an e-mail from Abu Mohammed al-Ablaj, a little known al Qaeda member, saying bin Laden would release a video tape in which he affirms his group's determination to fight the United States.

"A messenger of bin Laden informed him (Ablaj) that the al Qaeda leader will appear on a televised tape after the execution of an operation which bin Laden described as back-breaking and which would change the order of things," al-Majalla said in a report in its latest edition, a copy of which was sent to Reuters.

<snip>
In the e-mail, which could not be immediately authenticated, Ablaj echoed his previous statement carried by al-Majalla in November saying the attack would take place before a Muslim feast which is celebrated on the last days of January or the first days of February.


http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=4046689

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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 11:02 AM
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1. al-Majalla is a suspected Israeli intel front...disinformation...
Just like the MEMRI folks....
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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 11:21 AM
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5. some follow-up, al-Majalla, etc. :
seems this "al-Ablaj" has been a regular "source" of purported threats for a couple of years....he's quoted all the way back to the "al-Qaeda to poison US water supply" blip...mag's out of Saudi Arabia, editor was based in DC in the 80's....

apparently 90,000 Arab readers, primarily business folks, in the region....

I take it with a big grain of salt.

it's a byzantine world.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 12:48 PM
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7. Since so many of the 'credible threats'
in the last few days are being based on such bogus sources of disinformation maybe we need an immediate investigation into Tom Ridge and his Dept. of Homeland Security?

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pinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:32 PM
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12. yep, at least some "friggin" oversight, as in Congressional? n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 04:46 PM
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20. Maybe we should write our Congress people
to investigate this fiasco when they get back from vacation?
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ahimsa Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:41 PM
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9. before or after the SOTU address?
:tinfoilhat:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:18 PM
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23. Both and in between times
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Military Brat Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 11:06 AM
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2. Now they want us hanging by our fingernails through February
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 11:08 AM by Military Brat
Well, the Saddam capture didn't quite have the effect desired, so it's time to roll out the Osama threat. And notice now that the threat isn't imminent as per the Orange Christmas alert, the France hijack plot was apparently another hoax, so our Team Paranoia needs to drag the fear out through February.

Information, misinformation, disinformation, they all work together. Who knows for sure what is coming from where?

Anyone else out there feel like we're stuck in a really really bad video game?

Edited for clarity.
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Blaze Diem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 11:09 AM
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3. But Saddam is in captivity!! We're much safer aren't we???
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 11:12 AM by Blaze Diem
Osama was the REAL problem from day one. Didn't the White House say a few months ago that Bin Laden wsn't a concern any longer...but Saddam was. Saddam didn't destroy the WTC, Bin Laden's people did. Bin Laden will not be persued by Bush because he is the son of the Bush friendly Bin Ladens of Saudi royalty. Even though they dis-own Osama, he stil is untouchable to Bush since he is Bin Laden "blood". The Royal Bin Ladens and the Bush family have done oil business in the past and are too close to each other for Bush to ever wipe out a member of that family. We're stuck with Osama until we have a President with less cronyistic ties to the middle east oil industry.
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 11:18 AM
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4. why do I 'fear' it's going to be a very 'orange' election year?
... the primary season is trending 'orange' already ...



Rove's Operation Watergate II ?
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 12:34 PM
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6. El stupido should have captured Osama first, but the oil
was more important than homeland security. And the tax cuts for the filthy rich like Chaney more important than spending on first responders. God bless America, God Bless the troops, and God save America from George W. Bush.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:07 PM
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8. Yes, he definitely should have focused on getting bin laden
instead of Iraq. This is gonna bite us so hard in the ass.

I don't understand WHY someone would "announce" they are gonna attack...this just never has made sense to me.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 01:55 PM
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10. It's all they have.
These announcements, if they are indeed announcements from al Qaeda, mean simply that they shot their wad already and have nothing left but big talk.

So they issue empty threats to scare the crap out of us.

For over two years they've been threatening, and we haven't seen squat from them. You almost start thinking al Jazeera is really on Ridge's payroll the way this has been working.

If there are credible reports of increased recruiting and fundraising and they shut up for a while, then I might worry about them.




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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:30 PM
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11. It might even be worse than that
We don't even know if they ever had anything planned for post 9-11. We haven't seen any real proof as of yet. There was an 8 year span between the two attempts at taking down the WTC towers. Hell, they might do nothing but TALK for the rest of this decade for all we know.

You can bank on constant fear-mongering, especially around election time. It will be so predictable, that I don't see how anyone will be able to miss it. You watch... Around election time, there will be threats coming from every direction.
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Roon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 09:42 PM
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24. al-queda has announced their attacks before
they announced their intentions weeks before 9-11..i remember the story..small article..section B
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:07 AM
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25. How dare you call him el stupidio?
El retardo is much better.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:41 PM
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13. again? How many times is this?
What are they supposed to say?

We're really hungry right about now, if you want to sign up, the entry fee is a case of soup.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:42 PM
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14. Osama and his *organization* are a PATSY...ala Oswald.....
....always has been and always will be...and there's NO WAY the PNAC will allow another 9/11 incident here IT WOULD ONLY HURT THEM NOW...NOT HELP....this is only the continuing FEAR FACTOR...s'perfectly clear to me anyway! :eyes:
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Intelsucks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 02:52 PM
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15. Not so sure I agree with that
A major terrorist attack in the US would help Bush in every way imaginable. It would put even more wind in his "let's go kick some more ass" sail. Until then, it will be 24/7 fear-mongering.
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jus_the_facts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:24 PM
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16. All that has been established already with 9/11....
....there already is 24/7 fear mongering and they've already gotten the go ahead from the sheeple to kick ass....I thought the same as you before I became much more informed about PNAC and their agendas...I hear continuously what the sheeple think and believe as I'm the black sheep renegade crazy liberal in my family and believe me 9/11 already gave them the power to do whatever the hell they wanna do...with all the *security* talk of the *homeland* they've spewed another attack on our soil will BACKFIRE in their faces if allowed to happen again! But the ignorance and insanity of the PUKES have always been their achilles heel...if they play with this fire again..it'll be their own undoing...at least that's what I hope for...who really knows anymore what they're reasoning will reap...remains to be seen as reality is an illiusion and illusion is reality...that is their most dangerous and working ploy at present. :shrug:
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scintlgst Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:37 PM
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17. YAAAWWWWNNN!!!
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 03:38 PM
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18. Big deal
The way my back is feeling today, I'm supposed to be impressed? ;)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 04:28 PM
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19. bush needs osama
so reports from a questionable operative will suffice in this instance.
must keep america confused and frightened.
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missile_bender Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:11 PM
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21. The GOP are desperately hoping this will happen.
And if it does, I know who I will suspect first.
Say goodbye Constitution.
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-26-03 08:17 PM
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22. Wag the Terror
Edited on Fri Dec-26-03 08:17 PM by realpolitik
Be afraid if you live in a big city.
Be afraid if you live in a little town.
Be afraid if you drive on the highway.
Be afraid if you take a plane.
Be afraid if you take a train, drink water, or handle any
powders.

But most importantly, be afraid of Democrat terrorists who were governor of Vermont.

What a craven f**king craven bunch of sheep they want us to be.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-27-03 12:08 AM
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26. We are sheep
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