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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:21 PM
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Rosie O’Donnell won’t return to ‘The View’
Edited on Fri May-25-07 02:31 PM by Bozita
Source: MSNBC - Breaking News

Rosie O’Donnell won’t return to ‘The View’
Announcement comes two days after heated on-air fight with co-host

BREAKING NEWS
MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 2 minutes ago

Two days after getting into a fiery on-air argument, ABC announced Friday that Rosie O'Donnell won't return to "The View."

Brian Frons, the president of the nework's daytime division said in a statement posted on ABCNews.com, "We had hoped that Rosie would be with us until the end of her contract three weeks from now, but Rosie has informed us that she would like an early leave. Therefore, we part ways, thank her for her tremendous contribution to 'The View' and wish her well."

O'Donnell released a statement following the announcement, saying, "I'm extremely grateful. It's been an amazing year and I love all three women."

Barbara Walters, the show's creator and co-executive producer, said, "I brought Rosie to the show. Rosie contributed to one of our most exciting and successful years at 'The View.' I am most appreciative. Our close and affectionate relationship will not change."

more...


Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18868354/



just announced at app. 3:10pm EDT
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:23 PM
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1. How...
Edited on Fri May-25-07 02:23 PM by Tandalayo_Scheisskop
Shall I continue? Take this chalice from my lips. Death, where is thy sting? ;-)
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:29 PM
Response to Reply #1
5. ...
:rofl: My bet is you'll survive. :D
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:33 PM
Response to Reply #5
6. Oh...
How you bring a small ray of hope into the swirling gray maelstrom of despair that is my meager existence, now that this news has been announced. I was bereft and anguished, rending my garments asunder and dusting myself with the ashes of mourning and inconsolable grief.

Really. No, really.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:53 PM
Response to Reply #6
26. ....
.........you made my tummy hurt....
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uberllama42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:11 PM
Response to Reply #6
79. I get the impression you read a lot
and don't spend that much time watching TV. My kind of guy.

Why does anybody care about Rosie O'Donnel? This crap shouldn't even top the news section on DU, let alone dominate the 'real news' outlets. I guess the destruction in Iraq has died down, huh?
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:30 PM
Response to Reply #79
89. This is way more than celebrity news.
Edited on Fri May-25-07 10:31 PM by Morgana LaFey
I'll tell you why we care. Rosie O'Donnell brought a genuine leftwing political point of view to daytime network television, reaching milions of people, mostly middle class women, many of whom had never HEARD such before. She'd been at it since September. Ratings for a show I literally couldn't stomach went up 15% during her tenure on The View. And as Keith Olbermann put it tonight, "raised the relevence" factor by about 450%. People loved her, loved hearing her point of view, loved The View with her on it.

NOT ONLY THAT, but she raised the bar for The View to such an extent that Barbara Walters is going to have to find someone comparable or equally "engaging" to fill her place. That won't be easy, but it's probaby possible.

So this isn't just celebrity news, not at all. It's POLITICAL news. It's "getting our word out" news. It's "reaching the masses with our message" news. It's more efforts to "stop the war" news.

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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:24 AM
Response to Reply #89
98. Thank you
It always suprises me when informed Dems still don't understand how the rePublicans operate and how they have dominated the message--and how that translates to votes.

The majority of people who vote are not informed and form their opinions from the crap that is offered on tv. The View reaches millions of viewers, and until Rosie the strongest opinions they heard was from the no-talent gop-bot EH. Since Rosie has been on (I luv her) Joy has been more out spoken and the audience has had a panoramic view, not just the view from Rove's office.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #98
123. Yes, and because of it I've come to appreciate Joy quite a bit
more than I had in the past. She is a terrific liberal, and with her killer sense of humor, she's great. Obviously needed someone like Rosie to run interference for her, which is fine.
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:59 PM
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124. I have always liked Joy
I have always liked Joy, I like witty opinionated women with an East Coast attitude. But it wasn't until Rosie (and maybe the sheer lunacy of the times that we live in) that Joy found her voice and spoke up on controversial political subjects.

I hope that Joy realizes how badly her voice is needed, especially with Rosie leaving, and continues to speak up--loudly.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:31 AM
Response to Reply #89
109. Thank you. nt
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:24 PM
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2. Really? Well, then I'm deleting it off my TiVo right now. Bye, Rosie! I'll miss ya! n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #2
8. I'm betting you were the first of many, including my mom
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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:53 PM
Response to Reply #8
12. Count me in that, deleting my pass from Tivo
The only reason I was watching it was Rosie.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:50 PM
Response to Reply #12
84. The pol on the msnbc site is being freeped big time.. nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 02:34 PM
Response to Reply #84
116. Definitely -- The View's ratings were dismal before Rosie came on
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:16 PM
Response to Reply #2
28. Well...
let's hit a lesbian bar for Happy Hour! How about it girls?...Here's to Rosie!
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Imalittleteapot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:00 PM
Response to Reply #2
76. The View has been deleted from my TIVO Season Pass. nt
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:26 PM
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3. I guess she couldn't wash the stink of Hasslebeck off
Love ya Rosie. I do hope you pop up somewhere else.
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:27 PM
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4. Ratings now gone from the View
Rosie took them with her.
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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #4
16. I agree.
Edited on Fri May-25-07 03:06 PM by SayWhatYo
I wonder how many people watched just because of her... I mean, obviously her fans watched because of her, but how many people who didn't like her, watched just because she made it interesting to watch?
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:33 PM
Response to Reply #16
90. I'm one -- if they don't replace her with someone AT LEAST AS
good (and liberal!!!!!), I'll not be back. I couldn't stomach that stupid, vapid show before she showed up. ONce she did, I scheduled myself to BE there for it, if at all possible.

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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:34 PM
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7. Now they need to dump the blonde boob job too.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #7
36. Yep!
Just like Star Jones - Blond EH is just too mean!
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:01 PM
Response to Reply #7
56. Oh GEYAWD YES! What an insipid mama's girl she is.
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Edith Ann Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #7
66. Rosie
I didn't watch the show except by accident. I agree they need to get rid of the dumb blond, but what ever they do its still one of the worst shows on TV. Rates with Katie Couric's news show.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:27 PM
Response to Reply #66
81. The ratings tell a different story. They were highest with Rosie.
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merci_me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:43 PM
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9. I only watched "Hot Topics" and only because of Rosie.
However, I'm going to miss Joy, too, since there's no way I'll tune in again. Well, back to HGTV at 10am for background noise while I work.
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moonlady0623 Donating Member (145 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:26 PM
Response to Reply #9
20. Ditto
your life sounds like mine
I will check it out Tuesday tho to see what Barbara has to say about it all.

I do love Joy, I hope she speaks up more often.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #20
49. From that clip I viewed, from the final throwdown between Rosie and EH ...
... it seemed that Joy was actually trying to have a relevant discussion regarding a list of specific complaints she had regarding the Bush Administration, issues which she felt warranted getting rid of Bush (i.e. impeachment), but the Rosie/EH throwdown totally derailed Joy's theme. I was very annoyed that Rosie allowed herself to fall back into fighting about that previous issue, as I would've loved to have heard them work through some of Joy's accusations.

Hope she tries again...
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 02:20 AM
Response to Reply #49
106. Ro & Eh
... this was a continuation of last week between them, Joy was irrelevant to the argument continuation.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 02:33 AM
Response to Reply #106
107. I understand the sequence of events
See my post here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=2858857&mesg_id=2859105

My point in the above post is that this "argument continuation"... initiated by Rosie in this final segment... derailed the "How do we get rid of Bush?" topic that Joy was trying to lead. I'd rather that had continued; it would have been much more productive.

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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 02:32 PM
Response to Reply #107
115. Agreed!
Bush tactics - Change the subject!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:59 PM
Response to Reply #9
45. I'll miss Joy too but I will never watch again
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nc_gadfly Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:44 PM
Response to Original message
10. now if fox really wanted ratings they should fire colmes
Imagine a "Hannity & O'Donnell"
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:45 PM
Response to Reply #10
39. I'm sure Hannity has imagined that
and has then awakened, drenched in sweat, to discover that it is 3:30 AM, and he was having another nightmare :P
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #39
50. Chuckle!!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:35 PM
Response to Reply #10
91. What a fun fantasy! Wow!
Love it.

WELCOME TO DU!
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BrokenBeyondRepair Donating Member (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:46 PM
Response to Original message
11. hasslebeck is an idiot.. fun to look @ though
..until she opens her mouth
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:54 PM
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13. now i'm curious... what was the fight about? (eom)
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 02:58 PM
Response to Reply #13
14. Here, just watch the video...
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:03 PM
Response to Reply #14
27. she won't come back to the view because of THAT episode???
i didn't see anything in there that warranted her leaving the show. am i missing something? did christine elevate it to a physical thing? because if she did, she'd be in for real surprise. i think rosie could take care of herself quite well. but i don't see (in that clip) any reason for her leaving the show. there's gotta be more to it. was she too liberal for the producers?
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
46. There is a whole lot of back story that goes into her leaving
But that episode was the straw that broke the camels back
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #27
47. If you go to her blog.............
she answers some questions, and makes it clear that she is just very weary of the whole situation.

http://www.rosie.com/blog/sections/ask-ro/
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ChazII Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #27
62. Glad to see that I wasn't the only one
confused. Rosie left because of this scene??? Glad that I have next week off. Hopefully something wil be said on Tuesday.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #13
59. Here's the chain of discussions leading to the final throwdown...
Here's the video clips including the exchanges that lead up to the final throwdown.


Rosie's original statement Re: 655,000 dead Iraqi civilians.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsS8ncCRCwQ

Example pundit hackery framing Rosie's statement as calling the troops terrorists (rather than correctly conveying her position that the Iraqi citizenry certainly feels terrorized nowadays, and our invasion is nearly completely to blame for the situation).
Scarborough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_QToxyRc1o
FOX/Gibson: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zet9MvnDLrw (up to 3:00 mark, after intro)
Chris Matthews: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18739520 (transcript)

Rosie's first questioning of Hasselbeck, as to whether EH believes that Rosie thinks the troops are terrorists.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=385&topic_id=30218

Final throwdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=30628



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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:49 PM
Response to Reply #59
67. I will miss Rosie
We think alike, but she has the courage and a big megaphone to express our anger and frustration with MSM fear of anyone expressing the REAL truth about this horrid Bush Administration. I hope Rosie gets another spot with another big media, as was reported. Also, Randi would be a great as one of the panelist.
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liberalla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:37 AM
Response to Reply #67
108. Yep! I can't wait to see where Rosie ends up! There's been
much talk/speculation about her getting her own show again and continue the political (liberal) discussion.

Also, I heard somewhere that Rosie's own suggestion as to who should replace her was Whoopi Goldberg.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:54 PM
Response to Reply #59
68. Excellent post! ... Thank you.
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leQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #59
75. the final throwdown link is dead. got a correction?
i'm trying to get an idea of what is going on over there
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:20 AM
Response to Reply #75
104. Urgh. Yes, here. (Same clip as linked to in post 14)
Final Throwdown
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=30628&mesg_id=30628

(I thought I'd tested 'em all; sorry. Got a bit aggressive in trying to shorten the URL length, for no good reason.)
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anitar1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:04 PM
Response to Original message
15. Rosie certainly made E. lose her sweet cool persona. n/t
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:08 PM
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17. You know who would make a good replacement for RO'D?
Randi Rhodes.

She's smart.
She's attractive.
She's funny.
She's just "girly-girl" enough that she could chit-chat about "Idol" and fluff stuff like that. (Don't beat me up about the "girly-girl" statement - you know what I mean)

When the conversation turned to politics as that show often does - watch out - the stupid ones would have to crawl under the table because she'd rip them to shreds.

Of course, I know this is a totally dumb post and that's because I'm a totally dumb guy, and that Eva Braun has a better chance of replacing RO'D than Randi.

It's just that she's off today, so there was no "It's Friday Ya Bastids" and I'm missing my Randi fix.

Pardon me now, while I go stand in the corner and hang my head and bite my lower lip for embarrasing myself.

:crazy: :silly: :dunce: :cry:

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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #17
25. Don't be embarrassed. You make a good suggestion.
I'd love to see Randi or Stephanie Miller. Doubt if it will happen, though. I'll miss Ro on the View. It was nice knowing thee.
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janetle Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #25
34. I agree completely
I would tune in to see Randi. I only tuned in to see Rosie because she spoke outloud what we are all thinking. The show will be nothing without her. I will not watch it anymore.

The MSM has no clue nor any idea that a majority of women in this country are not with this group who is running things in DC!!
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:41 AM
Response to Reply #34
99. On the contrary.....
MSM knows for sure that the majority of women (and men for that matter) are not with these crackpots.

This is why they try so hard to suppress any message contrary to the Bush, Rove fax machine.
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DianaForRussFeingold Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:40 PM
Response to Reply #17
35. I love your idea for replacement for Rosie!
In a more perfect world in TV land , they would also boot the survivor blond off the show and replace her with a true American heroin who's also smart, articulate, self-confident and a great role model like this one
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:18 PM
Response to Reply #35
80. she's HOT
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:43 PM
Response to Reply #17
37. Why just women?
How about a guy - or is a women only club?
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:42 PM
Response to Reply #37
92. it's women only -- that's the premise
basically. Men can be guests.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:12 AM
Response to Reply #92
103. I know but...
... it always bothers me if I hear "women only", "men only", "whites only" and so on...
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:26 PM
Response to Reply #103
121. Yeah, like "women only" oppresses so darned many MEN
Sheesh. Get real, will ya?
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:54 PM
Response to Reply #17
53. It's Friday Ya Bastids!
There ya go.

:evilgrin:
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silverojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:56 PM
Response to Reply #17
54. Ooh, Randi Rhodes...I like it!
She'd shove Elizabeth's bleached blond head so far up her butt, that it would require surgery to undo the damage, LOL!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:09 PM
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18. MSM will depict this as some sort of big win for the right
I'm not going to the company gym today so I am going to the misfortune of never knowing how Inside Edition treats this.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:17 PM
Response to Original message
19. Will be interesting to see who The View producers pick to
Edited on Fri May-25-07 03:25 PM by LibDemAlways
replace her. After many boring seasons, she finally made The View interesting. They were damn fools to let her go.

And what about Noodlehead Hasselbeck? When will her 15 minutes be up? I agree wholeheartedly with Trump's assessment of her as one of the dumbest people on tv. She should have been given her walking papers long ago.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:44 PM
Response to Reply #19
52. Aside from the ratings boost, she brought up liberal issues to a demographic
that consists of a lot of people who get their news from conservative media. I don't expect ABC to make that mistake again.
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:35 PM
Response to Reply #19
87. Rosanne Barr wants the part
we'll see if she gets it. I'd prefer Kathy Griffin
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #87
93. Kathie Griffin doesn't strike me as either very bright or very
well informed. YMMV.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:57 AM
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102. You're wrong about Kathy. Sharp as a tack, well informed and extremely liberal.
AND Kathy supported our troops by donning a flak jacket, going to Iraq and performing for them. She felt it was important to show them she supported THEM though she loathes the WAR.

AND ... her stand-up act makes me pee my pants! I want her to host the Oscars, too.

Roseanne would be a good fit for Rosie's replacement -- she's loudmouthed and liberal, too.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:25 PM
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120. Okay. I'll accept your take on her.
But I don't care for her myself. I saw her on The View not long ago and just didn't enjoy her, and I've seen her act (or parts of it) and ditto. I'm also having trouble imagining her as quite the humanitarian Rosie is. But, as I said, tastes can vary.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 05:04 AM
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126. How about Elaine Boosler or Margaret Cho?
I've heard Elaine when she fills in for Stephanie Miller, very entertaining, but also very well informed. I just hope that Patricia Heaton doesn't get it, as her name was "supposedly" in the mix before Rosie joined.
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 09:44 PM
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128. I haven't even thought of Elaine Boozler for ages. Margaret Cho
is funnnnnny!! She'd be a hoot.

What made Rosie so good was that she was also adept at the MC part, as well as all the rest of what she is and does. That's because she had her own show for a while, and has been very active producing things. So whoever takes her place is going to have to be able to do that as well. And of course, there's direction that goes on, but still, I think there's more to it than just following the direction that comes thru the earpiece.
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shaniqua6392 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:27 PM
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21. Rosie brought The View's ratings up almost 20%!!
That show is going to go back into the toilet now where it belongs. I could never stomach it before Rosie came on and now I will never watch it again. ABC is so stupid. They should have let EH out of her contract early and kept Rosie.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:28 PM
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22. Rosie should offer to do the show for free until that empty-headed blond bimbo...
signs herself into facility with "dehydration."

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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:37 PM
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23. I have never seen anything like that Elizabeth "moran" since I only
watch these shows occasionally on Youtube when y'all tell me there is something good. Despite what some have said, I thought that Rosie was quite calm considering and that the Liz gal never took a breath or let a word in, even if edgewise.
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TNOE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 03:45 PM
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24. DAMMITT ANYWAY!!!!
This is "horrible" news for me - man, Rosie was awesome - and she was cracking the veil. I hope they get somebody good to replace her!!!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:18 PM
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29. Rosie's gone, I'm gone. EH is a boot licking brown shirt with no hope of making it on her own.
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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:24 PM
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30. RIP Rosie.
The show looked like nonstop stress, worse than a roller coaster. Hopefully she'll get much needed rest and be back strong as ever in a few years.
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:31 PM
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31. Just sent emails to Joy and Barbara about dropping the View from our house now.
Edited on Fri May-25-07 04:31 PM by caligirl
EH may have just killed the show with her shrill verbal assaults.
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19jet54 Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:45 PM
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38. Not such a bad idea?
KILL THE WHOLE SHOW!
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:56 AM
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101. web site has email on left of page here
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:47 PM
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94. I'd like the email addresses too!!! nt
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 12:55 AM
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100. its at the web site left of the main page here
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 07:26 PM
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122. Thanks -- reminds me of that time-honored advice:
If all else fails, read the instructions. :evilgrin:
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:33 PM
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32. The View should go after Kathy Griffin
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:47 PM
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40. This is news... how?
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:43 PM
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51. you're joking
she is constantly attacked by right wing media for bringing up on national television to huge daytime audiences that the President and Vice President need impeached and that 9/11 was a precept for Iraq Invasion, and you ask why her leaving the View is news....

she's one of the lone voices on ABC NBC CBS CNN FOX that was bringing up the crimes of the Bush administration and you ask how it's news???

Come ON, Aya! It's far from being trivial like the new Underworld movie, or Paris' shortened jail time - we're talking a nationally WELL know Democratic backing voice who was speaking truth to power on daytime television to millions of people.


www.cafepress.com/warisprofitable <<-- check it out, top '08 stuff
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 12:46 AM
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125. Actually...
We knew she was leaving about a month ago. So, how is this news?
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-27-07 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #125
127. You don't find it news?
Or don't find it relevant? Why don't you go enjoy another thread. :hi:
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Strathos Donating Member (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:47 PM
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41. Count me out too
Rosie was the ONLY reason to watch. Tivo pass, deleted.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:48 PM
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42. Okay, the next liberal who takes that position MUST do their homework.
They need to read about a week of freerepublic, townhall.com and watch FoxNews and also watch reruns of Rosie's fights with Elizabeth. Then some british guy needs to teach them the art of debate. Any british guy would do.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:51 PM
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43. Rosie O’Donnell. I admire her greatly.
Rosie is the tomboy who would stick up for the little ones, the odd ones who were picked on in the playground when I was a kid.

Rosie is one of the bravest individuals in this country today. That's not hyperbole.

I stand with Rosie and will any day of the week...because she stood for me.
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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:57 PM
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55. well!
that's abfab! great post! :) :) :)
http://www.truecolorstour.com/ I wish I could go and see Ro and Cyn... :( they're not coming to FL as of yet.
I try to post on Ro's blog but the comments are always closed by the time I get to each new comment of her's. I've written on Cyn's blog, she's so fun lovin...
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:42 PM
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65. Thanks for sticking up for, Rosie.
It amazes me how people are more than happy to have someone stick up for their cause and then when that person comes under attack quickly turn against the one that helped them.

Rosie!
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LibraLiz1973 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:54 PM
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86. I totally agree with you
Liberals who attack her FOR BEING TOO LIBERAL make me nuts!!
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bear425 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 07:17 PM
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73. Beautifully said. I, too, admire Ro. She's really a person
with integrity. I feel for her during this right wing attack that she has had to endure. I hope she rests up and comes back stronger than ever without a rightie producer to muzzle her.

How 'bout we all meet in AC to see True Colors?
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:59 PM
Original message
We already have our tickets
for the True Colors at the Greek here in L.A.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 09:59 PM
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88. Dupe. Deleted.
Edited on Fri May-25-07 09:59 PM by David Zephyr
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 04:57 PM
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44. Entertainment News
It's not news I want to hear about and the MSM will certainly use the story so real news can be avoided at all possible costs.

I watched 'The View' when Rosie was on. My only comment to Walters was that the blonde bimbo Bushbot bitch (left the bitch out of the email) should be suspended or fired. No one should lose control like that. Shaking her finger and screaming. No offense to blondes. I would have called her a brunette bimbo Bushbot bitch if she had brown hair.

I made the mistakes of reading some comments although mine probably aren't much better. At least I have never heard a liberal tell someone they wish they would die.

'The View' ratings should tank unless the neocon crowd takes up the slack.
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DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 05:14 PM
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48. I didn't even start watching The View until Rosie.
I couldn't watch it every day but I recorded it often. I won't anymore because there's no reason.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 10:32 AM
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114. Same Here
bye, bye View, unless they hire Rosanne Barr
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mudesi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:05 PM
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57. It's infuriating that Elisabeth Hasselbeck stays
Isn't it typical that a right wing lying shill is never held accountable?
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:29 PM
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119. WE need to hold her accountable. The right always screams more loudly than
the left. That needs to change.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:11 PM
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58. ****But more importantly... ***JOY BEHAR (who basically indicted
the administration on Wednesday...leading to the exchange that caught everyone's attention) is staying. That's what I care about. :hi:
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:25 PM
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60. Yeah, I was annoyed that the discussion was derailed from Joy's original theme.
(Though I'd likely never have seen it, anyway, had the flare-up not occured.) Sure wish they'd have spent more time going through Joy's list of grievances. Some were just humorous ("he can't pronounce "nuclear"), but others mentioned actions warranting impeachment.

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screenplaya Donating Member (86 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:37 PM
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61. Bye Bye View
ABC should just give Rosie the half hour before the view to have her own round tables. Time for sweet little Liz to move to Fox News where she would get what she wants. Be careful what you wish for Lizzie.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:38 PM
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63. So unimportant
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:33 AM
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110. Is that so? Who ELSE is putting our point of view on network TV? nt
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johncoby2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:41 PM
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64. GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SHE'S NOTHING BUT A DISTRACTION!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:54 PM
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95. A distraction? From what? To whom?
Your post makes no sense. Please explain.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:33 AM
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111. Please explain, this makes no sense on the surface. nt
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JimDandy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:56 PM
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69. George Soros --- PLEASE start a media conglomerate and hire Rosie
for a daytime political show that tells it like it is. If stay-at-home Moms were given facts, instead of milk sop, they would vote democratic instead of Republican!
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:57 PM
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70. No war-opposers allowed on the TeeVee.
Even if two-thirds of the country think we should get the fuck out--you're not allowed to say so on the Boob Tube.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 06:58 PM
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71. AX10 leaves ABC dial for internet!
Rosie made that horrid show worth watching. It will be a bunch of fluff with some right wing propaganda thrown in here and there.
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 07:14 PM
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72. she just jumped off the Titanic
The show has always been an embarrassment. Rosie was the only one that has some integrity. Walters is a * lover as well and has disappeared into obscurity and irrelevance. Hasslehoff or whatever she's called is a clueless bimbo who yips uncontrollably like a chihuahua and needs a good smack on the nose with a rolled up newspaper.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:10 PM
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78. Neo, I like your analogy!
Thanks!
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Morgana LaFey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 10:58 PM
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96. Oh,. c'mon, David
You're going to sanction him calling her a bimbo? That SEXIST language? How would you feel about some homophobic language lobbed at Rosie (or even someone you don't care for, someone on the right)? You wouldn't like it. PLEASE, we who are members of oppressed groups need to stick together and confront /educate those who wittingly or un- help perpetuate the bigotry.

Please.
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Christa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 07:22 PM
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74. What a pity
I cannot stand that whining Elizabeth :puke:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:08 PM
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77. Good for them....
I still have ABC blocked on my tele, so it's not like I'll miss anything. But...every time a network shuts up another dissenting voice they add another nail to their coffin. Maybe Glen Beck can fill the spot? I hear he's a real rabble-rouser.
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:38 PM
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82. It's amazing that this is what passes for "news" in the United States of America.
All part of the dumbing down of America I guess. Maybe Joe "dead intern in my office" Scarborough can dedicate all 60 minutes of his crap show to it. And even our own beloved Keith Olbermann can fill his viewers empty heads with it for 15 minutes. What the fuck have we become? We don't want real news. We just want people arguing for a few minutes and a jump in the ratings! Silly ass country. We damn sure don't deserve our democracy.
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stillrockin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:53 PM
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85. Here's the deal:
Rosie O'Donnell is actually a hero. She put the truth out there for the 30%ers and got people to listen. She changed minds, opened some eyes. Much like Howard Dean and Dennis Kucinich, she has been vilified, reduced to a cartoonish-like character and attacked on a personal level. Yes, it's daytime t.v. crapola, etc., but she was one of only a handful of people who were speaking truth to power in corporate media. I for one would have preferred a hot poker to the eyes rather than watch such a show beforehand, but tuned in regularly for the hot topics portion for the pleasure of hearing the truth spoken over the airwaves. Needless to say, it's off my radar now . . .
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:34 AM
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112. Thank you. nt
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:20 PM
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117. I never saw "The View". Thanks for filling me in. ... eom
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 08:32 AM
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113. See the HIde Thread feature? Use it
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-25-07 08:40 PM
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83. Propaganda network tosses their slanted spin....
It was pathetic, as they edited out nearly everything Rosie said and made it look like the blonde airhead actually held her own. I don't know how I happened to see the whole incident, as I never watch the show, but somehow I did this time, and I would have to say it was a shouting match with both women looking pretty miserable. But of course, the nerds at the propaganda network made Rosie out to be a loser, and the blonde really stood tall....NOT.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:26 AM
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105. What we have here is bunch
of sacless people on the left that did not speak out and for Rosie. I am not saying in here because there were many, but I am talking about folks with some clout from newspapers, media, radio and tv.
All the damn right wing shows gave it to Rosie with both barrells, and not once did I see any left wing person take a stand for her.(not in here)
Liz is about the damn dumbest and ill informed person I know. The way I see it she is a another Condi Rice and to me Condi is the most over rated person I know.
I guess now Liz will be the poster child for the right wing, and claim she is the one that brough Rosy down.She will be making appearances on the Faux News shows.
I would venture to say the View is on the way out. Oh they will try to place someone there which they ABC will say is middle of the road but you can bet yo ass she will be leading right....So long The View....

Ben David
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:26 PM
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118. The minority is very vocal. We, the majority, need to take out hate
mongering propagandists like EH, Bill O'Reilly, Rush, Hannity, etc. We don't organize and scream loudly the way they do, we don't carpet bomb their sponsors to get that nonsense off the air. We need to start letting them know that WE WON'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!
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