Ahmadinejad: if Israel repeats her Lebanon mistakes, she'll be eradicated

[democratic]

Source: Ynetnews

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told INRA (the Iranian News Agency) Thursday that if Israel repeats the mistakes made last summer in Lebanon, the region's nations will eradicate her.


"The Palestinian people and the nations of the world have finally woken up. Should Israel repeat its mistakes in Lebanon, the wrath of the region's nations will eradicate the Zionist entity," said Ahmadinejad.

Read more: http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3404091,00.html

[whistle]

1. Is Ahmadinejad bluffing once again, or does he really have nuclear

...weapons to back up his threat?

[MUAD_DIB]

3. Like Bush, Ahmadinejad behaves stupidly.

If it is a bluff or not it is the wrong way for a nation's leader to act.


Right George?

[democratic]

4. Right

Except Ahmadinejad is not Iran's leader. Iran's leader is Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei. It is a common mistake to think Ahmadinejad has any power he has zero according to Iran's constitution.

[MUAD_DIB]

17. True, but he is the mouthpiece of their Right Wingers...

...just like lil boots.

[David__77]

10. Why is everyone so focused on nukes?

Iran doesn't need nukes. It already, legally, has stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons I would presume. What's more crucial than nukes are the means to deliver a "mass destruction" payload. Though their missiles have improved, I'm not sure they're there yet.

[barb162]

18. Does Ahma-nut- job want to start a war?

Maybe he wants nukes for that war. Maybe he wants some in stockpiles. He does want Israel wiped off the planet, you know.

[David__77]

22. My point was that Iran doesn't need nukes to attack Israel.

It can reap even more damage with other unconventional weapons it already possesses. The nuke issue is one the West is seizing on to more against Iran. And we've already seen that no degree of cooperation on Iran's part would satiate the Bush-type warmaniacs. Look at the example of Iraq.

[barb162]

27. I think the Iranian" leader" is possibly an egomaniac who thinks

that to play with the big boys, you need nukes. He's definitely a strutting style power-monger. No country "needs" nukes, but countries want them. I would not talk just about the West. I doubt if a lot of or any eastern countries want to see Iran with nukes. I think the UN (not just Bush) is pretty unified on this, what with the sanctions.

[ShortnFiery]

36. And how is Iran's nut case leader ANY DIFFERENT than our Little Boots Dear Leader?

BTW, the UN only reacts to what WE and a few other countries tells them to get upset about. Pakistan and India should draw much more concern where it comes to the Military use of NUKES. :scared:

[Buck Rabbit]

30. Bluffing what? He is pandering to his right wing base.

Notice he isn't even saying Iran would help in a fight against Israel. Waving pom poms from a far is about as far as they would go.

Iran is the least likely country in the middle east to commit national suicide for the Palestinians. They can offer moral support to them like we can offer moral support to the people of Tibet, but we aren't going to have a war with the Chinese for Tibet and Iran isn't going to war for the Palestinians.

Palestinians are Arab, Iranians are not.
Palestinians are Sunni, Iranians are Shia.
They don't even speak the same language.

How much financial aid does Iran give the Palestinians? Virtually Zip, yet some think they would commit national suicide for them? And the thought that a country run by a group of Islamic clerics would first strike nuke the Islamic holy city of Jerusalem killing as many Muslims as Jews is absurd.


(edited: spell checker doesn't read my mind apparently)

[roamer65]

2. Get ready for a regional ME war, folks.

Then it will become WW 3.

[ShortnFiery]

5. Blah blah blah ... twisted disinformation via B.S. translation = Propaganda. n/t

[Lurking Dem]

6. What he really said was

"I love Israel and the Israeli people! I am really just a lovable old mensch and wish to share bread with Zionists everywhere!"

:eyes:

[ShortnFiery]

7. No, but IRAN is not "the boogie-man" that the neo-cons are propping up. If you want to worry about

TERRORISM, look to Pakistan - a Nation that's MUCH MORE OF A TERRORIST THREAT due to it's political instability.

[democratic]

9. Short

You are a disgrace to Jimmy Carter who fought for the right for human rights and democracy in Iran. What a shame that you bury your head in the sand when it comes to an evil regime that Carter would have protested.

[billyoc]

11. Jimmy Carter is perfectly capable of protesting for himself.

I don't hear President Carter clamoring for a war with Iran, do you? :shrug:

[barb162]

16. After the hostage standoff debacle in Iran many years back,

I bet he does not like to think of these four letters: I, R, A, N let alone making any comments about that country. We shall see if some reporter somewhere along the line questions him about Iran nukes.

[anotherdrew]

21. protest against is not the same as authorize covert black ops against n/t

[ShortnFiery]

34. "You are a disgrace to Jimmy Carter" and You Sir, never fail to post HYPED-up articles about Iran.

In fact, as far as I know, IRAN bashing is "the only" posting that you have ever done. Have you ever commented in a thread other than one dealing with The Nation of Iran?

BTW You should be careful about inappropriate name-calling for you know that is against DU's rules of interpersonal respect. ;)

[barb162]

14. It's not just neocons. The UN is more than a bit worried about Iran

Last Updated: Thursday, 24 May 2007, 12:01 GMT 13:01 UK
UN warns on Iran nuclear schedule

Mohamed ElBaradei, the head of the UN's atomic agency, has said Iran could develop a nuclear weapon in three to eight years if it so chooses.
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In March, the UN Security Council imposed a second round of sanctions on Iran for failing to suspend uranium enrichment, prompting Tehran to limit its co-operation with the IAEA.
snip
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/6687137.stm

Pakistan is no prize package either, that's for sure.

[ohio2007]

26. Actually, it was the EU that raised the issue with the UN

we have been speaking softly behind the scenes but our big stick makes it look like we have have to play executioner or enforcer of justice.

lol, they will only get a wrist slap and a few minor sanctions of trade restrictions at best

[ShortnFiery]

35. Perspective people! Pakistan is much more dangerous than Iran having nukes. Why?

Pakistan is NOW becoming politically unstable, but Iran is NOT (politically unstable).

[ohio2007]

45. Don't hijack the thread. You claim the US should invade pakistan

then I suspect you would rail against it as the worst thing we could dhave done,to destabilize a nation at the brink of collapse ?

I didn't see Pakistan mentioned in the article

[ShortnFiery]

46. No! That's the point you "bomb um' into the stone agers" don't get. I don't want WAR!

No SANE person who loves their children should default to pre-emptive war. Besides being against international law to attack a sovereign nation, it serve NO humanitarian purpose. NONE AT ALL.

NO, what I'm saying is that we should be "more concerned with Pakistan because it is politically unstable."

If we truly wish to help usher PEACE within the Middle East we need to *focus* on diplomacy and interacting with Nations that are PRESENTLY (Pakistan NOT Iran) a TRUE NUCLEAR THREAT to our security in the USA.

As much as you hate Iran (why, I don't know for sure), they do have a STABLE Political System. It may presently be a harsh political system but it is stable and not near as thuggish as when the brutal Shah was in power. We all see what meddling in political problems of sovereign countries got us last time, i.e., installing the murderous Shah of Iran whom the people have NOT fully forgiven us for.

It's time to play "grown ups" and TALK to our enemies. I know it's going to bum out the War Corporations, but KILLING never solved international problems between two sovereign nations. It only serves to kill-off us peons while the "political elites" posture and pontificate.

[Lurking Dem]

47. Who on this thread

has said we should bomb Iran?

[democratic]

8. Short

see above

[Igel]

23. If so, it's IRNA's official disinformation and propaganda.

But what do they know, just as some say they don't know what they believe, presumably they also don't know what they say.

The OP was right; when people read it through other people's eyes, however, it gets a bit distorted. Read it for what it says, not for what you think RWers will assume it says; in other words, don't do their work for them or borrow trouble. Not worth it. Vita brevis and all that.

http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-22/0705243124200457.htm

In full:
Isfahan, May 24, IRNA
Iran-Zionist Regime-Ahmadinejad
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here on Thursday that the Zionist regime will face other nations's anger if repeats its past mistakes such as Lebanon's invasion.


Addressing large groups of provincial residents on his 29th provincial tour, Ahmadinejad said the Zionist regime should not think that it can pave the way for a repeated attack on Lebanon by assassinating the Palestinian leaders and crackdown on the public.

"Thanks God Almighty, the world nations and Palestinian people have become aware," he said, adding, "Any repetition of the mistakes will make regional nations angry and result in elimination of the Zionist entity."
Touching on the 60-year crimes of the Zionist Regime, including massacre of women and children at their houses and making the Palestinians homeless, Ahmadinejad noted that big powers do not oppose such actions and support the illegitimate regime instead.

Advising the Zionists to stop 60 years of massacre, assassination, crime and aggression, he said, "If you do not stop massacring, regional nations will soon come on the scene and eliminate you criminals."
AN/1420

[Socal31]

28. So you are saying...

He hasnt ALREADY called for the destruction of Isreal? So it is all BS translations? Maybe he really said "I would really like to visit Tel-Aviv this Summer, I heard it is quite lovely." Just because we have a leader that is a steaming pile of sh*t, doesnt mean that there isnt another one out there. Please provide the correct translation before you discount the one that is reported.

[smitty]

29. If you know the translation is B.S. , can you provide a non-B.S.

translation? Or are you just B.S.ing too?

[ShortnFiery]

37. Without a VALID second source, I'm justified in questioning the translation. n/t

[ButterflyBlood]

49. How about Iran's own official news agency?

Posted above. A link again: http://www2.irna.com/en/news/view/line-22/0705243124200457.htm

[Stella_Artois]

56. Thats interesting...

Since you speak Farsi and have translated the speach into English please post the correct text.

[nadinbrzezinski]

12. Ah the smell of nuclear explosions in the morning

is this idiot that short sghted?

We call it MAD... mutually assured destruction

[ohio2007]

13. I'm guessing Hizbollah may start lobbing Kassam rockets

across the border for some reason.I suppose as retaliation for what Israel is doing somewhere else? Whay else would there be a mindless rant from the Iranian runt?

[smitty]

15. Blah,, blah, blah. How many times has he said this crap?

[barb162]

19. How many times does he have to say it before it is taken seriously

[azurnoir]

25. So are you suggesting that

the US strike Iran?

[Socal31]

32. I would think.....

That its not the States' business. We are in enough BS right now. But if I were Isreal, I would take it VERY seriously.

[azurnoir]

33. I am not sure that Israel could

take on Iran single handed, not at least without sustaining serious damage in both human lives and property. Mr A is an elected official and does not have the backing of the Iranian people in general. Reality is that if it broke down to a one on one between Iran and Israel neither would come of it without near annihilation.

[ShortnFiery]

38. How about instead of starting WWIII we use something novel --> DIPLOMACY?

I'm sick of the dumb a**ed macho posturing ... all the needless death and destruction because all your armchair warriors want to claim "the biggest dick." :grr:

In the words of Winston Churchhill, "talk talk" is much preferable to "war war." :thumbsup:

[barb162]

41. All of Iran's neighbors should take it seriously too.

And whichever way the prevailing winds blow

[barb162]

39. No, and I wonder how you can possibly / remotely read that

into my post?

[azurnoir]

43. Its the

they're going to destroy Israel and something has to be done feel and it is not just you either. Any strike against Iran by Israel or the US would mean the destruction of both Israel and Iran and in the case of the US bring Iraq under even more fire thyen it already is.

Edited to add-Mr A (can not remember how to spell it) is a big mouthed ego manic but I do not think he's suicidal. He may huff and puff but it's a brick house.

[barb162]

40. dupe/self delete

[Mike Daniels]

20. Someone hasn't been studying history of the last 60 or so years

Seems like Israel has cleaned everyone's clock pretty handily in the past.

If Ahmadinejad is coming off this cocky then he's an idiot or he knows something that no-one else knows.

[ohio2007]

24. But they are on a losing streak if your talking records

of clock cleaning. They pretty much crossed into Lebanon and fumbled whatever goal they thought they could reach. Weapons have also advanced turning Israel real estate into the size of a postage stamp as the rockets flare.

[qazplm]

42. big difference

between attempting to root out every last terrorist, which is never going to happen, and defending your homeland.

Israel has pretty much proven they can fairly easily do the latter against the combined forces of the entire muslim middle east.

[anotherdrew]

53. 30 years ago might as well be another world

still, I do think they can defend themselves, but I would expect that if the shit does fly, the arabs won't just line up their men and hardware and try to drive in, they just might try using 'tactics' this time. but still, the defender is always at the advantage, we'd help for sure this time (and I think we should (probably the rest of NATO would too)) and really... the likelihood of any such attack is near zero, it's not worth it to anyone to attack. It won't happen, no matter what this nut imadinnerjacket says.

[azurnoir]

31. I would like to see a source

besides ynet, tried googling the headline got 2 this one and freerepublic where some of the comments were curiously close to some of those here

[JVS]

44. yeah yeah, and the great pumpkin is sure to show up one of these halloweens

[Hatalles]

48. What is this "she" business? Apparently, Israel is a female.

[ButterflyBlood]

50. People need to start treating this guy like some loon babbling on a street corner

Because that's all he is. The guy can't even order a soldier to shoulder their rifle much less a missile strike. He's nothing but someone similar to some whackjob screaming about how the end of the world is near and handing out literature, except he's got a position where his statements can be more visible. But his level of actual influence is the same.

[ShortnFiery]

51. Which guy - Bush or Ahmadinejad? They are equally f**king nuts.

:shrug:

[ButterflyBlood]

52. The guy the story is about: Ahmadinejad

I don't see where Bush was mentioned anywhere, or how he's in anyway relevant to this whatsoever.

[kitty1]

54. Bush and co are licking their chops at the prospect of Iran .....

instigating a war with Israel. There is the perfect opening that they have been waiting for to justify attacking Iran's nuclear facilities.
All Israel has to do is wait for the right scenario to lob missiles into Lebanon again. Iran will take the bait, attack back and voila, you have the ingredients for an Armageddon size ME battle.
Even if Iran didn't directly attack themselves, The U.S and Israel would find evidence to show that Iran conspired with Hezbollah and provided the ammo to attack Israel. Iran's MO so to speak.

[ohio2007]

55. U.S., Arabs rush military aid to Lebanon

snip
Eight military transport planes have landed at Beirut airport since late Thursday — four from the U.S. Air Force, two from the United Arab Emirates and two from Jordan.

The military said it received supplies from Arab countries and the U.S. but gave no details; media reports said they included ammunition, body armor, helmets and night-vision equipment.

U.S. military officials have said Washington will send eight planes of supplies, part of a package that had been agreed on but that the Lebanese government asked to be expedited.

About half of Nahr el-Bared's population of 31,000 fled the camp during the truce, flooding into the nearby Beddawi camp. At least 20 civilians and 30 soldiers were killed in the fighting earlier this week. The Lebanese military says 60 Fatah Islam fighters were killed, though the group put the toll at 10.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070526/ap_on_re_mi_ea/lebanon_violence


And the people the Lebanese govt opposes in these human sheild camps responds;

U.S. sends ammunition to Lebanon amid militant threat

The militant Fatah al-Islam group, which has vowed to fight to the death, said in a statement the U.S. military supplies included nerve gas and cluster bombs.

"If they use unconventional weapons against us, we will respond with unconventional attacks everywhere," said the statement, read by the group's spokesman Abu Salim Taha.


snip
Officials said they were giving mediators a chance to persuade the militants to surrender before ordering the army to move into the camp. The Lebanese army is banned from entering Lebanon's 12 refugee camps under a 1969 Arab agreement.

Hezbollah chief Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah said on Friday that storming Nahr al-Bared would mark a 'red line' and would plunge the country into an uncontrollable cycle of violence.

Shi'ite Hezbollah is the country's most powerful group but is at odds with the country's anti-Syrian ruling majority.

An al Qaeda-linked group has threatened to carry out bombings in Lebanon and attacks on Christians unless Beirut withdraws its army from around Nahr al-Bared.
.......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070526/wl_nm/lebanon_fighting_dc

oh, thats rich spin
"Lebanon; get out of Lebanon NOW ! "

and the Iranian puppets in the area;

Hezbollah to Lebanese army: Stay out of refugee camp
POSTED: 9:10 p.m. EDT, May 25, 2007


The leader of Hezbollah in Lebanon, Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah, has warned the Lebanese army not to enter the Palestinian refugee camp north of Tripoli where it has been confronting Islamic militants.

Nasrallah -- in a televised address to mark the seventh anniversary of Israel's withdrawal from Lebanon -- said that to enter the camp would be crossing a red line, and the Palestinians should not be touched.

....
snip

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/25/lebanon.nasrallah/index.html?section=cnn_topstories&eref=yahoo

I remember that this "social club" was supposed to disband when Israel left the country. That was the UN resolution deal......

AT least the Lebanese army is staying in the northern area of Lebanon. It really shouldn't upset the balance of power in the region
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3308105,00.html


I wonder if Hizbollahs masters could be persuaded to sell them out?


Pipeline to carry Iraqi crude to Iran

Azzaman, May 26, 2007



Iraq has accepted an Iranian offer to build a pipeline connecting its terminals and refineries to the prolific Iraqi oil fields in Basra.



Assem Jihad, Oil Ministry’s Information Officer said, the agreement was reached during a meeting between Oil Minister Hussain Shahristani and the Iranian ambassador in Baghdad.


snip

The government has said it would extend Iranian firms preferential treatment because many of them are still operating in southern Iraq despite the flight of other foreign companies.


snip

http://www.azzaman.com/english/index.asp?fname=news%5C2007-05-26%5Cdoha.htm

Now thats how you do "No BLOOD for OIL"