Man Gets 3 Years For Barroom Remark About Bush

[joeunderdog]

(St. Louis-AP) -- A federal appeals court has upheld the sentence for a man who had suggested that President Bush might be set ablaze.

Richard Humphreys appealed his three-year sentence, saying his comment was protected by free speech rights. He was convicted in 2002 of threatening to kill or harm the president.

The court found Humphreys suffers from bipolar disorder, and should serve his confinement in a federal medical center.

Humphreys says he got into a barroom discussion with a truck driver a day before Bush's March 2001 visit to Sioux Falls, South Dakota.

A bartender who overheard the conversation told police that Humphreys talked about a "burning Bush" and the possibility of someone setting Bush on fire.

http://www.rense.com/general46/3yr.htm

[BlueEyedSon]

1. Hmmmm.....

"Hopefully, medication over a significant period of years will result in his being able to live outside the prison confines, free of delusions and the type of behavior he exhibited here," the court ruled.

[7th_Sephiroth]

4. delusions?

i heard he just told a joke

[kutastha]

26. Creepy

Are the pharma companies making pills that make you become a Republican?

Wouldn't put it past them.

[SilasSoule]

2. Is everyone sure that he wasn't

referring to an Old Testament story involving Moses?






..

[denverbill]

3. Jebus. Freedom of speech my ass.

Now, if he had made some statement, some sort of declaration that actually threatened Bush, perhaps I could understand it. Or if it was PROVEN that he had made plans to assassinate him, fine, lock him up.

Christ if every freeper that threatened Clinton that way was jailed we'd have won every state in 2000.

[liberalhistorian]

5. I know, the double standard is

beyond infuriating, isn't it? But you just can't get these people to listen.

[Lorien]

6. Just what I was thinking as well

I can't count the number of times I've heard repugs grumbling about how they would like to murder Bill and Hilary in horrible and creative ways, yet have any of them been sent to prison for it?

[DulceDecorum]

13. John Derbyshire is still free

despite being one of the reasons why Chelsea Clinton retains Secret Service protection.

Chelsea is a Clinton. She bears the taint; and though not prosecutable in law, in custom and nature the taint cannot be ignored. All the great despotisms of the past — I'm not arguing for despotism as a principle, but they sure knew how to deal with potential trouble — recognized that the families of objectionable citizens were a continuing threat. In Stalin's penal code it was a crime to be the wife or child of an "enemy of the people". The Nazis used the same principle, which they called Sippenhaft, "clan liability". In Imperial China, enemies of the state were punished "to the ninth degree": that is, everyone in the offender's own generation would be killed, and everyone related via four generations up, to the great-great-grandparents, and four generations down, to the great-great-grandchildren, would also be killed. (This sounds complicated, but in practice what usually happened was that a battalion of soldiers was sent to the offender's home town, where they killed everyone they could find, on the principle neca eos omnes, deus suos agnoscet — "let God sort 'em out".)
http://www.nationalreview.com/derbyshire/derbyshire021501.shtml

[cosmicdot]

14. wasn't Amazon involved with promoting Derbyshire via paid ads

... but, they never pulled their ads, did they?

[clspector]

16. shouldn't this a******

be in jail? Derbyshire is a fucking loon and I can't believe any reputable mag would print this drivel. Oh, but we're talking about National Review.

[creativelcro]

29. As far as I remeber, the problem is that he drove

far away to the place where Bush was supposed to show up the day after, and made that statement... The guy is mentally ill. He believes he is a prophet and all that... There was another thread a while back, with details...

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[salinen]

9. "Bush set ablaze"

HAHAHAHAHAHA O wait, there's someone at the door.

[MostlyBlackCat2]

8. a more detailed account

http://www.theworldlink.com/articles/2003/12/23/news/news07.txt

there's a lot more to the story than rense.com reveals (as always)

still my take on it is the guy's a nutcase, but not a criminal.

[Rex]

10. Immoral of the story:

An illusionary match in the Bush will get you three in the clink.

[Military Brat]

11. Robertson can nuke Foggy Bottom but hands off the burning *

Paranoia strikes deep
Into your life it will creep ...

There's a lot more Vietnamization going on than just the quagmire in Iraq, isn't there?

[cosmicdot]

12. me thinks it's the bartender who has 'issues'

good thing we're hated for our freedoms - what would we justify invasions on?

"Hopefully, medication over a significant period of years will result in his being able to live outside the prison confines, free of delusions and the type of behavior he exhibited here," the court ruled.

why not a lobotomy Herr Dr. Mengele???


Dr. Frederickson (John Waters) uses aversion therapy to discourage Penny Pingleton (Lesley Ann Powers) from seeing her black boyfriend.


Notice the hypno-wheel on the bed.

[zbdent]

15. Remember: "Watch what you say - watch what you do"

oops, on edit, it's now "Watch what you do".

Gee, hadn't I heard that misspeak somewhere before?

Nah, guess the guy resigned to "spend more time with his family". Like getting married to some poor lobotomy who has been "trained" to accept his "input".

[2cents]

17. sounds soviet to me...

..is that why they call them "red" states?

[The Sushi Bandit]

18. He was talking about the "Burning Bush" in the bible!

this is way toooooo extreme!!

[mbperrin]

19. Wow! Watch that *Bush machine protect our freedoms!

woo-hoo!

[amber dog democrat]

20. NOBODY escapes the Spanish Inquisition

dam them heretics! And people say I am paranoid?
wooo , I already watch what I say as it is.

[Voltaire99]

21. See this week's This Modern World cartoon

...for a related theme:

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=16185

[stickdog]

22. Bush doesn't burn.

He's completely retardant.

[villager]

23. hell, Jesse Helms threatened Clinton...

...alluding to what might happen to him if he visited a military base. Grinning Repubs shrugged it all off, let him retain all Senate privileges, etc. Oh: And not a peep about it being "out of bounds" on AM hate-radio...

[Tuttle]

38. Good point!

Also, if this guy had made a threatening aside against Clinton, he'd be more likely to get nominated for a judgeship rather than the slammer!

Tut-tut

[banana republican]

24. Junior saw Moses

walking through the lobby of a hotel.

Dubya walked up to him and said hello
at which point Moses ignored him and kept walking

Again Dubya tried to say hello and Moses justkept walking

Finally Dubya grabs Moses and stops him and asks why he didn'tstop and talk to him.

Moses replied "The last time I talked to abush I spend 40 years in the wilderness....

[Media_Lies_Daily]

25. The Homeland Gestapo in action. Folks,...

...we're on a slippery slope from here on out, and it's all downhill.

[area51]

27. So now,

all the republinazis who openly pined away for John Wilkes Booth during the Clinton administration will be going to jail now, right? </sarcasm>

[sungkathak]

28. But Barbara Bush can threaten others with death

Celebrities' privilege

Death threat from Barbara Bush

Quote, "Barbara Bush:" you can criticize me, but don't criticize my children and don't criticize my daughters-in-law and don't criticize my husband, or you're dead."

http://www.infowars.com/print/misc/barb_threat.htm

[Sugarbleus]

36. Whoa!

Dead or in one of her prisons.

What a witch.... :puke:

[submerged99]

30. wingnuts used Clinton replicas for target practice

When Clinton was president I remember reading various accounts about militia members using cutouts of Bill and Hillary Clinton as targets on their shooting range. This was reported, offhandedly, in articles and in a book I read by Morris Dees called"gathering storm"(might be mistaken on the title)

So, why were none of these right wingers ever brought up on charges for firing weapons at Clinton Targets and making threats about what they wanted to do to him?

Can you imagine what would happen if a group of people got together and used Chimpy and his family for targer practice or made threats against Ashcroft in the same way they did Reno?

[nolabels]

31. * has gone beyond being a deity and omnipresent

He has become unspeakable

I regret to ad I only have one life to give to my country, but that's what happens when you enlist in regular service and never went AWOL

[IndianaGreen]

32. Like the Divine Roman Emperors, we must worship our Caesar

No one is greater than Emperor Bush.

Hail Caesar!

[Minstrel Boy]

33. heard the song "Burn Bush" by Sycorax?

You can here:
http://www.zebox.com/sycorax/music/#

Burn Bush - you get the matches and I'll get the gasoline
Burn Bush - and spread his ashes all across the Middle East
Burn Bush - strike a match and make his flesh sear.
Fight the war on terror - kill the one who's spreading fear.

[The Animator]

34. I always watch what I say...

... I always watch it come right out of my mouth at the spead of sound. It's not my fault people can't handle intelligent conversation. It's not my responsibility to sheild the ignorant from reality. So people over-react sometimes, some misunderstand, or take things out of context, so people get scared, or angry at what I have to say... Tough Shit.

After 9/11 damn near everybody and their mother had at least one flag on their car. Everybody I spoke to was so damned "Ra! Ra! America!" it made me nervous. No body wanted to hear me say that blind patriotism can be a very dangerous thing. It seemed nobody drew the parrallel between current surge in ultra-patriotism here, and the patriotism that gripped Germany in the 1920's and early 30's. Afganistan is merely Czechoslovakia revisited and Iraq is our Poland...

...So who wants to be France?


Well I've done my patriotic duty and spoken my mind. I'm certain my country will reward me for my steadfast resovle, and the ferrocity with which I defend my First Amendment right. There's a roomy three by three by three condo in Cuba with my name written all over it.

I want it known that I am in no way threatening the President, (I support Al Gore 100%) nor am I threatening the jackass that has illegally seized the reins of our power. If his minions are reading this, (and I'm sure, with those pesky civil liberties out of the way, that they are.) if I have offended you in any way... tough shit.

Bush if you ever end up with a copy of this in front of you, know this: I DO NOT WANT TO HARM YOU!... I just think your a jackass. I think you should be impeached and spend the rest of your days in a three, by three, by three condo in Cuba for your crimes against our country, and humanity as a whole. If I have offended you George W. Bush... TOUGH SHIT! If you want me, come and get me... jackass.

[Sugarbleus]

35. I feel your sentiments Animator..

It is sooooooooo hard for me to hold my tongue/keyboard fingers when I have to discuss **sh. Lucky for me, there isn't any thought police mechanism in place... YET.

I just want the little hitler and his party to go away.

:kick:
VOTE DEM IN 2004

[dusty64]

37. This is truly

frightening. Must be sure NEVER to speak ill of our "glorious leader" or make jokes about him in public.

[leesa]

39. So when does Robertson go to jail? When does the Plame treasonist

go to jail? When does the traitor Bush go to jail?