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Worst Username Ever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:34 AM
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Canadian 'poppy coin' culprit behind U.S. spy warning
Source: AP

(Remember the big panic attack regarding "spy coins" being planted on US contractors?)




WASHINGTON (AP) -- An odd-looking Canadian coin with a bright red flower was the culprit behind a U.S. Defense Department false espionage warning earlier this year about mysterious coin-like objects with radio frequency transmitters.

The harmless "poppy coin" was so unfamiliar to suspicious U.S. Army contractors traveling in Canada that they filed confidential espionage accounts about them.

The worried contractors described the coins as "anomalous" and "filled with something man-made that looked like nanotechnology," according to once-classified U.S. government reports and e-mails obtained by the AP.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/americas/05/07/canadian.coin.ap/index.html
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:43 AM
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1. What's Your Frequency, Canadian Coin?
Morons.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:44 AM
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2. LOL
"The worried contractors described the coins as "anomalous" and "filled with something man-made that looked like nanotechnology," according to once-classified U.S. government reports and e-mails obtained by the AP."

That's George Bush's America for you.
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:49 AM
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4. Lots of boobs are "anomalous" and "filled with something man-made"
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 11:48 AM
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3. "Anomalous" and "Filled with something man-made that looked like nanotechnology,"
Double Creme Specials from Dunkin' Donuts?

--p!
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:34 PM
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22. close, but wrong doughnut ;)
As the Toronto Star put it:
http://www.thestar.com/article/211492
Six of them would have bought him a large double-double at Tim Hortons, which distributed the special coins, and he would have been handed back something strange called a nickel.

Or he could have got a timbit.


http://www.timhortons.com/en/menu/menu_donuts.html

We prefer the holes to the doughnuts, up here. ;)

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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:30 PM
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5. From the article
"The supposed nanotechnology actually was a conventional protective coating the Royal Canadian Mint applied to prevent the poppy's red color from rubbing off. The mint produced nearly 30 million such quarters in 2004 commemorating Canada's 117,000 war dead."

You'd think if they queried *just a little bit* instead of being instantly paranoid, any Canadian could have told them about this.

Imagine... a country that honors their war dead.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 12:42 PM
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6. Glad to know it wasn't RFID.
Oh, the article never stated that, only that portions of the reports had been censored for security reasons.

Wikipedia refers to this:
http://www.rfid-weblog.com/50226711/us_government_considering_use_of_rfid.php

This prison-planet story seems to have been "debunked" as hoax:
http://www.prisonplanet.com/022904rfidtagsexplode.html

So, I guess the answer we are supposed to believe is that absolutely no spy-chips are in any of our paper or coin currencies.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:37 PM
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10. Here....you need this....I got you a box....you're gonna need it.
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:19 PM
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11. Even if that works in a wallet, it won't work at point of use.
At least I rather doubt a teller would take a foil wrapped bill, at least not without unwrapping it first.
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 02:53 PM
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12. I was talking about for making his big hats
Perhaps he could use this for personal protection in the manner in which you were speaking. He's gonna need a lot more Reynolds Wrap than I got him, though.



And for transportation, he can use...



And finally, for something to wear around town for the ultra paranoid antisocial in your life...



Now, you are free!

:P
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Trillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:59 PM
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14. That post goes rather off topic :) Gotta bring money into it....
In the top photo, the guy is attempting to live in a faraday cage, and not only protect the passive transmitting of how many coins or bills are in one's wallet: or where they came from (which atm machine from which account), or where they may go (which retailer).

If RFID is already in or is being considered for inclusion in physical money, all things that are potentially possible with e-currency become possible with paper money.

Perhaps you've never heard of "data mining"?

Anyway, I have no idea whether our money has RFID chips or not, but according to the psychological principal known as projection, it seems odd that U.S. government contractors would accuse other countries of the use of RFID chips in their money.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:40 AM
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21. Very odd. And very revealing imo
>>it seems odd that U.S. government contractors would accuse other countries of the use of RFID chips in their money.

Very odd. Classic schoolyard Rovian double play.
Have you ever seen UK paper money? Full of metal. they are not even trying to hide it. (Unlike others. I won't keep it in the house. Better safe than sorry.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:44 AM
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18. The only trouble with that is, that's Aluminum Foil!!!
You need Tin foil to stop the brain scanners. :silly:

If you haven seen this web site yet, you'll love it!



<http://zapatopi.net/afdb/>

Alternatives To Aluminum
The Aluminum/Tin Debate


In general, when people say "tin foil" they really mean aluminum foil. But what about tin (Sn)? Does it have the same anti-psychotronic properties as aluminum? Most experts agree that tin does have an effect but opinions are divided as to whether or not it is as good as aluminum. A small, but vocal, contingent even argues that tin is superior, but they are held by most to be the lunatic fringe of Foil Deflector Beanie science. I would advise people wishing to build a Deflector Beanie to stick with aluminum whenever possible since it is a proven technology.

I have received <1998-10-23> an email from a reader about tin, its relationship to Atlantian anti-psychotronics, and an international conspiracy to control its production. You will find it here along with links and other info about tin.


<http://zapatopi.net/afdb/alternatives.html#TIN>

Here's another good one: <http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/>

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 07:28 AM
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20. I for one have stopped using coins and paper money
Why take the risk?
Psyops used exploding donkey doo in WW2.they are capable of anything. I don't putting anything past this bunch of criminals. Poppies to commemorate the war dead! Oh yeah right. We are supposed to believe that.
Get off the coin grid before it's too late.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:12 PM
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7. I hope they reported all those Canadians who wear poppies, too.
I see them on TV constantly, so I'm assuming it's secret spy sign so that other spies will recognize them.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 12:39 PM
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23. damn
If somebody hands you one:



remember to take out the black spot in the middle before putting it on. Then your conversations won't be relayed to the receiver.

We're working on implanting the mike in the head of the pin ...

;)



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LeftistGorilla Donating Member (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:33 PM
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8. Paranoid...
We also had a coin with a pink ribbon in support of Breast Cancer survivors and research...
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 03:05 PM
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13. if we really were that advanced, we could have installed nano-mammogram machines
... in those pink ribbon quarters!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:26 AM
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17. In that picture, it looks like a stick-on patch.
Can't they just peal them off?
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skids Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:31 AM
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19. Not paranoid, just downright "loonie"!
:hide:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 01:34 PM
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9. In Flanders Fields
In Flanders Fields
By: Lieutenant Colonel John McCrae, MD (1872-1918)
Canadian Army

IN FLANDERS FIELDS the poppies blow
Between the crosses row on row,
That mark our place; and in the sky
The larks, still bravely singing, fly
Scarce heard amid the guns below.

We are the Dead. Short days ago
We lived, felt dawn, saw sunset glow,
Loved and were loved, and now we lie
In Flanders fields.

Take up our quarrel with the foe:
To you from failing hands we throw
The torch; be yours to hold it high.
If ye break faith with us who die
We shall not sleep, though poppies grow
In Flanders fields.
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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-07-07 09:14 PM
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15. This is so Maxwell Smart. Hilarious stuff!!
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 02:24 AM
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16. It just looks like a little cloth stick-on patch???
Edited on Tue May-08-07 02:46 AM by Up2Late
Can't they just peal them off?:shrug:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 01:25 PM
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24. They don't come off easily at all, actually
The first time they tried putting colored emblems and whatnot on the coins, they scraped/washed/etc off pretty easily. It can still happen with these ones, but it's definitely not just like a sticker or something. You have to put some effort into it to get the poppy off.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 01:34 PM
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25. If they thought the coins were counterintelligence, why didn't they:
a) turn them in to be examined

b) SPEND THEM???

:crazy:
rocknation
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CraftyGal Donating Member (602 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 01:43 PM
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26. I can't believe it.
When TrogL told me about it last night, I just shook my head. On our nickels, quarters and the odd tome the loonie we celebrate or commemorate a lot of different things. The poppy quarter was the first one to be color.

Gawd, conspiracy nut cases!:silly: :shrug:

Crafty
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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 01:52 PM
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27. To save us any further embarrassment, I suggest...
we not let these trembling fraidy-cats visit any other countries where they might catch fright at the local customs and issue a report that might start a war or worse, a global laughing-fit at America's expense.
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