(Time) Magazine's list of 100 most influential doesn't include Bush

[truthpusher]

Source: USA Today




Time just released its annual list of "The Most Influential People in the World."

George Clooney made the list. So did Osama bin Laden and Warren Buffett.

Who's missing? President Bush.

Leaders & Revolutionaries

• King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia
• Peter Akinola, archbishiop, Nigeria
• Mohamed Omar Hassan Ahmed al-Bashir, president, Sudan
• Osama bin Laden
• Michael Bloomberg, mayor, New York City
• Raul Castro, acting president, Cuba
• Hillary Clinton, U.S. senator from New York
• Queen Elizabeth II, United Kingdom
• Sonia Gandhi, chair, Indian National Congress Party
• Hu Jintao, president, China
• Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Supreme Leader, Iran
• Liu Qi, chief, Beijing Olympic Committee
• Tzipi Livni, foreign minister, Israel
• Angela Merkel, chancellor, Germany
• Barack Obama, U.S. senator from Illinois
• Nancy Pelosi, speaker, U.S. House of Representatives
• David Petraeus, commanding general, U.S. Army
• Pope Benedict XVI
• Condoleezza Rice, U.S. secretary of state
• John Roberts, chief justice, U.S. Supreme Court
• Arnold Schwarzenegger, governor, California





Read more: http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/05/magazines_list_.html?csp=34

[lse7581011]

1. SLAM! n/t

[sinkingfeeling]

2. Great because he's not !!!

[corkhead]

21. Oh, I would argue that he, or at least his organ grinder should be, much like Attila the Hun

would have been in his day. I don't think you have to be good to be influential.

[Pacifist Patriot]

25. I agree. Influence in and of itself is neutral...

It is what that influence is used to accomplish that determines good or evil. I would say Bush Co. is HIGHLY influential...but evilly so.

[sinkingfeeling]

36. I agree that the organ grinder could be a very influential person, but not the person, G.W. Bush!

[flaminbats]

61. I disagree...

I think Bush only listens to the advice of the "Republican elders".

Bush views himself as part of a fellowship, appointed to support the policies produced by Cheney along with other leaders of the GOP and be the spokesperson for that leadership. but Bush isn't the leader, he is only the loyal puppet who never questions the policies or those who support them.

King Abdullah, Saudi Arabia
Tzipi Livni, foreign minister, Israel
David Petraeus, commanding general, U.S. Army
Condoleezza Rice, U.S. secretary of state

since the decline of Cheney's health, the leaders above determine the foreign policy of Bush. Bush doesn't view himself as the commander in chief, but the private in chief who follows the orders of his advisers and campaign contributors. If he made the decisions, or thought about the impact these policies had on our future..I think he would be one of the most influential leaders of the world. but he only plays the organ, but doesn't write the music or even decide what to play on the organ.

[THUNDER HANDS]

3. well

if Bush could read, I'm sure he'd be disappointed.

[closeupready]

10. Duh, I think that's why they have pictures with the article.

:eyes:

:D

[Me.]

4. This Is Interesting

Heroes & Pioneers
• Maher Arar, rendition survivor

[Vidar]

5. The mad marionette doesn't make the list.

[LibDemAlways]

6. What's interesting to me is the cover shot, clearly

designed to get people to pick this up at the newsstand on a whim. Obama is very prominently featured. Gore and Pelosi on there too.

The only "r" I see is Bloomberg. If they included chimp on the list, they'd almost certainly have to stick his face on the cover....which would have negatively impacted sales.

Leaving chimp off the list - and cover - was a huge and deliberate smackdown. Good.

[goclark]

71. And Obama is the focal point in the photo

Time wants to sell magazines so they must know the face that will work. :bounce:

[RT_Fanatic]

7. Top 100?

He couldn't make the top 9 BILLION!
:rofl:

[RT_Fanatic]

8. Top 100?

He couldn't make the top 9 BILLION!
:rofl:

[Ian David]

9. Are Stephen Colbert, Keith Olbermann and Jon Stewart on the list? n/t

[PegDAC]

40. No.

I was hoping, though. Brian Williams is, though,

[Ian David]

44. You think Time Magazine will be dead to him, or just on notice? n/t

[Initech]

43. Sadly, Tyra Banks and Oprah are on the list.

[Rob H.]

11. Cheney's not on the list, either

Not really a surprise, though. Seems like his main function lately is to occasionally emerge from his undisclosed location to make fanciful claims on FoxNews about how well things are going in Iraq, anyway.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. Putting Elizabeth II on the list seems a bit strange

Yes, she has some influence, and she's going to outlast Tony Blair; but Gordon Brown is about to become British PM, and undoubtedly has more influence. Whoever wins of Royal and Sarkozy will have more influence too - I suppose you could say that it's too dependent on the imminent outcome to say (but all the polls have put Sarkozy ahead).

[LeftishBrit]

33. That's what I thought!

She is an important figurehead; but she is not 'influential' in the usual sense. As someone once said, royalty these days are highly-paid models for postage stamps.

[edbermac]

13. Wrong! He is the MOST INFLUENTIAL person in the world!

The biggest FUCK-UP around! After all wasn't Hitler named Time's 1938 Man Of The Year?

[democrat2thecore]

14. Silly

The list is for those who are positively influential OR negatively influential (Osama's on the list). He is definitely a major negative influential person. Just witness the veto. Publicity stunt for TIME - that's all. It's got people talking and that's all they wanted.

[wake.up.america]

29. "Time" is out to lunch. I get the magazine for next to nothing. Only reason I read it,

[Psephos]

66. self-delete (wrong subthread)

[CentralEuropeanDude]

15. Where is Putin?

oil+gas+pipelines+weapons+election+polonium isn't that enough?

[Dulcinea]

16. Boy George doesn't influence anything.

He just does what he's told. He's an empty suit. But, I'm not surprised to see Condi on the list; she's the most palatable of the whole bunch, to a certain segment of the population.

[Ferret Annica]

26. heehee, shame on you;

Boy George is a fairly competent performer. The CHimp at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue can't even pass muster as an organ grinder monkey. He deserves better then to have his good name tied in with this war criminal. ;-)

[StarryNite]

52. Yeah!

He was good in The Wedding Singer too!

[LeftishBrit]

35. In that case..

why didn't they list Puppetmaster Cheney?

[Decruiter]

58. Or The Architect?

[EstimatedProphet]

17. But of course, scumbucket Rice made the list

[sneakythomas]

18. I lost interest about forty years ago

When Time wrote up 25 women in place of their Person of the Year (I think it was still man of the year back then).

[Marnieworld]

19. oooohhhh burn

unfortunately they are wrong. He doesn't deserve the power but he influences everyone. How many people will die in Iraq this year? The cost of gas? The Gulf Coast being completely forgotten? How many bills will he veto? How many subpoenas will they fight? How much money will be stolen from our treasury? Will they out another covert agent?

He influences tragically and therefore should be removed.

[Initech]

20. Osama made the list ahead of Bush? Oh snap!

:rofl:

[bdamomma]

39. george is probably saying I thought I was greatest terrorist!!

:puke:

[Initech]

42. He probably is!

[Vinca]

22. Actually, he should be #1 on the list.

I can't think of anyone who's had a greater impact on the world. Osama pales by comparison in the body count.

[Pacifist Patriot]

24. I know Bush has certainly influenced me greatly.

I've never been more involved in politics in my life.

[Pacifist Patriot]

23. Who else thinks a dead guy made the list while Bush didn't?

I'm not convinced OBL is still alive. Too much intimate experience with kidney disease to think he's still around five and a half years after 9/11. Imagine being in the top 100 and not even being alive.

[LostinVA]

68. I also think he's probably dead

[fryguy]

27. how many current US presidents have been left off the list in past years?

just wondering....

[rcdean]

28. In the true sense of the word "Influential" this is absolutely correct.

Virtually nobody in the world buys that Bush knows what he's talking about any more. Chainknee either.

[NewJeffCT]

30. Ha, George Clooney is on the list!

take that Republics!

[JoFerret]

47. Who is George Clooney?

At least I have heard of GWBush and without doubt he has been influential. Unfortunately.

[NewJeffCT]

48. Clooney...

George Clooney is a Hollywood actor who is a handsome, articulate and intelligent liberal. There has been talk of him running for office in the future.

Granted, Bush should be #1 on the list, just like how Hitler should have been #1 back in 1939 or 1940.

[thereismore]

31. Wasn't he* Man of the year once upon a time? nt

[Sequoia]

32. He sure was. TIME should do another with big ole X across the cover.

MAN OF THE YEAR....NOT!

[Decruiter]

57. X out like CNN did with Cheney

[Laurab]

59. Yes, he was - that was when I cancelled my subscription

I wrote to tell them why, and they wrote back that the "Man of the Year" is the person who has influenced the world the most, for good or for evil, and mentioned that Hitler and Stalin had both been cover boys at one time. It was a nice explanation, but not enough to get me to renew my subscription!

[LeftishBrit]

34. Bush should have been there as 'influential'

Influential for harm!

Similarly Putin; a very nasty man, but you can't deny that he's influential.

Surprising that Mayor Bloomberg is there when many leaders of countries are not. Perhaps Blair and Chirac are omitted because they're on their way out; but what about Michele Bachelet; Lula; Hugo Chavez (influential, whatever one thinks of him), Ahmadinejad (nasty but influential!); Mugabe (treble ditto!!!); even Prodi - possibly not that influential in himself, but he did, at least for the time being, end the disgusting career of Berlusconi.

And many others!

[bdamomma]

37. oh wow, Pelosi is on the list, but bushie isn't too bad bushie

Gore is on the cover also, of course he is influential!!!!!

[geardaddy]

38. I hate *, but he should have been on the list.

Along with Deadeye Dick.

[bmbmd]

41. Well he is unable to influence either friend or foe-

but he can kill your ass dead.

[KamaAina]

45. Borat is on the list, and he's not!!!!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[KamaAina]

46. It says "100 Most Influential *People* in The World"

sorry, no chimps allowed.

See, no Bonzo, either. :P

[tabasco]

49. This reflects the loss of the USA's influence worldwide.

Bush has pushed us so far into debt that we wield far less economic influence.

Bush's war for corporate profits in Iraq has greatly decreased our military effectiveness as well.

Overall, Bush has greatly damaged our country's standing in the world community and done nothing good for the welfare of the American People, other than the corporate robber barons themselves.

[Bicoastal]

50. ELIZABETH EDWARDS is on the list!

Congrats, Liz! You beat out W!

[Raine]

51. WTF he belongs on that list

becasue unfortunately is probably the most influential person in the World. It's just another way they try to absolve him of responsibility for the mess he has made! :mad:

[brentspeak]

53. I agree. It doesn't make any sense why he isn't number one or two, let alone on the list, at all

"Influential" isn't necessarily a positive thing. But Bush is so influential (in a negative way), the whole country -- and much of the world -- has to adapt.

[LynneSin]

54. Well it wasn't the list of the worlds 100 biggest dumbasses was it

He'd get #1 on that one

[superconnected]

55. hahahaha! it does include obama and pelosi

and unfortunately condosleeza.

Bush can chain-ey aren't there though.

[cliss]

56. Oh, they should include him all right.

BUSH has been incredibly influential....

For Me.

He's influenced me to join the DU, fight for our rights, do EVERYTHING the opposite of this Clown.
Yeah, he's influential. Probably the most influential person on the Planet.

Just not what HE wanted.

[fujiyama]

60. This was likely

a purposeful slight made to him - to show his diminished influence on the American political landscape. Of course Bush is still influential in real terms, but no one cares at this point what he has to say. Bush is lame and irrelevant. He has credibility with few people.

Hey this from a magazine that made him "Person of the Year" twice...

[rocktivity]

62. Bush is the OPPOSITE of influential

what he does has more to do with repelling people.

:headbang:
rocknation

[Up2Late]

63. Did anyone else notice the Time didn't even have the GUTS to print an actual Top 100 LIST this year?

Maybe I'm just not finding the right link to "TIME MAGAZINES TOP 100 Most Influential People in the World LIST," but it looks like they totally wimped out even on this and didn't give an actual LIST!

Here's the main link:

<http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100>

But I don't see an actual LIST of 100 Names BY TIME MAGAZINE! The broke it down into 5 categories instead,

* ARTISTS & ENTERTAINERS
* LEADERS & REVOLUTIONARIES
* HEROES & PIONEERS
* SCIENTISTS & THINKERS
* BUILDERS & TITANS

...probably to keep from embarrassing "the president." Or has this always been a Reader Poll?

Then they added to the copout by passing the buck to the readers at these links:

<http://time-blog.com/talkback/2007/time100.php>


TALK BACK
Who's at the top of your list?

With so many different fields and individuals to choose from, we want to know which one of them matches your pick. Give us your thoughts on our list

Btw, lots of really stupid RW comments at this link like this one (I kid you not, I did NOT at the Quote marks to this one):

Posted by John in Liberal Connecticut
W

Say the words with me 'President' Bush. Your list is a joke, you exclude President Bush but you include Condolezza Rice and John Roberts. Both appointed by President Bush. I suppose Time doesn't have an anti President Bush agenda? <http://time-blog.com/talkback/2007/time100.php>

Or this one:


TIME 100 Poll
Your Results

Take a look at the people who ended up at the top of the list according to your votes

<http://www.time.com/time/specials/2007/time100walkup/article/0,28804,1611030_1612457,00.html>

I can't wait to hear what Stephen Colbert says about coming in 2nd after RAIN (the Korean "King of Pop" music)!:evilgrin:

[RockLacrosse20]

64. to be honest, he should be on there

he should be on there because he influences a large amount of hate for the US throughout the world, and especially in Iraq, where the turmoil is very high, which will affect the US and the world for decades to come

[flaminbats]

65. I don't think Bush made that decision..

if Dick Cheney or Donald Rumsfeld had told Bush not to invade Iraq, he wouldn't have. The same is true on taxcuts..if Dennis Hastert or ROB PORTMAN had suggested taxcuts wouldn't stimulate the economy, we would probably have budget surpluses today! If STEPHEN JOHNSON had suggested we play an active part to slow down global warming, Bush would be making that a top priority.

Bush has shown very little leadership and influence over the policies of his administration and the Republican Party. the lack of any coherent strategy or direction has effected our planet the most, while President Bush's vision and values have not.

[Psephos]

67. Okaaaaayyyyyy

Things must be worse at Time than I realized for them to green-light a silly publicity stunt. Does nothing for their reputation as a news organization, that's for sure.

Bush not an influence as big as Peter Akinola the archbishiop of Nigeria? Not as big as Liu Qi, chief of the Beijing Olympic Committee? Not as big as (careful, don't spray your milk out through your nose) JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE?

Tell that to the rest of the world.

[pettypace]

69. W is becoming irrelevant

to borrow the WH's description of one James Carter.

And speaking of Mr bin Laden - he is the modern day bogeyman...what evidence is there of his existence since the interview he had with CNN in '96? Cannot believe how the aura of intrigue surrounding a person who exists only in video-tape form is so prevalent.

[lpbk2713]

70. Nor did OxyRush Limbaugh make the list.

Alas, he's only influential among dittohead sheepies.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Looks like their 15 minutes is up.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: