Moscow Dorms Shut Before Hitler Birthday

[oberliner]

Source: ABC News (AP)

MOSCOW Apr 19, 2007 (AP)— A leading Moscow university ordered its foreign students on Thursday to remain in their dormitories for the next three days because of fears of ethnic violence before Adolf Hitler's birthday, students said.

Hundreds of students at the prestigious Sechenov Moscow Medical Academy were told to stock up on food and warned they would not be let out of the dormitories through Saturday in an attempt to protect them amid a marked rise in hate crimes.

Ethnically motivated violence tends to increase in the days leading up to and after Hitler's birthday on April 20, when some members of ultra-nationalist organizations shout slogans and stage attacks on dark-skinned foreign and other non-Slavic-looking people.

The measure at Sechenov Moscow Medical Academy did not appear to be exclusive. Other universities and organizations have in the past also warned foreigners of possible violence ahead of Hitler's birthday. In Moscow, authorities have closed down some outdoor markets over the last couple of years where many traders are foreigners.


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[rockymountaindem]

1. "White pride" and racial violence is everywhere, but

for any Russian to idolize Hitler and the Nazis, who thought the absolute worst about the Slavic people and wreaked untold havoc upon them, is just too fucked up for me to put into words.

[barb162]

4. I think this type of thing happens in some cultures

and has nothing to do with "white." Saudi Arabia comes to mind with their enclaves of foreigners who must live separately from the Saudis. There was a bombing of that enclave a few years ago.

[rockymountaindem]

10. That's not my point

I don't know why the Russians would look up to a Nazi... much less the founder of Nazism.

[frankieT]

14. you're totally right

Russia suffered terribly from nazism (20-30 millions dead). The bloodiest battles of WW2 took place on the eastern front between Germany & Russia, nazis were incredibly violent there with mass killings of civilians (Einzatsgruppen). As bolsheviks, jews, slavic ubermensch, russians concentrated all the hatred of nazis. And most of russians (or former citizens of USSR) have in their families victims or combatants of WW2.

imho, this russian skinhead movement is a combination of ordinary russian violence (it's a cliché but the "russian soul" & the vodka lead easily to brutal fights) and extremist rejection of communist heritage. These skinheads are often working class children who lost dignity after USSR collapse : during the 90's, they saw their parents & grand-parents heroes of WW2/communism/work losing everything and Russia being humiliated on the international scene.

[Javaman]

16. Just finished reading a great book on Stalingrad...

in the early months of the invasion, many people in eastern Russia despised stalin. Mostly because of the way he starved them out during the years 1935-39. Millions died. One estimate has it at 10-20 million. There was no love loss when the nazi's invaded. Many people in the Ukraine welcomed the invasion and joined the German army. there were quite a few russian divisions in the german push. Upon hearing this, when stalin was finally able to counter attack in 1944, he ordered that all captured russians in german uniform to be shot.

This also went hand in hand with any one retreating was to be shot as well as any liberated prisoners of war.

What is interesting, as everyone knows, history is written by the winners.

It's only now coming to light (the last 15 to 20 years) of how much of a bastard stalin was.

hitler concentrated on the jewish population and outcasts of society for death. Where as stalin didn't make that distinction. He hated everyone.

Please don't take this post as a defense of hitler in the least. I'm just making the point that stalin was no angle himself.

[barb162]

19. Obviously the racial superiority aspect of Hitler's rants

resonates with certain people, despite the fact Hitler was responsible for killing a lot of Russians. But the same thing happens here and many other places.

[The Stranger]

18. I think it is safe to say that it has everything to do with "white."

Aryanism, Nazism, racial supremacy and World War II -- you know, those things.

[Henny Penny]

13. Lets face it... anyone who idolizes Hitler is going to be

pretty fucked up.

Why do they do it?? I think it is the attraction of the forbidden.

[Redstone]

2. Russia may be (besides Iraq) the only country in the world that's more violent than the USA.

Redstone

[Ignacio Upton]

3. A good reason NOT to build a Bering Straight tunnel

Can you image all of the shit that can be smuggled through it?

[Redstone]

6. A Bering Strait tunnel? I'd not heard of that. I'd really like a link, if you could.

Not that I doubt you. I recently found out that, in the 1970s, there was serious consideration being given to a 17-mile-long bridge frome the town where I live in Connecticut, across Long Island Sound, to Long Island.

Imagine driving on THAT during a Northeaster like the one we just had.

Redstone

[Ignacio Upton]

8. Here:

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=a479c61d-5ec1-480c-b169-78cc456a7612&k=69845

If that thing gets built, while it will become possible to drive to every continent except Australia and Antartica, I can only imagine how many illegal drugs, arms, and nuclear material will go undetected.

Just curious...what CT town do you live in? I can't imagine such a bridge EVER being built in a town like Greenwich, Stamford or Darien.

[Redstone]

9. Old Saybrook, at the mouth of the Connecticut River. Imagine the ecological carnage.

The Connecticut River Estuary is a fragile, though living and breathing organism of salt marshes and tidal wetlands, and one for which I've dedicated a significant portion of my life. As I said, imagine the carnage. But, of course, did the Connecticut Department of Environmental Protection move to protect the environment in this case? Of course, they did NOT. A tradition that continues to this day.

And thanks for the link; I'm quite curious as to how the Russians propose to be able to build the infrastructure for such a tunnel, when the Trans-Siberian Railroad can scarce complete a trip without hideous delays...

Redstone

[Retrograde]

17. How about a railroad?

Back in 1873, William Gilpin, governor of Colorado, aka the state's biggest windbag, proposed a railroad across the Bering Strait. Not quite as far-fetched as making Denver the center of steamboat traffic for the Rockies, but close.

Seriously, given the decrease in the polar ice cap, who knows what may be possible in the near future? I'd go for regular ferry service instead of a bridge or tunnel, though.

[Irreverend IX]

5. Russians celebrating Hitler's birthday?

How could anyone be so profoundly ignorant of history? The Nazis killed more Russians than they did Jews.

[Redstone]

7. They're Russians. For various reasons, they don't THINK like we Americans do.

So don't try to figure it out. Because nobody can.

Redstone

[CGowen]

15. I don't think lumping all Russians in is a good idea

Ambassador Burns addressed MGIMO on FDR. On February 8, 2007 Ambassador Burns spoke to 200 participants, including members of the Presidential Administration, the State Duma, and the Federation Council, at a conference marking the 125th birthday of U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt. The conference, organized by MGIMO, the University of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, was titled "The New Deal's Lessons for Modern Russia and Contemporary World." The Ambassador noted FDR's conviction that "The greatness of America is grounded in principles and institutions, not in any single personality" and stressed the importance of institutional reform for long-term development.


http://usembassy.ru/embassy/statement.php?record_id=85
http://usembassy.ru/

[Blue_Tires]

11. that's what i thought of as well

some of these assclowns need to have a chat with their grandparents and learn some history

[JVS]

12. their grandparents are dead or were not in the war

life expectancy went down to 59 in the post-soviet era