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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:21 PM
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McCain: Dems have politicized Iraq
Source: Des Moines Register

McCain: Dems have politicized Iraq

BY JASON CLAYWORTH
REGISTER STAFF WRITER

April 14, 2007

Marshalltown, Ia. — Republican presidential candidate John McCain continued his effort Saturday to defend the United States’ role in Iraq and told a crowd in Marshalltown that terrorists “will follow us home” if troops are pulled out prematurely.

The statement followed similar comments the Arizona senator made earlier this week on a campaign stop in Virginia.

McCain blasted Democrats on Saturday for turning the war into a political issue.
“What they have failed to understand: presidents don’t lose wars, political parties don’t lose wars, nations lose wars,” he said to a about 250 people at Iowa Valley Community College.

McCain, who skipped Iowa’s caucuses in his run for president in 2000 has reached out to the state’s Republicans partially through his support for the war. While most Americans no longer support war efforts, the majority of Republicans still agree with the decision to invade Iraq, according to a CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll last month.




Read more: http://www.dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070414/NEWS/70414009/1001
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:23 PM
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1. McCain, TIME has policized Iraq
why don't you see how many other 4 year old wars were still passively accepted
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:25 PM
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2. What happened to that recent poll out of Iowa that showed that
over half of likely Repub primary voters in Iowa supported a timetable for withdrawal?
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Montauk6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:25 PM
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3. yawwwwwwwwwn, NEXT!
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:26 PM
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4. Presidents are responsible for their nations losing wars.
If Bush can take(premature) credit for winning the damn thing, he HAS to take credit for losing it as well.



And considering how much McCain and his allies have used 9/11 and Iraq in election and political speeches, they do not have THE RIGHT to say that Democrats have politicized the war!

Damn hypocrites, all of them!
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:28 PM
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5. war is the ultimate political act
claiming "politicization" of an act of war is evading responsibility
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 03:22 AM
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25. Gentlemen, let's have no fighting in the war room
Dr. Strangelove.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:51 PM
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35. and the ultimate FAILURE of political life...
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Spinzonner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:28 PM
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6. Umm, John, who STARTS wars ?

and in particular this one ?
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ribrepin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:30 PM
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7. Whatever, John....
I not listening to you guys anymore.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:31 PM
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8. It is time for the men with the
white wraparound jackets to come for John McCain. I really think he has truly lost his mind. He is beginning to sound like Capt. Queeg in The Caine Mutiny.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:31 PM
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9. Look into a mirror you old fart its you that's made this political
For a former POW he just don't get it.
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:32 PM
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10. Look who's talking. (nt)
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:35 PM
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11. Exactly how hard are McCain's arteries?
Because there's a clear lack of blood flow to the brain.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:40 PM
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12. Ever Wonder if its PTSD
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:45 PM
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21. Nah.
Either he's developing senile dementia or he's channeling Strom Thurmond.
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Monkeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 12:37 AM
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24. Bingo
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:43 PM
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13. Just WTF was McCain doing when he was taking his little stroll recently?




Holy shit. That takes a lot of nerve to make a statement like that so soon after the publicity seeking stunt he just pulled a few days ago.





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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 03:21 AM
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38. Yeah but
it's okay for "them" to use it for political gain. The idiot just doesn't realize he is hurting his chances by doing so because most Americans want us out.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:44 PM
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14. "presidents don’t lose wars, political parties don’t lose wars, nations lose wars"
bwhahhaahahhahhahahaaaaaa


is blaming others the only thing they can do?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:46 PM
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15. What McCainiac doesn't seem to grasp is that once the public
starts to sour on war, especially when it questions the very motives for fighting it, the fat lady is getting ready to sing. There is no way he is singlehandedly going to turn public sentiment around on this. Got to admire him for sheer obstinance--he won't let go of this bone for nuthin'.
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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 12:03 PM
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33. This tactic doesn't work anymore. The GOP has lost the public trust

Remember when the Democrats lost the public trust? And then they had to explain everything they did based on the GOP's story line and stereotyped image of Democrats??? Some democrats still are trying to do it.

Anyway this sort of bullshit just doesn't cut it with the public anymore. They are honest to see some real dialogue and know that the GOP has politicized the war by shutting out any suggestions and demonizing anyone who questions their strategy, even if it's in a spirit of bipartisanship.
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:55 PM
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16. he's also the fool that thinks walking in a security sheath implies
that a region is safe.

will the repug lies ever stop?
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BlueStater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:57 PM
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17. McCain is sounding more and more like our idiot asshole of a "president"
I can't even tell the difference between the two of them anymore.
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chknltl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 10:59 PM
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18.  Interesting... I wonder how he feels about the book:
"My Pet Goat" :popcorn:
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:02 PM
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19. The really sad thing about this is that (IMHO)
McCain knows better. But, he is so desperate for the far right wing's support, he'll do and say anything he thinks he needs to say. McCain has zero chance of getting out of the GOP primaries and on the ticket. The RW hates McCain more than we hate Bush.
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badgervan Donating Member (745 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:03 PM
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20. Hey, Flipper John:
Our dickwad-in-chief is solely responsible for starting, totally screwing up, and losing this illegal occupation. No ifs, ands or buts about it. The buck stops at the desk of the dickwad. No way are dems going to let them frame this one.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 11:51 PM
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22. 12% McLame mis speaks once more....his brain has been frazzled beyond repair..prolly due to Bushitis
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Drum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 12:12 AM
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23. ...and Republicans have decimated Iraq. nt
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clixtox Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:22 AM
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26. The Bottom Line...

is that the so called "War in Iraq" is a blatant WAR CRIME! Any effort to continue, prolong, finance or escalate the debacle is also a WAR CRIME! That is all you need to know but for some reason we do not hear, or read, this basic truth anywhere near enough. Calling the "War in Iraq" "illegal" only skims the tragic reality of the crimes being committed in OUR NAMES! These traitors must know that we have irretrievably lost this "War in Iraq" in absolutely every way that it could possibly be lost. We have lost economically, politically, morally, militarily and we have also lost the respect of every other country besides the "Coalition of the Billing". Even those few "allies" that are still sharing the Iraqi Kool-Aid with the USA probably loath us and the position we have backed them into.

WAR CRIMES!

WAR CRIMES!

WAR CRIMES!

Most of our elected Federal Senators and Representatives are complicit in abetting the WAR CRIMES committed in OUR NAMES everyday in Iraq and who knows where else. Aren't you at least a little embarrassed, I certainly am...

These are WAR CRIMES, get it? WAR CRIMES perpetrated in your name, my name, our neighbor's names. While the Republicans deserve the LION"S SHARE of any blame, way too many of our Democratic politicians might as well be Republicans, they don't usually represent anybody but their corporate bosses in their zeal to stay electable and well funded. So Sad...
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 07:23 AM
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27. McCain should put this Photoshop I created up on his
campaign site, and come CLEAN :)

Feel free to pass it around, anything to take the basket case off the trail..

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 08:21 AM
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28. ROTFLMAO!!!
Now that's true irony!
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youngdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 08:34 AM
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29. Fuck you Johnny. Just because one party speaks the truth and the other lies
doesn't mean that the truth has been politicized. It means the lie has.

Truth is just truth. The motivation of the lie is political.

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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 08:53 AM
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30. Jest throwin red meat to the Neanderthals, hopin they'll pony up some cash

NATION
McCain funding trails GOP rivals by half

By Mike Dorning
Washington Bureau
Published April 15, 2007

WASHINGTON -- Presidential candidate John McCain had built up a campaign war chest less than half the size of his main Republican primary rivals three months into the year, leaving his campaign at a financial disadvantage even as he has faltered in the polls. ~snip~

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-0704140399apr15,1,7238714.story?coll=chi-news-hed

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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:50 AM
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31. That terrorists “will follow us home” is a crock
When the US is finally forced out of Iraq, the Iraqi insurgency will stay and fight for power in Iraq. They have no ambitions outside Iraq.

As for the international al Qaeda brigades now in Iraq, when the US leaves there, some will return victorious to their own countries to promote jihad against their pro-US arab leaders (the "Near Satan"), while others will go to fight against the US (the "Great Satan") in Afghanistan and elsewhere in the Muslim world.

But having succeeded in drawing the US into wars on their turf (a strategy that Osama wrote about years before the Iraq war) the thing al Qaeda is least likely to do is to try to pursue jihad in the US, where they have no military or operational advantage.

Too bad no members of the US media, or high-profile Democrats for that matter, seem have the balls, or the background knowledge about al Qaeda, needed to debunk the "follow us home" nonsense. In fact, it doesn't doesn't take a lot of research to understand the low-to-no probability of that prediction coming true.

- B
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Zorra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:02 AM
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32. Oh, where are those twicky, wascally, WMD wabbits, Senator Fudd?
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 11:03 AM by Zorra
You know, those wascals we supposedly invaded Iraq to find?

(psssst! i know where they are. They are delusions hidden in the sociopathic fascist minds of lying, greedy, corrupt republican leaders!)

If you find these twicky WMD, and eradicate them, America wins, and you won't have to worry about any tewewists following you home anymore.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 09:50 PM
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34. Hahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahaha!
That was good!
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KarmaKaize Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 10:45 PM
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36. From the Straight Talk Express to the BIG LIE MESS
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 10:45 PM by KarmaKaize
This creep used to appear as though he had some character - was the pussy whipping he got from the AWOL cokehead so severe that he lost any integrity or decency ?
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UNCLE_Rico Donating Member (124 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 12:52 AM
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37. Prepare the Wayback Machine, Sherman ... ALL the way back to ... 2004 ...
Was it Mr. Rove who encouraged the GOP to 'Run on The Iraq War' in the 2004 elections?

I'm pretty sure it was him. If not, it was some other prominent fascist, err, Repubelickin'.

If that ain't 'politicizing the War On Iraq' I don't know WTF IS?!?
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 04:52 AM
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39. McCain is a disgusting old toady.
n/t
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 05:35 AM
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40. this man is getting to be as supid as Cheney--and VERY irritating!
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