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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:28 AM
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Three Yale students accused of burning US flag
Source: Associated Press

Three Yale students accused of burning US flag
NEW HAVEN, CT (AP) - Three Yale University students have been arrested on charges of setting fire to an American flag hanging outside a home.

Police say the students include a US citizen born in Pakistan who worked as an informal translator for US forces during the invasion of Afghanistan. He later published a memoir entitled "Come Back to Afghanistan" based on his experiences.

The students were arrested Tuesday on charges ranging from reckless endangerment to arson.



Read more: http://www.wistv.com/global/story.asp?s=6324356
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:31 AM
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1. They destroyed private property
And it does not matter if that property is a US flag or a grand piano.

Flag burning may be constitutional free speech, but you can't burn someone else's flag without their permission.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:33 AM
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3. Yeah, that's kinda dumb, for being Yalies...
You can buy a made-in-China US flag for five bucks.

Hope it was worth it.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:33 AM
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4. If the flag is on someone else's t-shirt that says, "Burn THIS!" does that count as permission? n/t
Edited on Wed Apr-04-07 09:34 AM by IanDB1
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:32 AM
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2. If you're gonna burn a flag, it has to be YOUR flag, that you paid for yourself. Geesh! n/t
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:36 AM
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5. that is one really garbled narrative.
Whose flag was it? Some stranger at random? What made the cops think the students did it, if all they saw as a burning flag? If the students were trying to find their way home, were they in the wrong neighborhood? Had they just moved into the neighborhood and got confused? Or were they asking for directions out of that neighborhood? It's implied the students lived in the area, because the cops went back to see if they had found their way home, but if that is so, why were they asking directions? Did the cops figure it was them just because one of them was Pakistani-American?

This article is worthless.
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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 09:50 AM
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6. here's another one
Three Yale students charged with burning American flag
April 4, 2007

NEW HAVEN, Conn. --Three Yale University students have been arrested on charges of setting fire to an American flag hanging from the porch of a Chapel Street home.

The three were arrested early Tuesday after police on patrol spotted the burning flag and tore it from pole where it was mounted to the house, police said.

Said Hyder Akbar, 23, Nikolaos Angelopoulos, 19, and Farhad Anklesaria, also 19, were arrested on charges ranging from reckless endangerment to arson.

Angelopoulos and Anklesaria, who are two freshmen are both foreign citizens. Anklesaria is British and Angelopoulos is Greek.

more: http://www.boston.com/news/local/connecticut/articles/2007/04/04/three_yale_students_charged_with_burning_american_flag/
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-04-07 10:10 AM
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7. Thanks. There's a little more there, but still doesn't answer a couple
things - if the cops didn't see them doing it, what made them think it was them? How did they 'track them down'? What were the other charges - did they include being drunk? Were they suspects only because they were in the wrong neighborhood and foreigners? Most important, did they admit to it when they were picked up?

If nobody saw them do it, why were they arrested?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:09 AM
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8. Kick.
:kick:
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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9. Three Yale students arrested for burning U.S. flag
Source: Reuters

BOSTON (Reuters) - Three Yale University students, including a Briton and a Greek national, have been charged in a case involving the burning of a U.S. flag outside a Connecticut house, a court official said on Wednesday.

Said Hyder Akbar, 23, Nikolaos Angelopoulos, 19, and Farhad Anklesaria, 19, were arrested on Tuesday and charged in New Haven Superior Court with reckless endangerment, arson, breach of peace, criminal mischief and other offenses.

Police said the three torched a flag hanging from the porch of a house in New Haven near the Ivy League school.

Anklesaria is British and Angelopoulos is Greek. Both are freshmen. Akbar, a senior, was born in Pakistan but is a U.S. citizen, according to police and court documents. Anklesaria and Angelopoulos turned over their passports.



Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070404/us_nm/usa_flag_burning_dc;_ylt=AuRTY4sbQhMJvOp3iVTXFODMWM0F
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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10. They have a right to do it. That doesn't mean I have to like it.
n/t
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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12. It was someone else's flag, attached to someone else's house
The charges have nothing to do with it being a flag, from my reading. They're getting charged the same as if they lit somebody's newspaper on fire on their porch.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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17. exactly. It's a shitty headline that implies they were arrested for just the burning
NT
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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23. OMG! I am so dumb! How did I miss that the first time I read this story
I thought it was a flag hanging from the window of THEIR house (or more accurately, a house they rented).

Well, that just makes it worse.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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13. What right allows them to do "reckless endangerment, arson, breach of peace, criminal mischief"? n/t
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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15. Reuters was being disingenuous...
The headline should have read "Three Yale students arrested for reckless endangerment, arson, breach of peace, criminal mischief and other offenses." But with names like Said Hyder Akbar, Nikolaos Angelopoulos, and Farhad Anklesaria, American CorpMedia couldn't resist throwing in the American flag.
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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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18. So they shouldn't report what they were burning?
I guess the following would be nicer....


"Three Yale students arrested for reckless endangerment, arson, breach of peace, criminal mischief and other offenses. Police said the three did something to a thing that was doing something on a thing of a house in New Haven near the Ivy League school. ****** is **** and ****** is *****. Both are fr*shm*n. ******, a sen*or, was ***** in ******* but *********, according to police and court documents. ******** and ****** turned over their ********."



Work for you? It works for me. :D
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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19. Well, no, they weren't arrested for burning the American flag...
They were arrested for "reckless endangerment, arson, breach of peace, criminal mischief and other offenses." The headline read that they were arrested for burning the American flag. Reuters can report that they burned the American flag, but not that they were arrested for it.

This headline is misleading and was written for shock value and nothing more...
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SayWhatYo Donating Member (991 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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20. My bad, I think I misunderstood what you were getting at.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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11. they have a right to burn the flag
however, I don't know that they have the right to burn a flag hanging from a flagpole at a house--could this be why they were arrested? Depending on the foliage around the place, the fire could have spread to the house. Also, I think that if the flag didn't belong to them, but was the property of the homeowner (I'm assuming they didn't live at the house), there could be other charges as well.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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14. What right allows them to do "reckless endangerment, arson, breach of peace, criminal mischief"? n/t
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seriousstan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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16. "torched a flag hanging from the porch of a house "
And you don't know if they had the right to do this?????
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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21. Damn another case of
Burning while Brown...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-05-07 03:10 AM
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22. What a bunch of ridiculous spin.
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