Job losses in Indiana rank 2nd in U.S.

[LiberalFighter]

Source: Ft Wayne Journal Gazette (Associated Press)

Indiana lost more jobs in February than any other state except Ohio as its struggling manufacturing sector helped fuel the loss of 7,400 non-farm-related paychecks.

Figures released Friday by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics show that only Ohio lost more jobs, about 9,700, in February. New Jersey was third with some 6,200 job losses.

Indiana was one of only three states to report a decline in employment for the past year, shedding about 12,700 jobs. Most of those losses came from the state’s struggling manufacturing and construction sectors.

Despite a wave of announcements about companies moving to and expanding in the state, Indiana’s manufacturing-heavy economy continues to hemorrhage jobs, said Philip Powell, faculty chairman of the evening MBA program at Indiana University’s Kelley School of Business.

Read more: www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/17014191.htm

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I guess Governor Mitch Daniels'economic revitalization plan is working. He is a miracle worker.

[Selatius]

1. At this point, no lone governor could stop the hemorrhaging of manufacturing jobs.

The problem could only be tackled by federal authorities. I don't believe a governor could levy tariffs to save his manufacturing sector if he wanted it. Only the federal government has the power to levy fair trade tariffs, if I'm not mistaken.

[LiberalFighter]

3. His campaign was to save Indiana... he's doing an excellent job NOT

His idea of saving Indiana..

Outsourcing government jobs.
Leasing toll roads for 75 years.
Putting Indiana on DST.

[Selatius]

6. I won't defend your governor on those issues, but the larger issue of manufacturing erosion is...

something he simply couldn't promise to save your state from, and if he did, he was making a promise he wasn't capable of fulfilling.

[snappyturtle]

11. I'm from Indiana, originally, and my mother still lives on the family

farm in southern Lake County. My mother(90 years old) is having a fit because for some reason, which she has never been able to adequately explain, Lake County outsourced some of their property assessor jobs to an OHIO firm! It is a mess.....now she pays state property tax four times a year rather than the two it used to be and nobody can seem to agree, I guess, on the tax rate....things change frequently. This has been going on for several years now. Of course, bless my mom's little republicon heart, she blames the Democrats. It's all the Democrats fault! Since she is so old I don't argue with her. I don't know to this day if she realizes the turn over to Democratic candidates last November.

Note: spell check doesn't like 'republicon' ... Ha!

[LiberalFighter]

13. A lawsuit was filed in 1993 by the Town of St John in Lake County

Let her know that the State Supreme Court made the ruling on how property was to be assessed.

In addition, whether the State House was Democratic or Republican controlled does not matter as the State Senate has been in Republican control for ages. At least since 1986.

Many people are not knowledgeable about the workings of State Government let alone the Federal Government.

[snappyturtle]

24. Did the State Supreme Court also decide

who did the assessing? Ol' Pete has represented her district, the first, forever and he is a Democrat...that's what she doesn't like. Indiana has always been a mystery to me. Seemed as if many people actually espoused Democratic views and then voted Republican!

[LiberalFighter]

27. Court ruled that properties must be assessed based on market value

General Assembly then increased the exemption to off-set the property taxes.

Everyone should be paying taxes fairly this way. The only ones that should see an increase in their property taxes would be those that weren't paying based on the same assessment used for everyone.

It shouldn't increase taxes overall. Yes some may have found themselves paying 15% more or so but it probably meant that either there wasn't a standard assessment made on the property for everyone or it could also be that some were assessed at a lower value intentionally while others had to take up the slack.

I believe that the court ruled that there had to be a guide put together to better assessed properties fairly.

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She doesn't like Visclosky cause he's a Democrat?
I wonder if she even votes.
I wonder if there has been any issue that she has tried to get resolved thru his office.
Her best choice if she wants to be represented by a Republican would be to move to the 4th District. With her being 90 years old I wouldn't suggest telling her that.
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There are too many wacko Hoosiers in this state. I have Souder who believes his values are better than anyone else.
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Last year we only had 2 Democrats in the House now we have 5 and the Republicans are down to 4.

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I believe a lot of it is the abortion issue and the taking guns away that drive them to vote Republican.

[snappyturtle]

31. Whoa! Does she vote----YES!

Look I don't think you realize what's happening in Lake County. People in the northern part of it are being taxed out of their homes. Your reference to St. John is way earlier than what's been going on there in the last few years. And,yes she is very vocal. I have pictures of her that appeared in the local papers at meetings and even informal gatherings protesting lots of issues....even the lack of presence of stop lights on U.S. Hwy. 41.

This property tax situation is a Lake County issue. For a while they didn't even pay property taxes,,,,,,,it was on hold til those in charge decided what to do. Then, of course, the county needed money so they eradically send out these bills. Lake County lost so much industry that property taxes took up the slack. But when a home's market value is higher than the realistic selling price someting is wrong. And, now that the taxes are so exorbitant these homes will be difficult to sell. My sister lives in Valpo which is in Porter County...they're not experiencing these problems that Lake County has. It's a big problem there. After the first re-assessing by the Ohio assessors there was such outrage that another group was hired to do it all over again! Again, it's a mess. Hopefully, your county is not experiencing this.

[LiberalFighter]

33. We had delays with county assessors not mailing out the taxes

But they also if I recall sent out statements to the effect that a final one would be mailed and we could pay what was owed in the spring and pay the difference in the fall.

Fair Market Value is suppose to be the selling price of the house. So if the market is depressed then the fair market value should go down. But at the same time if the too many houses are in that situation then the taxes would still go up.

I wonder if Cole Layer Trumble of Dayton, Ohio was the company doing the appraisal. If so they were low balling high end properties and high balling lower priced properties in Ohio.

[snappyturtle]

34. What should be isn't always what is.

I have no idea the name of the company from Ohio. That was a lot earlier in this mess. Mom gets letters that say they don't know when the taxes will be coming out and they still haven't decided on how much! Then she'll get a "bill". This is happening eradically several times a year. And it's DUE......no putting it off til later because they don't know what later is or for how much it will be if they ever decide. Does this jibberish make any sense? But, that's what's happening believe me or not.

[LiberalFighter]

36. Does she have a rough idea what the bill will be?

It would be best for her to budget so much a month for her property taxes. State law mandates at a minimum 15 days notice of property taxes owed.

I haven't found anything pertaining to Lake County having tax property assessment problems for 2007 or with making 4 payments. Maybe Lake County was given the option of providing taxpayers to pay in 4 installments to ease the burden.

For your use. You can check out your mothers home and see whether you believe the house is appraised properly.
Lake County

[snappyturtle]

38. You don't understand. There is NO schedule. She can afford

her taxes on the farm....the four payment thing isn't a choice. I have had a realtors license in MN but I'm no assessor and wouldn't know how out of line it is. The essense of this is she, and many, many citizens there, are outraged at the procedure AND the increase. The procedure is so choatic they don't know what's coming when or for how much. Fifteen days is not much time if it's thousands of dollars to people on fixed incomes. In my mother's case, she rents out the tillable acres for a set amount so even in a bumper year she gets only that set amount. I've tried to get her to contract it differently so that she can benefit a bit in good years but not penalize the renter in bad years due to weather.

[snappyturtle]

35. One of the big problems is that people can't budget

their taxes. You know, I could always figure a ballpark amount for the taxes....up some or down some years....but I had an fairly good idea what it would be OR as was the case in Dupage County,IL I got fair warning of a big hike.

[LiberalFighter]

29. By the way if your mother believes she is paying higher taxes than what they should be

she should challenge the assessment. But someone needs to check it out and provide the rational as to why the assessment on her property should be less.

Also, with her age I am sure there is an exemption or deduction for senior citizens that she should be eligible.

[snappyturtle]

32. My mother isn't fighting over just her property taxes

as it's county wide......many people are protesting. Of course she doesn't like paying more than what's fair but at least she can pay them. Many cannot afford the increases. This isn't a little increase. When industry left Lake County (steel)tax revenues plummeted....that's the best explanation I can get out of this. My grandfather started this farm in the early 1900's and went through the depression with no help and no electricity. It is 300 acres of lush, black earth and it's a shame that the older generations who have put so much into the land and the sweat and toil of the mills meet the latter part of their lives with increased "responsibility". imho

[LiberalFighter]

37. Along with eliminating the business inventory tax which shifted

more of the taxes to the individuals.

[LiberalFighter]

2. Indiana a top loser of jobs in February (from Indy Star)

Despite the wave of companies moving to and expanding in Indiana, the state is having a hard time hanging onto jobs, according to figures released Friday by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Preliminary statistics show Indiana lost more jobs in February than any other state except Ohio. About 7,400 non-farm-related positions vanished, compared with 9,700 in Ohio and 6,200 in New Jersey.

Indiana also had the largest percentage job loss in the country, tied with Maine, New Jersey, Ohio, and Vermont, each dropping two-tenths of 1 percent. Indiana was one of only three states to report a decline in employment for the past year, shedding 12,700 jobs.

Most of the losses -- not surprising to economists -- came from the state's struggling manufacturing and construction sectors.

[OhioChick]

4. We Beat You. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

14. You better win tonite... I don't want florida to win

[IWantAChange]

5. What 'strong economy' does the Chimp keep talking about??

When you replace manufacturing and construction jobs with service and finance sector jobs it would appear to be be a net loss for the employee.

[Megahurtz]

7. He's Talking About His

precious Fucking Stock Market and precious Fucking Stockholders.:mad:
:rant:

He has no regard for the American Worker (and I'm talking about the American Citizen Worker).:grr:

Hell, he's never had a job, what would he know what it's like to actually work?

[earth mom]

9. Awesome rant! Couldn't have said it better myself!

:grr:

[Megahurtz]

19. Thanks,

:)

and, 'aint it the sad truth.:(

[OhioChick]

20. You always have damn good rants, Megahurtz!

:)

[ananda]

8. aint karma a beeyatch

They got what they voted for.

[Rageneau]

10. Another Red state reaping the benefits of supporting the GOP

[IndianaGreen]

28. Indiana job losses began with Clinton's NAFTA

and have accelerated ever since. Globalization has been a big loser for Indiana workers.

[twiceshy]

39. Will the last manufacturing plant in the USA...

Kindly shut off the lights after you finish outsourcing to China.

[ekelly]

12. My son lives in Indiana

23 years old with a family (wife, 3 yr old and 1 on the way)

High School grad - no college.
They moved there because his friend got him a job at a steel mill near Butler, IN and he makes $10/hr.
Friend's dad owns the apartment building, so the rent is only $400/month.
They just got approved for Medicaid and food stamps.

They are screwed if he loses his job.

[LiberalFighter]

15. Must be Steel Dynamics

[ekelly]

21. Not sure what the name is

I think there are 2 or 3 in the area.
Do you live there?

[LiberalFighter]

25. Yes I'm in NE Indiana

[INdemo]

16. If Mitch would lease Indiana to Ohio we could be number 1

[KansDem]

17. Why...what does the Quayle Family newspaper(s) have to say about this?

Quayle was born in Indianapolis, Indiana to Martha Corinne Pulliam and James C. Quayle. He has often been incorrectly referred to as James Danforth Quayle III. In his memoirs, he points out that his birth name was simply James Danforth Quayle. The name Quayle originates from the Isle of Man.<1>

His maternal grandfather, Eugene C. Pulliam, was a wealthy and influential publishing magnate who founded Central Newspapers, Inc., owner of over a dozen major newspapers such as the Arizona Republic and The Indianapolis Star. James C. Quayle moved his family to Arizona in 1955 to run a branch of family's publishing empire. While the Quayle family was wealthy, Dan Quayle was not- his total net worth by the time of his election in 1988 was less than a million dollars.

After spending much of his youth in Arizona, he graduated from Huntington High School in Huntington, Indiana in 1965. He then matriculated at DePauw University, where he received his B.A. degree in political science in 1969, and where he was a member of the fraternity Delta Kappa Epsilon. After receiving his degree, Quayle joined the Indiana National Guard and served from 1969-1975. While serving in the Guard, he earned a Juris Doctor (J.D.) degree in 1974 at Indiana University School of Law Indianapolis.

Quayle's public service began in July 1971 when he became an investigator for the Consumer Protection Division of the Indiana Attorney General's Office. Later that year, he became an administrative assistant to Governor Edgar Whitcomb. From 1973-1974, he was the Director of the Inheritance Tax Division of the Indiana Department of Revenue. Upon receiving his law degree, Quayle worked as associate publisher of his family's newspaper, the Huntington Herald-Press, and practiced law with his wife in Huntington.

Wikipedia

I wonder if they could give some insight into this anomaly...

[LiberalFighter]

18. Since 2000 the Star has been owned by Gannett

[onehandle]

22. Bush 2008.

Idiots.

[Rydz777]

23. Tsunami

The loss of industrial jobs is becoming a tsunami. That and the Iraq war will wipe out the Republican party in their traditional heartland states. I am seriously coming to believe that that party will collapse, just like its predecessor the Whig party.

[provis99]

26. having lived in Monroe and Brown counties, its too bad

the economy has been going downhill since the mid-1970's. The area of the state I lived in was gorgeous, and actually had some solid Democrats, unlike all the state north of Indianapolis, which is red all the way except for Gary. These industrial jobs are gone forever, as they are in Michigan, Illinois, and Ohio, and lots of people are migrating to the South to look for work, ironically from the way things happened in history.

[EClark5483]

30. Wow, that's crazy

My wife and I went on vacation to Indiana a few years back. I live in flat, flat, dead Nebraska. I absolutely loved everything about that state. The fishing, Indiana Beach, Indianapolis, the scenery during the forth of July... the better fireworks.. We stayed in Lafayette during the 4th of July. And I was just amazed with all the industry and commercial business in the home town of Purdue. We had actually considered moving our working class asses to Lafayette just because of the academic programs alone. Seeing news like this, makes me glad we didn't do it. But I would still like to live there some day. Indiana, at least in my opinion of all of the states I have visited. Is the Utopian state of America. Too bad the economy is screwed.

[HughBeaumont]

40. "Any other state EXCEPT Ohio".

Tell me WHY this state and In-die-aner voted for the Failure Fuhrer again? Oh wait, it's so "none our kids catch th' GAY!!!"