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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:09 PM
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Britain's push to renew Trident comes under attack ... from Iran
Sat 17 Mar 2007

GERRI PEEV
POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT (gpeev@scotsman.com)

... Under fire from Western powers over its own atomic programme, Iran's envoy to the International Atomic Energy Agency said plans to renew Britain's nuclear arsenal were a "serious setback" to international disarmament efforts.

... Nigel Griffiths, the Edinburgh South MP ... who quit as deputy Commons leader to vote with 32 other Scottish Labour MPs against renewal of the nuclear arsenal, said that after hearing Iran's response, he was determined to take his anti-nuclear mission further ...

In his resignation speech on Wednesday, Mr Griffiths warned of the consequences internationally of renewing Trident: "The world is watching us. Let us be leaders for peace."

Yesterday, Ali Asghar Soltanieh, Iran's envoy to the IAEA, said: "Britain does not have the right to question others when they're not complying with their obligations ." ...

http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=417162007
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:58 PM
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1. Meh..
Edited on Fri Mar-16-07 09:58 PM by Pavulon
What does Iran, an NPT signatory, care if Britain does go to the next d series of trident? Iran is just developing peaceful reactors. The british have had the h bomb since we traded it to them for the formula for VX.

Did Iran ever pay Russia. Somebody may get poisoned if they dont pay up.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:01 PM
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3. Under the NPT, the nuclear-weapon states agreed to pursue disarmament:
Treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons

Signed at Washington, London, and Moscow July 1, 1968
Ratification advised by U.S. Senate March 13, 1969
Ratified by U.S. President November 24, 1969
U.S. ratification deposited at Washington, London, and Moscow March 5, 1970
Proclaimed by U.S. President March 5, 1970
Entered into force March 5, 1970

... Article VI

Each of the Parties to the Treaty undertakes to pursue negotiations in good faith on effective measures relating to cessation of the nuclear arms race at an early date and to nuclear disarmament, and on a Treaty on general and complete disarmament under strict and effective international control ...

http://www.fas.org/nuke/control/npt/text/npt2.htm


The failure of the existing nuclear-weapon states to disarm has been a continuing irritation to the non-nuclear-weapon states, as indicated (for example) by this 2004 interview:

Balancing Nonproliferation and Disarmament: An Interview With Brazilian Ambassador and NPT Review Conference President Sérgio de Queiroz Duarte

... ACT: Brazil is a member of the New Agenda Coalition, which contends there has not been meaningful action by the nuclear-weapon states toward fulfilling their disarmament obligations under Article VI. How can the nuclear-weapon states live up to these commitments, and how important is it that they are perceived as doing so?

Duarte: It is very important that they are perceived to be living up to their commitments. I think it's a question of confidence, a question of transparency and of improving the climate of mistrust that exists . If the measures the nuclear-weapon parties took for nuclear disarmament were perhaps better understood by the remainder of the countries and were accompanied by very clear gestures of a continued commitment to arrive at that end-a reaffirmation which could be done at the Review Conference-it would help a lot to allay some of the mistrust that exists. It is something that each of the nuclear-weapon states-parties must do on its own. I do not have any reason to doubt the seriousness of any of the parties, nuclear or non-nuclear. If they are seriously committed to some steps, they should continue to be committed and fulfill their obligations, but they must do it in a way that will convince the rest of the parties that they are really complying. It is a difficult thing to do ...

ACT: Several countries spoke out strongly at the last PrepCom that any exploration of new nuclear weapons by the nuclear-weapon states violates the spirit of the NPT and is at odds with the 13 steps on disarmament. The treaty contains no prohibition against the research or development of new nuclear weapons by the nuclear-weapon states, and in fact they built thousands of additional nuclear weapons following the NPT's conclusion in 1968. Why should the nuclear-weapon states refrain now from any research or development into new nuclear weapons when most of their arsenals are steadily decreasing?

Duarte: Research is one thing, but production is another. The fact that there is research adds to a climate of less-than-complete confidence among the parties. It would be useful if the nuclear-weapon states refrained from doing anything that would be perceived as continued reliance on nuclear weapons ...

http://www.armscontrol.org/interviews/20041104_Duarte.asp


In fact, Brazil for a while spoke openly of leaving the NPT if the nuclear-weapon states did not make meaningful progress towards disarmament. John Bolton ensured that the conference, referenced in the above interview, accomplished almost nothing -- yet another piece in the Bush Administration attack on international agreements.

I can't see any reason to think that such unhappiness on the part of the non-nuclear-weapon NPT signatory states is unreasonable ...
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:55 PM
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2. I only take issue with saying Britain this, Britain that
As if the people of this country have any say or voice in this or any other issue. That concept got thrown out the door long ago
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 11:17 PM
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4. I think I shall break down and weep if our friends in the Isles -- whose ancestors ...
... invented English law in response to the Norman invasion and soon had judges in their courts referring to "William the Bastard," whose ancestors leaned rather heavily on John at Runnymede, whose ancestors abruptly terminated the rule of one Charles in the struggle for parliamentary power -- have permanently decided they haves no way to influence politics in their own country
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