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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:21 PM
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Assad flips out at Ahmadinejad on phone
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 04:16 PM by UnyieldingHierophant
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1173173952554

Report: Assad flips out at Ahmadinejad on phone
By JPOST.COM

Syrian President Bashar Assad exchanged harsh words with Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad during a phone conversation, the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah reported on Wednesday.

Sources close to the Syrian leader told the newspaper that Assad had initially called the Iranian president to discuss Ahmadinejad's meeting with Saudi Arabia's King Abdullah in Riyadh.

However, the conversation reportedly turned ugly when Ahmadinejad voiced support for the establishment of an international tribunal on the assassination of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik Hariri - a sensitive subject for Syria, which has been suspected of involvement in the Lebanese leader's death.

The report said that Assad became enraged and launched into an angry tirade, cursing the Iranians at the end of the conversation.

Iran and Syria have been allies for decades. They have been particularly united in their criticism of Israel and the United States.


HERE IS THE ARTICLE FROM Al-Siyassah
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ar&u=http://www.alseyassah.com/alseyassah/&sa=X&oi=translate&resnum=3&ct=result&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKuwaiti%2Bnewspaper%2BAl-Seyassah%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26channel%3Ds%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DhA3%26sa%3DX

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كشف مصدر مقرب من القصر الرئاسي السوري ان الرئيس بشار الاسد بادر بالاتصال بنظيره الايراني محمود احمدي نجاد فور عودة الاخير من الرياض فجر الاحد الماضي للاطلاع على نتائج القمة السعودية- الايرانية , مؤكدا ان الا سد كان في حالة مزاجية سيئة للغاية بعد المحادثة الهاتفية دفعت بعض مساعديه المقربين الى العمل على تهدئة روعه واقناع�� بعدم قطع شعرة معاوية مع الايرانيين .A source close to the presidential palace that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and his parents have contacted the Iranian Mahmoud Ahmadinejad soon return the last of Riyadh at dawn last Sunday to be briefed on the outcome of the summit-Saudi Arabia, Iran, stressing that only bridge was in a state of mind, very bad after the telephone conversation was paid to some of his close associates to calm down and convince no spare thin line "with the Iranians.
وقال المصدر ل¯ " السياسة " ان سورة الغضب التي تملكت الرئيس الاسد الى درجة كيل السباب والشتائم للايرانيين اشارت بوضوح الى انه سمع من احمدي نجاد كلاما لم يكن ينتظره خصوصا في ما يتعلق بالملف اللبناني وتحديدا حول المحكمة الدولية في قضية اغتيال رئيس وزراء لبنان الاسبق رفيق الحريري.The source said ل¯ "policy" that rage overpowered by President Assad to the extent Under insults and curses of the Iranians clearly, that he has heard from Ahmadinejad are not waiting, especially with regard to the Lebanese file, specifically on the court international involvement in the assassination of the Prime Minister of Lebanon's former Prime Minister Rafiq al-Hariri.
واشار المصدر ذاته الى ان مساعدي الاسد تمكنوا من اقناعه بعدم التصعيد مع طهران في الوقت الراهن والتفكير بدلا من ذلك في الخيارات المتاحة لعرقلة أي تفاهم سعودي- ايراني لتسوية الازمة اللبنانية وتمرير مشروع المحكمة الدولية خصوصا وان وزير الخارجية الايراني منوشهر متكي او سكرتير مجلس الامن القومي علي لاريجاني سيزور احدهما دمشق خلال الايام القليلة المقبلة لوضع الاسد في اجواء القرار النهائي الذي اتخذته طهران للتعامل مع الملفات الاقليمية.The source pointed out that Al-Assad's assistants were able to convince him not to escalate with Tehran at the present time, instead of thinking in the options available to block any Saudi-Iranian understanding for the settlement of the Lebanese crisis and tried to pass the International Tribunal in particular, the foreign minister, Iranian Manouchehr Matki or National Security Council Secretary Ali Larijani, will visit Damascus, one in the next few days to put Assad in the atmosphere of the final decision taken by Tehran to deal with regional files.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:27 PM
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1. Huh. Interesting. Wonder if there is any truth to it.
I wonder what Ahmadinejad is up to if there is. He's not as insane as Bush's spin has made him sound (He did not deny the Holocaust and did not call for Israel to be wiped off the map, for instance, though he is no friend of the Israeli government), but I wonder why he would care whether Syria killed Hariri.

Then again, religion and politics aren't everything. Hariri was a very wealthy man, maybe there is some monetary connection, or some other connection? Anyone know?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:32 PM
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2. That is odd. Surely Ahmadinejad must know that the last thing
Assad wants is an investigation of the Hariri killing. I am sure that Hezbollah, an ally of Iran in Lebanon, is not pushing for such an investigation. As you said, there may be some hidden connections between Ahmadinejad and Hariri or could he be making some kind of diplomatic overture?
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:33 PM
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3. I wonder who was tapping his phone?
"Sources close to the Syrian leader".

Mossad or CIA?

Or maybe the story is just mischief. Who knows.
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:35 PM
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4. That's the first thing I wondered
who got the info?
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:43 PM
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5. How could Ahmadinejad be that ignorant about the frame-up? He really is an idiot.
The star witness implicating Assad openly brags about earning millions for his false testimony to the UN commission, yet his testimony is still included as evidence.

The Israeli and Western press continues to blame Syria for the assassination without any proof.

It must have driven Assad up the wall to hear an ostensible ally suggest this frame-up was a good idea.

Ahmadinejad deserved to be cursed for his ignorance.
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:55 PM
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9. You are doing a pretty good job of defending Assad without
any proof. We all know that the beloved leader runs an open and democratic government with no interest or involvement in Lebanon, so I have no idea why any one suspects such a man.

Syrian opponents in Lebanon don't have a much longer life expectancy than do opponents of Putin do in Russia. It is hard to pin the deaths on Assad or Putin, but is a statistical oddity often these "accidents" or unsolvable explosions do occur.
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oblivious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:01 PM
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10. So do you have any proof that Assad did it?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:08 PM
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13. No. Let the investigation proceed.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:10 PM
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16. and how could such an investigation even proced? how could any info come to light?
It's just going to be more covert operators comming out of the woodwork spining whatever story they've been told to say. How could there be "proof" ? Why would there be any to find?
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pampango Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:20 PM
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21. Your entitled to your opinion.
I find it sad if the point is that an anti-Syrian prime minister dies when his car explodes and the claim is then made that an investigation is pointless since there will never be any "proof" just lots of lying covert operators. Kind of opens the door to political assassination without consequence as a way of doing business.

If my car blows up tomorrow, I hope they don't put you in charge of the subsequent investigation.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:29 PM
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24. Ahmadinejad will host an international conference about it next year. n/t
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:46 PM
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6. Ahmadinejad is an equal opportunity offender.
He seems to insult everybody. He and * have more in common than they imagine.
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:47 PM
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7. This is a script from Saturday Night Live.
In fact, I think they have already done this one.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:12 PM
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17. No kidding. And "death to America". n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 03:54 PM
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8. You know, this is just more psyops. "We're listening!"
So much for those old Soviet scrambler phones. Go for Chinese-made next time.
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:05 PM
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11. It's a strange story...."Sources close to the Syrian leader
told the newspaper...the Kuwaiti newspaper Al-Siyassah"

...hard to get a handle on the players.

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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:09 PM
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15. Is JPost the first to cover this?
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 04:11 PM by leveymg
If so, that should be a clue who was doing the listening, and sending the message. The Kuwaiti paper was probably just a cut-out for this "leak".
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:19 PM
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19. The JP and Kuwaiti paper both had stories today...see the Kuwaiti story above.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:24 PM
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22. I'll allow for the possibility that Saudi external intel might have had a role in this
File under: Black Ops/Practical Jokes/:evilgrin:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:13 PM
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18. Why bother listening when you can just plant fiction? n/t
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mikelgb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:06 PM
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12. diplomats, all
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:09 PM
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14. Ahmadinejad is clearly working for the US, he's a traitor to his own nation n/t
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:19 PM
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20. And, just as clearly, Shrub & Dick are working for Iran, so they're all traitors
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 05:00 PM by leveymg
Here's the deal - we'll ship Shrub and Dick to Tehran for trial, if they send us Ahmadinejad.

There are two white Gulfstream V waiting at the end of an airstrip in North Carolina for the go order.

"Roger, zero one-six - cleared for takeoff"

"Roger, 19er - you're cleared to go, too."
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:28 PM
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23. "You never call... you never write... I only hear from you when you need bombs." n/t
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UnyieldingHierophant Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 09:39 PM
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25. LOL
:rofl:
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-08-07 09:37 AM
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26. Right.
Sources close to Assad won't be close to Assad long if they run to JPost with stories like this ...
But more likely this is bullshit. Calling it a "story" is exactly right in this case.
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