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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:12 PM
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AP/NYTimes: Verdict Puts Focus on Cheney
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 07:14 PM by understandinglife
Verdict Puts Focus on Cheney

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Filed at 6:50 p.m. ET

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Campaigning in 2000, George Bush promised he would swear on the Bible to restore honor and dignity to a sullied White House and give it ''one heck of a scrubbing.'' The conviction of I. Lewis ''Scooter'' Libby gave the White House a scrubbing -- but not the one Bush had in mind.

The case laid bare the inner workings of a presidency under siege and the secretive world of Vice President Dick Cheney.

It showed the lengths to which Cheney went in early summer 2003 to discredit administration critic Joseph Wilson. The former ambassador's assertions had cast doubt on the administration's justification for having taken the country to war in Iraq. And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.

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Link:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/us/AP-Leak-Trial-Analysis.html


In_Deed.


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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:24 PM
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1. Now what happens?
OK, Bush and Cheney ordered it. C'mon Nancy, it's SUBPOENA Time!!!
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joanmj Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:47 PM
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5. Who me?
:hide:
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niceypoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:23 PM
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14. Welcome to DU joanmj
:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:15 PM
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10. QUOTE: "It may be time for Cheney to submit his resignation."
From the article:

The verdict "does great damage to the Bush administration," said Paul C. Light, professor of public service at New York University. "It undermines the president's pledge of ethical conduct. But the most serious consequence is that it will raise questions about Cheney's durability in office. It may be time for Cheney to submit his resignation."
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GreenZoneLT Donating Member (805 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:23 AM
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34. Wishful thinking, prof.
Cheney will never quit, and W will never force him to quit. The only way either of those guys leaves the White House is in March, 2009, or in handcuffs. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any "high crimes and misdemeanors" that they can be tried for. They've done a lot of nasty things, but none of them are prosecutable.



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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 11:10 AM
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42. "Nasty things, but none of them are prosecutable." - Can't or won't prosecute?
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 11:10 AM by leveymg
Fitzgerald's brief was to investigate the Plame outing and chose only to prosecute the individual who had most directly lied to investigators. That does not mean, sir, that he couldn't have obtained indictments for an IIPA conspiracy against Libby, Rove, Fleischer, and Cheney. That would have been a much riskier path and a more politically controversial means to the same end -- getting the facts about the crime on the record.

Next, comes discovery in the civil trial. Congress needs to step up, as well, and subpoena Cheney.

Impeach Cheney first.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 08:37 AM
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35. cheney will not do it, he will take all of them down with him.
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 08:39 AM by alyce douglas
cheney motto, is just ignore the facts and go on with the PNAC agenda. Their crimes will catch up with them soon enough.
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Kikosexy2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:05 PM
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43. More ...
blood clots please...like around the heart?...
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razorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 09:19 AM
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38. I don't think much more will happen on this matter.
The American public has a ridiculously short memory. Now that the verdict is in, and after the appeals, etc., Libby will do his time and be forgotten, at least until he is pardoned. Even that will only raise a fuss for a little while.
Politicians of both parties know that if they can wait out a scandal long enough, the public will go on to he next Anna Nicole, love-struck crazy astronaut, or whatever. It's an MTV world with a short attention-span.
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exlrrp Donating Member (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 09:31 AM
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39. So this is Fitzmas??
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 09:31 AM by exlrrp
Somehow I understood there was going to be more.
How disappointing this must be to all the people who perceived Fitzgerald as on a white horse, sure to bring justice to the situation, who renamed all their holicays after him: Fitzmas, Fitzgiving, Fitzoween, etc. The only holiday I think is remotely relevant to rename is April Fitz Day.
Mission Accomplished Fitz!! you dragged it out for almost 4 years and never got higher than a 2d tier player. You investigated Cheney's right hand man, uncoverd Cheney's complicity and we never heard a word from Cheney ever, or Bush either, other than he was disappointed in the verdict. Oh yeah, Bush and Cheney were really shaking in ther shoes allright.
The Republicons knew what they were doing named Fitzgerald to investigate a republicon administration
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:43 PM
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45. April Fitz Day? Awesome! n/t
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:42 PM
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44. I think you're right. It's over. And it's not even close to justice done. n/t
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Diane R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:43 PM
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2. Now what happens? Appeal. Stall. Bail. Stall. Then the pardon. Carry on.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:46 PM
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3. Great article!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:47 PM
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4. be nice now
Edited on Tue Mar-06-07 07:49 PM by CountAllVotes
poor man has a blood clot in his leg and is recovering at work right now.

Gee, I just remembered something. Several years ago they thought I had a blood clot in my leg. They found out I didn't luckily. I remember asking them, "If I had a blood clot in my leg what would have been done?" Answer was: YOU would not have left the hospital, that is for certain.

Hmmm.

:wtf:


:dem: :kick:
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 11:12 PM
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19. Same here:doc scared me half to death,I had to keep my leg elevated, & was threatened with hospital
Turned out to be a false alarm, but there was nothing casual about it.

Cheney is a cyborg, though.

Hekate

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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:48 PM
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47. yeah you are right!
They were not at all "casual" with me either. It scared the hell out of me and I left the hospital on crutches and had to stay off my feet and keep my legs elevated until the pain subsided.

I later found out what the problem was from (it had nothing to do with a blood clot) but the hospital nor the doctor acted like it was just "nothing". Had it been a blood clot they told me I'd likely be in the OR having it removed because it could travel to the heart or the brain and kill you very quickly.

So what IS the deal with Cheney? That is what I'd like to really know - the truth for a change! :grr:

:kick:

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:51 PM
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6. How's this?
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:56 AM
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41. Bush admitted he declassified the CIA NIE so Scooter could use it to attack Wilson
Edited on Wed Mar-07-07 10:59 AM by leveymg
That puts Bush right in the middle of a criminal scheme, and makes him an Unindicted Co-conspirator. Sound familiar?
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PhilipShore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 07:54 PM
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7. Libby Takes Fall for Bigger Mouth
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thickerstrings Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:02 PM
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8. Speaker Pelosi, the time is now to put impeachment back on the table!
How can Cheney and Bush be walking around as free men? Sounds like high treason to me.
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:13 PM
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9. IMPEACH them both now! Then prosecute them for their crimes! Then hang the bastards!
There is no other answer that will not pass their wealth and evil throughout this century.
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ray of light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:30 PM
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11. Get groups of people to phone their reps. Even Hagel says when
we make noice they'll listen. Especially the Repubs who will have to worry about re-election in 08.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 08:34 PM
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12. QUOTE: "...we are now officially in Nixon territory.”
Article with links to blogs discussed.

March 6, 2007, 8:09 pm
Blogtalk: The Verdict
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/06/blogtalk-the-verdict/

By Michael McElroy

A line of intrigue that began with an op-ed in 2003 came to an end today when I. Lewis “Scooter Libby” was found guilty .....

The blogs saw the trial as more about Vice President Dick Cheney than about Mr. Libby, Mr. Cheney’s former chief of staff.

.....

Hullabaloo saw the trial as evidence of more trouble to come for the Bush administration.

“The Libby verdict is very exciting … It’s a bad day for the Republicans. And it’s getting worse … With the vice president’s office being completely discredited today and using the justice department for political purposes, we are now officially in Nixon territory.”
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:12 PM
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13. Difference is there were people in the streets when Nixon got caught
with his hand in the cookie jar. The country was running wild. People cared about whether or not politicians were honest.

Now is different.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:07 AM
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25. We also had a legitimate 4th Estate
and a Congress with cojones who weren't bought and paid for by the same special interests as the White House. No, there'll be no impeachment.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 10:54 AM
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40. Now we're running around the Net. Different way to protest but not THAT Different.
I'd take no comfort from what what's being said. In the end, it was Congress that forced Nixon out. They're getting our message, but being a bit slow to get on with it.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST.
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 09:24 PM
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15. Darth Vader will never resign. You will have to take out the Death Star.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 10:43 PM
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16. Bring out the spot lights and keep them fixed on Dick Cheney
...he is one of the thugs who is behind this along with Rove and Armitage
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 11:31 PM
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20. In_DEED!
Thank you,
Bob


Peace.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 11:08 PM
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17. Bush should receive an enema... only appropriate cleansing would be lysol
On second thought a 50/50 solution of lysol and the strongest drinking alcohol.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 11:09 PM
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18. Cheney's little firewall
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-06-07 11:37 PM
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21. NYTimes: A Judgment on Cheney Is Still to Come
A Judgment on Cheney Is Still to Come

By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

WASHINGTON, March 6 — In legal terms, the jury has spoken in the Libby case. In political terms, Dick Cheney is still awaiting a judgment.

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Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/washington/07cheney.html


In WAY more than "political terms" Dick Cheney awaits major consequences ...


IT IS TRIBUNAL TIME IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:51 AM
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22. An Image Of Justice ...
... for ALL to SEE ...




IT IS TRIBUNAL TIME IN THE USA
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 01:37 AM
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23. Unfortunately, Fitz has wiped his hands of the mess to "go back to day job"
So our only recourse is to contact ALL of our Congresscritters and demand impeachment proceedings, investigation, or whatever into this matter. Fitz ain't gonna to it. They MUST hear from us about this!!
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 06:42 AM
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24. I think Fitz needs a break
I think we have not seen the last of Fitzgerald. A lot of info came out at Libby's trial implicating Cheney.

Fitz always says he does not discuss ongoing investigations.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 08:44 AM
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36. The ball is in our court now, and we must tell our senators
and reps to get with it, how much evidence do they need. The days are over for holding our politicians on pedestals. Bush has tarnished the position of the term President. They are criminals need I say more.
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GOTV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 12:47 PM
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46. Contact your Senators first. Get them onboard.
If the Senate appears ready to back the impeachment (67 votes) I think the house will rush to impeach.

We know the house can impeach, the people to convince are the Senators.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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26. Analysis: Verdict puts focus on Cheney
WASHINGTON - Campaigning in 2000, George Bush promised he would swear on the Bible to restore honor and dignity to a sullied White House and give it "one heck of a scrubbing." The conviction of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby gave the White House a scrubbing — but not the one Bush had in mind.

The case laid bare the inner workings of a presidency under siege and the secretive world of Vice President Dick Cheney.

It showed the lengths to which Cheney went in early summer 2003 to discredit administration critic Joseph Wilson. The former ambassador's assertions had cast doubt on the administration's justification for having taken the country to war in Iraq. And the Libby case showed the president assisting Cheney in the leaked attacks on Wilson.

Libby, who was Cheney's chief of staff, was found guilty on Tuesday of four of five counts of obstructing justice, lying and perjury during an investigation into the administration's disclosure of the identity of undercover CIA official Valerie Plame, Wilson's wife.

more...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070306/ap_on_go_pr_wh/leak_trial_analysis
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C_U_L8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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27. Exactly why the repukes are in panic mode
Cheney is furiously dispatching deceptive
talking points to his poodles and cheerleaders.

Watch em squirm.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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28. Lies, Lies and more Lies... Obfuscation is the main tool of the mafia.
Here it comes folks, the onslaught of lies from the right wing.
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HooptieWagon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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29. You're assuming the intent of outing Plame
was to discredit Joe Wilson. Suppose the REAL intent was to neutralize Brewster-Jennings and their role in tracking illegal arms shipments. I suspect a trail B-J was following was leading back to the neo-cons at the WH....
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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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30. I hear you, HooptieWagon.
That's my suspicion also.

Welcome to DU!
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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31. Or B-J was in the way
of their making other claims in order to attack another country.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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32. Or both.
You people are singing my song.
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razors edge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 07:12 AM
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33. No doubt in my mind
they would deep six Brewster Jennings if the neo-con agenda was in need of an excuse that B-J could trip up, or one of their own be exposed as a contributor to the problem they needed to "fix".

Money trumps treason in bush world.
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 09:10 AM
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37. Sigh
If only we could put faith in the intelligence of the American public to finally get a f&ckin' clue about these bastards. Doubt it will sink in though, just as Ct. Democrats could not understand that Lieberschmuck was bad news. :(
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-07-07 04:27 PM
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48. Lieberschmuck.
:D
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