Libby jury breaks with no verdict on perjury case

[Laura PourMeADrink]

http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyid=2007-03-02T191348Z_01_N01340143_RTRUKOC_0_US-USA-CRIME-LIBBY.xml&src=rss&rpc=22

Libby jury breaks with no verdict on perjury case
Fri Mar 2, 2007 2:14pm ET

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The jury deciding if former vice presidential aide Lewis "Scooter" Libby lied when questioned about who revealed a CIA analyst's identity on Friday adjourned for the weekend without reaching a verdict.

Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, has been charged with obstructing and lying to investigators who were seeking to determine who leaked Valerie Plame's identity in 2003 after her husband accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence to build its case for the Iraq war.

The panel of seven women and four men left early to attend to personal and work obligations. They have been deliberating for more than 50 hours, since February 21. Libby's faces five charges: two counts of perjury, two counts of making false statements and one count of obstruction of justice. He faces up to 30 years in prison and $1.25 million in fines if found guilty.

His attorneys argued he could not accurately recall conversations about Plame when he spoke months later to the FBI and testified before a grand jury. Nobody has been charged with intentionally identifying Plame, the wife of former ambassador Joseph Wilson.

[BOSSHOG]

1. There's got to be a disruptor(s) on the jury

Libby perjured himself. A casual observer of the trial would have come to that conclusion long ago.

[Norquist Nemesis]

5. To make matters worse, it's one more weekend for them

to "be exposed" to news and information about the case.

[Norquist Nemesis]

2. argh!!!! "CIA analysts identity" is now mainstream

I'm still hearing "she wasn't covert" and it pisses me off each and every time that these 'hosts' and so-called 'journalists' let people get away with this characterization without correcting it! Read the indictment! She was covert!!!! :banghead:

[OnyxCollie]

6. I saw Pat Buchannon on Tucker yesterday.

He said Valerie Plame wasn't covert, and Joe Wilson lied in his report! What an asshole.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Well, I'm just asking....Has anyone produced any declarative

evidence that she was covert? I thought it was still a mystery.

[Gman]

12. It was presented as evidence in the Libby case that

Plame was covert. I never read a thing that said the defense challenged that Plame was covert. There is no legitimate question that Plame was covert. Any questions are the RW and GOP attempts to create doubt and taint the jury. This started happening shortly after they outed Plame.

[Norquist Nemesis]

13. Link to the indictment

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/iln/osc/documents/libby_indictment_28102005.pdf

d.
The responsibilities of certain CIA employees required that their association with the CIA be kept secret; as a result, the fact that these individuals were employed by the CIA was classified. Disclosure of the fact that such individuals were employed by the CIA had the potential to damage the national security in ways that ranged from preventing the future use of those individuals in a covert capacity, to compromising intelligence-gathering methods and operations, and endangering the safety of CIA employees and those who dealt with them.
2
Joseph Wilson and Valerie Plame Wilson
e.
Joseph Wilson (“Wilson”) was a former career State Department official who had held a variety of posts, including United States Ambassador. In 2002, after an inquiry to the CIA bythe Vice President concerningcertain intelligence reporting, the CIA decided on its own initiative to send Wilson to the country of Niger to investigate allegations involving Iraqi efforts to acquire uranium yellowcake, a processed form of uranium ore. Wilson orally reported his findings to the CIA upon his return.
f.
Joseph Wilson was married to Valerie Plame Wilson (“Valerie Wilson”). At all relevant times from January 1, 2002 through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA, and her employment status was classified. Prior to July 14, 2003, Valerie Wilson’s affiliation with the CIA was not common knowledge outside the intelligence community.

[napi21]

15. It was presented at trial, but IT DOESN'T MATTER!!!!!

When iseveryone going to recognize that this trial is about LYING! It's a PURGERY TRIAL!!! Libby could have lied about ANYTHING from Plame, his job,or what day of the week it is! This is NOT about outing an agent!

ARRGGGGHHHH!!!!

[Norquist Nemesis]

9. And that's exactly what I'm talking about!

I saw that! It's disgusting and, forget "mis-leading", patently FALSE!!!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. see #8. Also, do you remember before the trial when

all these people were saying that everyone knew who she worked for == and fitz sent the fbi to her neighborhood to interview neighbors to see if it was true?? I thought it was determined that her neighbors did NOT know where she worked, right?

[BOSSHOG]

11. If she wasn't covert

just a useless, insignificant desk jockey as the lemmings spew forth, why the need to out her? Ignorant bastards are so high maintenance and cost our country so much.

[Mz Pip]

18. And why the need to

lie to the Grand Jury about it? If this was no big deal why not just say, "Yeah, I talked to a whole shitload of reporters about Valerie Plame. So what?"

We shall see.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[napi21]

3. I suspected this yesterday when they asked to leave early today.

I don't think we'reaLONG way from a verdict though. One of their other questions was on count 3. There are a total of 5 counts against Scooter, so it sounds like the jury is almost through with 3 of them. That's OK. I want them to take their time and feel sure of their vote. The more certain they appear, the less likely any appeals will be successful!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. Do you think they took them in order? I heard Buchanan say

yesterday that they had a question about the "easy" one. This implied to him that they had resolved the "hard" counts.

[napi21]

14. Who knows. I'm speculating the same as Pat is.

My GUESS is based upon how I would do it if I were on that jury, but we could BOTH be wrong!

[Spazito]

17. It could be they have used a problem solving format in which

you work from the general to the specific with the result, at the end, being the resolution or, often, a few remaining questions whereby the group has to go to someone with the expertise to address the questions.

If they are, indeed, using this method, then they would have worked their way through the 5 counts and, after doing that, these two questions are the only ones left unresolved.

[Whoa_Nelly]

4. At least this will keep Dickhead on the plane and country hopping

Did he return to the US yet? :shrug:

[HuffleClaw]

16. i bet there's ONE freeperish type holding things up n/t