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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:16 AM Original message |
Auditor: Closed charter school owes state $1.4 million |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
1. This is why you don't mix |
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gratuitous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
2. Accountable? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
3. Lather, rinse repeat. |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Students in PA charter schools score lower on standardized tests |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 06:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. They found the same thing here. |
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Charter schools certainly aren't a "magic bullet", BUT |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 06:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
79. Nope. They don't require state certifications for teachers. |
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 06:52 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Charter schools are not "privitized"... |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Privatize: |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
21. No they are NOT subject to the same oversight |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
24. They need to improve the oversight. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
19. I'll comment on curriculum |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, that happens |
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Tansy_Gold (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. It's the same in Arizona |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
10. So many bad stories about charter schools. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. wow, lots of negative comments about charter schools here! |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 09:06 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Thank you for comments based on actual experience and facts |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. you're welcome. |
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LiberalFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 09:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I agree that too many schools are too large |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-23-07 11:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. it's not that schools are too large |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Many of your points underline why we need school vouchers! |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:45 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Yes let's take money away from public education! |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #22 |
55. So a child who lives in a neighborhood with bad schools . . . |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Then let us fund and support that public school in order to make it better |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
58. In my city, they already spend more per student. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. What have they been spending that money on? How much more money per student are we talking about? |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 09:53 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. I understand your points . . . |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Please, stop pulling out the limiting others freedom canard. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #55 |
69. Quit believing the hype |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 02:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. I never have believed the hype. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:35 AM Response to Reply #17 |
26. You've got to be kidding. |
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toopers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
56. Individually, all of us support programs with disagree with . . |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #56 |
65. And we all have the right to object to such use of taxes. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. We have a ton of charters in my state |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:43 PM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Thankyou for the dose of REALITY. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #11 |
25. Interesting. Now here's the flip side: |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 11:09 AM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I think that is despicable..... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. And they differ from state to state. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. we're not allowed to do that here. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Our district schools are 60 to 65% Hispanic. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. they go to other schools..... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Well, you did, actually. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. not so. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Yes I know. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #45 |
73. Our school may be different but I think we are used as a "default". |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 01:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. genvat.... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 09:00 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Does the charter provide transportation? n/t |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:11 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. No, it does not provide transportation. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 10:42 AM Response to Reply #46 |
64. And with all due respect, there's a huge discriminator. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. the lottery is the law. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I think you truly have to know .... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 11:22 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Yes, it's been a good productive discussion. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
48. BULLSHIT. Real world EXPERIENCE dictates otherwise. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 12:05 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. that money follows the child. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
81. Nope - sorry - the money is "LOST" and does NOT "follow the child. |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #11 |
52. Charter schools have too many freedoms in how the money's handled. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
59. the school in your link is what the OP was about. |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 11:58 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. That's just not true. I've read an audit of a charter school.... |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. i was talking about the state i live in. |
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callous taoboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 07:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
54. Does your charter school teach the appropriate use of capital letters? |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. yes, why? |
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rcdean (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:28 AM Response to Original message |
18. Good stuff in this thread. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 08:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. They can literally do whatever they want |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. that's not true. see post #28. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #29 |
41. Yes it is true |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. I hope I can help answer your question. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 11:04 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. excellent post. thank you! |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Not necessarily so. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. donoco6... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. No disagreement here. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:48 PM Response to Reply #27 |
50. CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE RUN BY PRIVATE CORPORATIONS FOR A PROFIT. PERIOD. |
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LiberalHeart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 01:16 AM Response to Reply #27 |
53. A charter school can act as a front for private businesses... |
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rcdean (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 09:47 AM Response to Reply #27 |
62. Thanks very much, demgurl. This helps a lot. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-25-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. rcdean, you are very welcome. |
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ProudDad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-04-07 03:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
82. I'm not yelling, just in caps to diferentiate my comments from yours |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. they are basically public schools |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #18 |
32. At will employment is one thing. |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-24-07 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
47. Same thing happened here in Vegas a couple years ago in the middle of the term. |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-26-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #47 |
76. Edison, btw, is still in business in Las Vegas |
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rcdean (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-26-07 07:44 AM Response to Original message |
75. Thanks to all who contributed to this thread. |
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all.of.me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-26-07 09:55 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. last night i did some googling |
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jazzjunkysue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Mar-03-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
80. Halliburton Elementary School For The Exceptionally Greedy |
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