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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:37 AM Original message |
Italy to try U.S. soldier for agent's death in Iraq |
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acmavm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Okay, I looked at the story and it leaves out a vital piece of info. |
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atreides1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Do they have custody? |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. it looks like he will be tried in absentia. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
3. So much for the whoppers told by george w. bush on this incident. |
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anotherdrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
4. surely Lozano was acting on orders from above. no other such incident before or after... |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 10:58 AM Response to Original message |
5. Just because the Italian Government is saying |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. In this particular case, it was cold blooded murder |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. it was cold blooded murder |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Get your nose out of the American press |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Thats your evidence? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:25 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Nobody has to prove anything to you, you mutt! Go back to sleep. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #10 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Of course they knew. You're right. Jezus. Discussed exhaustively here, |
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Taoschick (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #10 |
52. Uh-huh |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I do not have your certainty this was a murder |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. (only conjecture and accusations) that this incident was a murder. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. On that basis, you don't know the moon isn't made of green cheese, |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Wrong, we have physical evidence. Please |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Do you have any details on this evidence? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Solipsist? I was following your example - satirically? Who's we? |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Wow. Personally I never |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #34 |
49. Wow! you're really awesome when you run off at the mouth like that. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I used to work at Langley; |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. So please detail out the conspiracy |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. "Because Judge Sante Spinaci granted the request to charge Lozano?" |
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genie_weenie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:18 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Lozano is not innocent but he is not guilty. |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:00 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. The US Thugs killed this man |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. So you totally reject the possibility . |
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TheBaldyMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
6. US soldier on Italy murder charge (BBC) |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. It will be an in absentia show trial |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #13 |
29. Now whose fault would that be? |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. Bush Ordered Attack on Sgrena and Calipari |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Joe Vialls huh? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. "If the American Administration wishes to prove that it did not order the CIA |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. I would simply prefer another source .. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. I would prefer another source, too, as I despise anti-semitism, |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 03:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
45. As I was in a hurry earlier, and grabbed the first thing I found in a search, |
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Taoschick (391 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
53. ROTFL! |
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Vidar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
17. Good for Italy. |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
19. The US was culpable in the incident. There was a plane waiting at the |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-07-07 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. There's an old saying in the infantry: "better to be tried by12 than carried by 6". |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
31. If it was as you suggest, "friendly fire", what's the problem? It happens in war. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. My only contention is that Mario Lozano is innocent of the charges brought against him |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Irony: Mario is of Italian descent. |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. How on earth do you know he is innocent of the charges? |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. How on earth do you know that he is guilty oh circumlocutious one? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Well if you discount circumstantial evidecne, no matter how compelling, |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
62. . |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. The US routinely white washes the crimes of her soldiers |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #41 |
58. IndianaGreen is very well respected here. Your insults don't carry much weight. n/t |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. It wasn't an insult and I wasn't talking to you. |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
38. This guy, if I remember correctly, was one of Negroponte's personal security. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-08-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. He was on security detail for Negroponte |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:26 AM Response to Reply #38 |
42. Which guy is that? Lozano? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Hey, the lowest in the chain who I blame is Negroponte who gave him the order to go there and … (nt) |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Is there some evidence that Negroponte ordered a political assassination? |
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w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. It'll all come out in court, won't it? (nt) |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:13 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Probably not actually. nt |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Yes, and you were working as chief scientific officer at NASA. |
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MGD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. Ahhh, what's a matter, are you afraid to talk about the facts now? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-09-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. That figures now. He was no pawn or patsy. |
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