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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:50 PM
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Venezuela: a financing center for Latin America
NEW YORK, Feb 6 (Reuters) - Venezuela has emerged as a ready source of financing in Latin America, displacing the International Monetary Fund and causing repercussions in bond prices and credit ratings, Fitch Ratings said on Tuesday.

The shift toward Venezuela's oil money -- which has become a ready source of financing without any stated conditions -- has been supported by the general sense of discontent with the progress of living standards under neo-liberal policies recommended by the IMF, Fitch analyst Morgan Harting told investors in New York.

Countries such as Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay have rushed to pay back their debt and "rid themselves of the stigma of IMF conditionality," while accepting substantial investments and grants from Venezuela, Harting said.

"Would you really be as bullish on Argentina today if Venezuela had not extended it almost $4 billion in financing over the last couple of years? That has been critical in keeping Argentina afloat," Harting said.

http://today.reuters.com/news/articleinvesting.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=2007-02-06T214652Z_01_N06213892_RTRIDST_0_VENEZUELA-ECONOMY-FITCH.XML


No IMF forced privatizations of Latin American resources, no wonder the weathy are angry at Chavez.
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:01 PM
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1. How dare they?
How dare the Venezuelans use their wealth for the general good and economic indepedence of latin america? How dare they provide an alternative to IMF/WB imposed loan discipline such as the imposed privatization of bolivian water utilities that made it a crime to use rain barrels to avoid paying bechtel their fees? Surely this cannot be allowed to continue.

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:09 PM
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2. Really good news. The "journalist," Manuela Badawy, seems driven
to haggle with Venezuela over the way it should manage its budget. Very similar to the right-wing posts we see here from time to time.

I think it's probably a good idea to stop sticking long, gnarly right-wing noses into the internal affairs of other countries and their elected governments.

Looks as if Latin America has the first chance to climb up from under the bootheel of soul-less, vicious privateers since those countries were stolen by European interests, after slaughtering the citizens already living there in horrendous numbers, and enslaving the rest.

More power to them, unending success until they are finally strong and healthy, and safe, which they deserved long, long ago.

Thanks, Robbien.
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:18 PM
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3. good for Latin America
the sooner US imperialism ends the better.
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muntrv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:47 PM
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4. The nerve of Latin America, taking control of its' own destiny.
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 06:50 PM by muntrv
The way shrub is running this country, the USA will be borrowing from Venezuela.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:12 PM
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9. In a way
the U.S. already is borrowing from Venezuela.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1157172,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4461946.stm

I hope that someday the U.S. will borrow a better economic model from Venezuela.

Of course, that's why the corporate capitalist elites in the U.S. (many who also post here on DU) hate Chavez so much.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 07:48 PM
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5. Wow, I'm actually impressed with the WRITING of this article.
Reuters has been as bad as anybody in its news reporting on Chavez and South America. So I'm surprised to see something that actually reflects reality, and makes a good effort an objectivity (good old-fashioned journalism). (--Reuters reporter Manuela Badawy).

Surprise, surprise. Hardly any rightwing/fascist pig agenda items in this article (just one that I can see--see below). I'm particularly impressed with the insight, provided by Fitch analyst Harting, and reported by Badaway, regarding "the general sense of discontent with the progress of living standards under neo-liberal policies recommended by the IMF." Where else in the war profiteering corporate news monopoly press have you heard about "discontent" with "neo-liberal" policies and with the IMF in South America? Where have you even heard/read the world "neo-liberal," except maybe in quotes of Chavez (and I can't even think of one)?

I would have put it much more strongly than "discontent." How about "fury" or "absolute determination" to throw off the global corporate predators--sweeping across the entire continent, in election after election? Still, mild though it is, REALITY makes it way onto the Reuters' ticker!

I've been saying for some time that North Americans, especially business people, NEED to know what's REALLY going on in South America, if, for no other reason, their OWN survival and well-being. Do they want to stay friends with, and trade with, the democracies to the south of us that are throwing off fascist rule (most of them)? Or do they want to side with Bushites and "neo-liberal" Democrats, and be considered "the enemy" there? And if South America forms a South American Common Market with its own currency, and goes off the dollar, the result could be--if it isn't handled right by OUR government--that WE become the "banana republic" of the western hemisphere. Evo Morales (first indigenous president of Bolivia) said: "We want partners, not masters." Are we--and is our government--willing to trade with South America on FAIR TERMS? Or are they going to take their trade--their vast natural resources, and the products of their newly prospering economies--elsewhere, and close their markets to OUR products (such as they are, these days)?

There are much more profound ethical reasons why we should be paying close attention to Latin America--our government and our corporate rulers have been such a bad actors there--and there are also excellent reasons why we should be carefully observing and analyzing how they have gone about achieving democracy and majority rule, after decades and centuries of brutal dictatorship and exploitation. We could use those lessons here! (1. TRANSPARENT elections. 2. Grass roots organization. 3. Think big.). But at the very least what is happening there is going to have profound economic impacts on the north--and they could be beneficial, or they could be difficult, depending on our government's reaction (--which so far stinks--to high heaven!).

Anyway, this article by Manuela Badawy is a fresh breeze of reality--given the fetid crap that A-P, the NYT, the WSJ and the whole lot of them have been dishing up as "news" of Latin America.

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Here's the rightwing/fascist pig talking point. I've heard it from Paul Wolfowitz, too.

"According to Fitch, oil-exporting Venezuela is likely to have accumulated $44.5 billion in assets in the past three years due to high oil prices which have boosted government coffers and international reserves.

"This, however, has taken away some of the pressures to enact further reforms to improve living standards in a more sustainable way.

"The oil windfall means that the Venezuelan government could easily pay all its debt obligations of $27 billion and be debt-free if it wanted."

"Instead, Venezuela is keeping some of its cash for a rainy day or to lend to some of its friends, like Ecuador, which has vowed to restructure its external debt of $10.28 billion, Harting added.

"In January, Ecuador held talks on receiving possible credits of up to $1 billion from Venezuela, which, like itself, has a leftist government."

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"...in a more sustainable way" (improve living standards) means: for godssakes, don't spend your windfall on schools, university educations, high tech training, adult literacy classes, arts education, medical care, nutrition for children, food supplements, food self-sufficiency, low cost housing, small business loans and grants, or anything of benefit to the poor. Spend it on US--on big corporate investment--and we will "trickle down" benefits to the poor, yup, we will--forget everything that has gone before! As to "further reforms," I don't see any of these new leftist leaders holding back on REAL reforms; so what is likely meant by "further reforms" is something closer to IMF "reforms"--that is, draconian CUTS to anything that benefits the poor or keeps the country's wealth under democratic control.

Wolfwitz said much the same thing--what will Venezuela do when the oil profits sink, or the oil runs out? He meant it in a very snide way. The obvious answer is: What better thing to do with their current profits than SPEND THEM ON THE PEOPLE, to upgrade their skills, to improve the social atmosphere, and to build infrastructure and plan for the future? Give it all to fat-cat bankers and investors, and you would truly be pissing it away, with no benefit to anyone but the super-rich.

Meanwhile, with these far-thinking investments in their own people and in their neighbors' welfare, the Venezuelans are helping to build a solid foundation of grass roots democracy and leftist (majorityist) government all across the southern continent.
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 09:50 PM
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6. Good for Venezuala!
I am taking their cue personally - and have eliminated my debt, except for my mortgage...
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Say_What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 10:49 PM
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7. Related: ALBA advances
Excellent analysis.

<clips>

At the beginning, in 2003, the project seemed utopian. The governments of Venezuela and Cuba proclaimed ALBA (the Bolivarian Alternative for the Americas), a concept created by Hugo Chávez with the support of Cuban President Fidel Castro. At the same time, the U.S. government and the oligarchies from several Latin American nations pushed the FTAA (Free Trade Area of the Americas), which was to begin operations in January 2005, according to W. Bush. That didn't happen.

The FTAA was running into reefs. Several Latin American countries, led by Brazil, Venezuela and Argentina -- all members of Mercosur -- refused to enter into negotiations that would exclusively benefit U.S. interests to the detriment of their own nations' interests. The Doha summit failed, as a consequence of the refusal of the big economic powers (the U.S., the European Union and Japan) to stop subsidizing their agricultural products.

...In early 2006, after the inauguration of President Evo Morales, Bolivia also joined ALBA and welcomed Operation Miracle and the literacy campaign. Bolivia, one of the region's poorest countries, could provide free medical coverage for the first time in its history. Hospitals donated by Cuba and Venezuela were built in strategic locations. At present, Operation Miracle has restored the sight of thousands of Bolivians, Panamanians, Peruvians, Nicaraguans and even a U.S. citizen.

At the beginning of this year, the new governments in Ecuador and Nicaragua announced their intention to join ALBA, bringing the number of nations that participate in this new form of relationship between peoples to five. This, despite the fact that ALBA has faced and faces problems derived from the incomprehension of other governments. ALBA has even been looked upon with contempt by powerful economic sectors that refuse to accept the changes occurring in the region.

What has been missing? Political will. The desire to pay off the old social debt that the Latin American oligarchies owe their people. However, other elements of change, such as the Southern Gas Pipeline, PetroCaribe, and the idea of a Bank of the South -- all proposed by Chávez -- have been welcomed because they suit the various governments' economic interests and future ambitions, especially those with a nationalist vision. It is part of the game that necessarily has to be played to achieve integration in Latin America.

But ALBA not only dreams. It advances. On Jan. 24, the governments of Venezuela and Cuba signed 16 accords of cooperation in areas such as steel manufacturing, telecommunications, agriculture and tourism, totaling about $1.854 billion. So far, both nations have entered into 12 joint ventures involving different sectors of the economy and services.

...How far will it be possible to go? It's hard to tell. Perhaps until the total emancipation of Latin America, a condition that is closely linked to the economic and political integration of its states. But now ALBA advances and the union of various peoples and governments of Latin America is strengthened, joining other, no less promising phenomena that lead to integration. Let us hope that nothing and nobody can stop that process.

http://www.progresoweekly.com/index.php?progreso=Eduardo_Dimas&otherweek=1170741600

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-07-07 12:43 AM
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11. Such good news on A.L.B.A. It's priceless learning about the pending plans to lay
underwater cable to Cuba. This is so important because it has been written publicly that Jorge Mas Canosa's company in Miami had actually intended to be the company which controlled this business when the U.S. took over Cuba. Ha ha ha ha.

I don't think I'm going to assume it's a done deal automatically, because there's no doubt at all they may expect someone to be interfering with the success of this all-important cable to keep it from being completed. However, if they are determined enough, they can probably make it posssible. Here's what is mentioned in your Progreso article
One of the accords envisions the creation of a Multidisciplinary Group for the study and start-up of an international system of telecommunications between the two countries. An underwater fiberoptic cable will be laid between La Guaira, state of Vargas, in Venezuela and the city of Siboney, in the province of Santiago de Cuba. The cable will have two additional linkage points for any countries in the Caribbean and Central America that wish to share the connection.
So much going on. The next few years are going to be the ones that matter. Sure hope they can realize their dreams.

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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:06 PM
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8. VIVA CHAVEZ
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 11:17 PM by ProudDad
Viva Bolivarian Revolution!!

Viva Socialismo!!!


On Edit:

God Damn Chavez is smart! I knew he was intelligent and well read but he's also probably the smartest leader in the whole freakin' world!!

I LOVE THIS!!!
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Vidar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 11:33 PM
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10. Responsible lending. What a concept. Viva Chavez!
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